YuriLowell
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The last two numbers used to designate engine sized but now with all those turbos its just a crap shoot.
The M designates a sports model.
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The last two numbers used to designate engine sized but now with all those turbos its just a crap shoot.
The M designates a sports model.
And then the second and third digit used to stand for displacement (e.g. 325i = 3 series with 2.5L engine). Now thanks to turbos and such, they just are used as some vague representation of power. The "i" at the end stands for fuel injection, which really just is used to distinguish gasoline based cars from diesel cars, which have a "d" at the end instead.
Yup!
And if you see an "x" designation after the number series, then that means all-wheel drive.
YuriLowell
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They flip flop between this and the x-DRIVE sillyness.
I swear its like BMW didn't learn anything from when GM went down.
chickdigger802
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so... BMW cars are like graphics cards lol.
What does the series number stand for? I know generally the higher the more expensive, anything else?
What does the series number stand for? I know generally the higher the more expensive, anything else?
I'm hoping someone could help me out, I have a mazda 3 2010 and I'm hearing some internal rattling when I go over rough roads. It sounds like it might be the speaker, but I want to be sure before trying to replace it. The speaker sounds ok when I pump the music, there might be a bit of distortion if there's too much bass. Note this is the speak on the driver side door, near the floor.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/351727/vibration.mp3 Starts around 8 seconds
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/351727/vibration.mp3 Starts around 8 seconds
David Incorporated Esq.
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Basically size of vehicle.
1 - Smallest
3 - Mid-size Sedan
4 - Mid-size Coupe
5 - Full-size Sedan
6 - Luxury Grand Touring Coupe
7 - Luxury Sedan (flagship model)
33-Hit-Combo
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Don't see why it would be your speakers if your audio is off? But it does sound like a dodgy connection.
I reckon it's more likely to be a heatshield resonating, or a cable.
chickdigger802
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so size, price. I was basically right. Cool thanks!
how about E's like E46?
how about E's like E46?
Internal generational platform designation used by BMW. It's a bit tricky.
For example: E30 refers to a late 80s early 90s 3-series platform. E36 refers to a mid to late 90s 3-series, while E46 refers to a early '00s to mid 00s 3-series. Sorta, kinda, depending on the region!
It's kinda a crapshoot.
Wikipedia has a decent breakdown:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bmw_3_series
YuriLowell
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Yup E was used to designate chassis codes.
Instead of going to triple digit E numbers, they started over using F numbers starting with the 7 series being the F01.
M used to designate different regular engines but once again they move away from that and use N to designate engines now.
S is used to designate special motors that the M division built.
M50 was the motor used in the e36 and e34 from 92 to 96.
S50 was the motor used in the e36 m3 in 1995.
If you want to get more technical after the designation bmw would include a B number to show displacement size as they could the same motor with different displacements.
For example the inline 6 used in the e30 in america came with two different M20 engines.
The M20B27 was used in the 325E and was a detuned version of the M20B25. They make the engine stroke much longer but the heads were so small that it killed any horsepower.
So to Recap
E&F are Chassis Codes.
M,N,S are Engine Codes.
B is used after M,N,S to show displacement size.
TU stands for technical update for an engine. For Example BMW had the M52b28TU where they added variable valve timing to the exhaust valves on early e46s and later e39s, before they came out with the revised M54.
I know way too much shit about BMW.
Instead of going to triple digit E numbers, they started over using F numbers starting with the 7 series being the F01.
M used to designate different regular engines but once again they move away from that and use N to designate engines now.
S is used to designate special motors that the M division built.
M50 was the motor used in the e36 and e34 from 92 to 96.
S50 was the motor used in the e36 m3 in 1995.
If you want to get more technical after the designation bmw would include a B number to show displacement size as they could the same motor with different displacements.
For example the inline 6 used in the e30 in america came with two different M20 engines.
The M20B27 was used in the 325E and was a detuned version of the M20B25. They make the engine stroke much longer but the heads were so small that it killed any horsepower.
So to Recap
E&F are Chassis Codes.
M,N,S are Engine Codes.
B is used after M,N,S to show displacement size.
TU stands for technical update for an engine. For Example BMW had the M52b28TU where they added variable valve timing to the exhaust valves on early e46s and later e39s, before they came out with the revised M54.
I know way too much shit about BMW.
Need help buying a car! I really want a GT-R, but it would have to be a 09/10 model since the prices skyrocket in the new makes and read stuff about maintenance/costs as a daily driver. Plus, insurance/monthly payments Any ideas?
-Has to be sports car
- 4 seats
- $20-35k. Can go higher if necessary
-Has to be sports car
- 4 seats
- $20-35k. Can go higher if necessary
YuriLowell
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How do you go from GT-R territory all the way down to potentially a used 350/370Z!? Shit doesn't compute.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Define sports car. Is it the looks or the power or the handling or the (dis)comfort?
Oh and two door or four door?
chickdigger802
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Genesis coupe seems to be popular these days, but reviews aren't kind.
That and 86 and... That's pretty much it. 370z is a 2 seater right?
My definition is rwd coupe that's not a muscle car lol.
That and 86 and... That's pretty much it. 370z is a 2 seater right?
My definition is rwd coupe that's not a muscle car lol.
MisterNoisy
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Genesis Coupe is fun, but flawed. The shifter is a bit ropey, the interior is a bit iffy (though the seats fucking rule) and the ride on Track/R-Spec models is pretty harsh. It's a ton of fun if you want to hang the tail out, though.
Looks really good. Similar dimensions as a3/cla45?
09-10 gtr aren't that cheap already are they?
I think it's all Xdrive from 2012 onwards or such...
chickdigger802
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are there actual sports cars with rear seats that can fit normal adult humans with feet?
Depends on your definition of a sports car.
Evo's will seat 4 just fine.
David Incorporated Esq.
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No they're not even close.
chickdigger802
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Can you even find a R34 for that kind of money?
PseudoKirby
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YuriLowell
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I see grey market R34s over here for around 30k from time to time.
But it could be taken from you at anytime so buyer beware.
BrokenEchelon
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Chris Harris spends some time with the Porsche 918 Spyder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mu_GezgxQ4o#
I hope Chris replaces Jezza after he retires from Top Gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mu_GezgxQ4o#
I hope Chris replaces Jezza after he retires from Top Gear.
chickdigger802
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how do plugin hybrids work? You need to fuel it up AND charge it up?
BrokenEchelon
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I think it depends on the system. Some hybrids use the ICE to power the batteries which power the car (like the Karma IIRC). Some hybrids can be plugged in to charge the batteries, but need to be fueled up to power the ICE for more intense/high speed driving like the Volt.
Let's be honest. If there's no Clarkson, Top Gear will cease.
I love Harris, but that would be one boring as hell Top Gear.
I'm pretty sure I met the Porsche guy doing the presentation. He was at Road Atlanta in 2007 when Porsche was still racing the RS Spyder in ALMS.
chickdigger802
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Sooo what are the actual pros of a plugin hybrid supercar?
I don't think the folks that can afford this are pinching pennies on gas (but rich people do like to be green based off beverly hills folks)
I don't think the folks that can afford this are pinching pennies on gas (but rich people do like to be green based off beverly hills folks)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but:
Extra horsepower for one. But mainly to create technology that trickles down to the more ordinary cars.
33-Hit-Combo
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And insta-torque!
Prestige. You can flaunt your money and still kinda look like a considerate person.
Trickle down effect, I suppose.
I'm not particularly impressed with the 918, tbh.
The real thing doesn't look nearly as good as the concept and the technology is superfluous. It would be a faster car if they removed that crap, so why have it there at all? It adds nothing.
Hey Reilo, these fell out of your pocket:
For once, Enron is not wrong.
Anti-lag is actually quite a bit cheaper
YuriLowell
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Lets not split hairs and all agree that the AC Cobra is one of the most badass cars ever designed.
chickdigger802
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Lets not split hairs and all agree that the AC Cobra is one of the most badass cars ever designed.
and OP in age of empires 2.
33-Hit-Combo
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Anti-lag is actually quite a bit cheaper
At the expense of reduced durability, noise, and the fact it doesn't increase torque?
It's a cool concept though.No ICE can match the immediacy of an electric motor.Anti-lag is actually quite a bit cheaper
My wife and I are planning on getting a CSUV/SUV later in the fall but I have already started researching so that the buying experience is easier. I was hoping to get GAFs input on some vehicles we are considering.
So far from reading reviews and just general preferences we have narrowed our list to the following:
-Cadillax SRX
-Ford Escape
-Hyundai Sante Fe
-Mazda CX5
-VW Tiguan
The main features we are looking for are:
-Fun to drive
-Safe
-Reliable
-Quality materials
The Cadillac is included on the list because I am able to get an employee discount through GM which brings the cost closer in line with the high end models of the other SUVs on my list. Not a big fan of the CRV, RAV4, Equinox and Forester which is why they are off my list.
Do you guys have any thoughts on the SUVs I listed? We plan on test driving them within the next month or two but it helps to have some feedback from people who drive these cars on a daily basis.
So far from reading reviews and just general preferences we have narrowed our list to the following:
-Cadillax SRX
-Ford Escape
-Hyundai Sante Fe
-Mazda CX5
-VW Tiguan
The main features we are looking for are:
-Fun to drive
-Safe
-Reliable
-Quality materials
The Cadillac is included on the list because I am able to get an employee discount through GM which brings the cost closer in line with the high end models of the other SUVs on my list. Not a big fan of the CRV, RAV4, Equinox and Forester which is why they are off my list.
Do you guys have any thoughts on the SUVs I listed? We plan on test driving them within the next month or two but it helps to have some feedback from people who drive these cars on a daily basis.
cx5 for logic, Cadillac for comfort and features.
Sorry not a big fan of Honda or Toyota. I like the idea of the Subaru and the reviews are great but I just can't get past the boring looks. If I am going to spend that kind of money I at least want to drive something that looks nice and is fun to drive.
My family all drives GM and have not had any problems with any of their vehicles and my last car was 08 WV Rabbit that ran beautifully. I know that is a small sample but that is my experience of the brands.
chickdigger802
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ford seems to be on the shitlist of consumer reports reliability these days, might wanna pass on the escape.
CX5 is probably the funnest to drive out of those.
If you are thinking cuv's would hot hatchbacks work too?
CX5 is probably the funnest to drive out of those.
If you are thinking cuv's would hot hatchbacks work too?
Ford is on Consumer Reports's shitlist because of MyFord Touch more than anything else.
What would you recommend?
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