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[AlphaSnake]

The Saturn Sky Redline and Solstice GXP were both pretty bad ass little things that had a great punch with tunable drivetrains.

They're extremely rare too and worth coin. I think only a few hundred of each car were ever made before both brands were axed.

 

[kehs]

Thanks for the input dudes, I still can't imagine a use for those engine braking modes though. heh. =/

Think the wife is going to pick up one of the 2014 Corollas next week. She has been driving her 98 Corolla for a decade now and it is time for her to finally get something new for her short commute.

It's a pretty nice car, almost bought a slightly used 2013 and had the sales dude pull out a 2014 for shits and giggles, and ended up with it.

 

[ascii42]

The Saturn Sky Redline and Solstice GXP were both pretty bad ass little things that had a great punch with tunable drivetrains.

They're extremely rare too and worth coin. I think only a few hundred of each car were ever made before both brands were axed.

No there were way more than that. According to this there were over 13000 Solstice GXPs and 12000 Sky Red Lines produced. The Solstice coupes, on the other hand, are quite rare.

 

[No Love]

No there were way more than that. According to this there were over 13000 Solstice GXPs and 12000 Sky Red Lines produced. The Solstice coupes, on the other hand, are quite rare.

It's the 2010 model year where there were only a handful made.

A few weeks ago I actually saw a Solstice coupe driving on the freeway in LA. I had to do a double take... never ever seen one before and couldn't believe my eyes. I wish I had taken a picture. I'll probably never see another one again, those are UBER rare.

 

[AlphaSnake]

No there were way more than that. According to this there were over 13000 Solstice GXPs and 12000 Sky Red Lines produced. The Solstice coupes, on the other hand, are quite rare.

Sorry, I meant the GXP coupe. But I always thought the Saturn Sky Redline was extremely rare regardless...that's interesting.

The other ultra rare Pontiac, of course, would be the G8 GXP.

 

[chickdigger802]

What can I say? She loves it.

try out a mazda 3 at the very least. or people here might jump off a bridge.



You know whats crazy though? I kinda wish the new IS front was styled more like the new corolla over what nonsense it currently got.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

What can I say? She loves it.

You seriously just need to have her drive some other cars, I can't think of a good reason to buy a modern Corolla over any of the other economy cars.

Thanks for the input dudes, I still can't imagine a use for those engine braking modes though. heh. =/

If you're going down a really long, steep-ish hill, you can engage the engine braking and won't have to use your actual brakes anywhere near as much. Riding the brakes down a long hill can cause them to heat up quite a bit, which will rob you of a lot of braking power.

 

[chickdigger802]

Was the corolla the first thing she tested?

I think you'd fall in love with just about any car if you drive a 98 corolla atm.


Heck a brz even feels fast compare to my prizm.

 

[Stinkles]

Seriously at least try a Mazda 3 so me and Reilo can sleep at night.

 

[xxracerxx]

We will go test drive the Mazda3 (I do like the look of the 5-door) next week but we have also been testing other cars and not just a Corolla, so don't fear folks.

 

[reilo]

We will go test drive the Mazda3 (I do like the look of the 5-door) next week but we have also been testing other cars and not just a Corolla, so don't fear folks.

Wait for the 2014 Mazda3, that way Stinkles and I can sleep at night.

http://mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=M3H

 

[AlphaSnake]

Every time somebody buys a Corolla, a bunny, kitten, and puppy are slaughtered somewhere in China.

Every time you buy a car that isn't as shitty as a Corolla, those 3 animals are saved and taken care of by a loving family.

 

[Stinkles]

Wait for the 2014 Mazda3, that way Stinkles and I can sleep at night.

http://mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=M3H

They're in dealerships now.

 

[Ty4on]

Googled the 2014 Corolla and wow... Wonder why the USDM Corolla looks so boring compared to the Auris (Corolla's new name in Europe, separate brand in Japan and basically the same car is sold with the Corolla badge in Australia). The Auris isn't even very pretty, but the Corolla just looks like a 90s compact with some somewhat modern design cues.

 

[chickdigger802]

Googled the 2014 Corolla and wow... Wonder why the USDM Corolla looks so boring compared to the Auris (Corolla's new name in Europe, separate brand in Japan and basically the same car is sold with the Corolla badge in Australia). The Auris isn't even very pretty, but the Corolla just looks like a 90s compact with some somewhat modern design cues.

its the best selling car. you can only do so much without scaring people off. That shot reminds me of some busted ass saturns friends had.



screw mazda 3.




get a speed3.


the torque steer gets all the ladies wet.

 

[No Love]

We will go test drive the Mazda3 (I do like the look of the 5-door) next week but we have also been testing other cars and not just a Corolla, so don't fear folks.

Go drive the Ford Focus hatch. Best small FWD car on the market IMO.

2014 Mazda3 might beat it, though. That's a beautiful car.

 

[mkenyon]

The interior on the Focus feels overly cheap, IMO.

 

[chickdigger802]

The interior on the Focus feels overly cheap, IMO.

they all feel cheap in that price range until til like... 30k+?

 

[Stinkles]

they all feel cheap in that price range until til like... 30k+?

Actually this is another area where the Mazda 3 shines.

And the Euro Civic is light years ahead of the shitbox we currently get in the US.

 

[chickdigger802]

Actually this is another area where the Mazda 3 shines.

And the Euro Civic is light years ahead of the shitbox we currently get in the US.

not too shabby.


you know, car interior is really the last thing on the list of stuff i care about. As long as shit is easily accessible with big distinct buttons that i can notice at a glance + a good dashboard, that's about all you need as the driver owner of a car.

 

[ascii42]

not too shabby.


you know, car interior is really the last thing on the list of stuff i care about. As long as shit is easily accessible with big distinct buttons that i can notice at a glance + a good dashboard, that's about all you need as the driver owner of a car.

Given that it's what you look at more, I think interior's more important than exterior in terms of looks. However, a decent inoffensive design is all that's really necessary. On non-luxury cars I'm not particularly concerned with material quality of things I don't touch, as long as it doesn't crack, rattle or squeak.

 

[TCRS]

Actually this is another area where the Mazda 3 shines.

And the Euro Civic is light years ahead of the shitbox we currently get in the US.

http://i.imgur.com/A6KfZ4r.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

That one has an ugly and cluttered interior though. The Mazda 3 has a much better interior. Even better: VW Golf.

 

[Smokey]

Every time somebody buys a Corolla, a bunny, kitten, and puppy are slaughtered somewhere in China.

Every time you buy a car that isn't as shitty as a Corolla, those 3 animals are saved and taken care of by a loving family.

My 04 corolla is a champ. A shitty champ but hey

 

[TCRS]

Googled the 2014 Corolla and wow... Wonder why the USDM Corolla looks so boring compared to the Auris (Corolla's new name in Europe, separate brand in Japan and basically the same car is sold with the Corolla badge in Australia). The Auris isn't even very pretty, but the Corolla just looks like a 90s compact with some somewhat modern design cues.

Toyota has actually brought the Corolla back to Europe, so now the Auris and Corolla are two seperate models in Toyotas european line up. The european Corolla still looks much nicer than the ugly ass US version though:

I sat in it at the Frankfurt Motor Show, I liked it.

 

[Ty4on]

Edit: ^^^^ My mistake, didn't see it in the Norwegian lineup. When the Auris was introduced it was only the hatchback while the sedan was called Corolla and I thought they had scratched the name for good. Wagons sell like hot cakes here because of their cargo capacity so I'm guessing the sedan isn't imported here.

That one has an ugly and cluttered interior though. The Mazda 3 has a much better interior. Even better: VW Golf.

My God, what a cluttered interior

Spoiler

Nav screens is fugly though

Golfs have always had a boring interior, but the seven looks very nice and E39-like.

My 04 corolla is a champ. A shitty champ but hey

That's why Lexus should start making proper looking cars on the outside as well. Toyota quality that looks and (sometimes) handles pretty well.

 

[TCRS]

Well, the materials and buttons felt very cheap and look at the shapes and lines, it was very cramped! The centre console is raised and narrow and look at that.. I don't even know.. that bar on the left extending into the door and sort of hiding the buttons below it. And that in an already narrow car. Nah, I didn't like it.

The new Golf has a brilliant interior. Everything felt and looked nice and it was spacious.

Edit: ^^^^ My mistake, didn't see it in the Norwegian lineup. When the Auris was introduced it was only the hatchback while the sedan was called Corolla and I thought they had scratched the name for good. Wagons sell like hot cakes here because of their cargo capacity so I'm guessing the sedan isn't imported here.

It's not on the German website either, they've announced it for 2014. You guys might still get it And yeah they rebranded the Corolla to Auris for some reason, but now we've got both.

 

[whatsinaname]

Talking about interiors, I felt the ST's was a bit too busy when I test drove it.

 

[chickdigger802]

Talking about interiors, I felt the ST's was a bit too busy when I test drove it.

i remember laughing at the boost gauge. it's a freaking sticker in there. like buzz lightyear.

 

[AlphaSnake]

The rental Focus I had 2 months ago was horrific inside and out.

 

[YuriLowell]

The rental Focus I had 2 months ago was horrific inside and out.

I concur.
Scared me off from even thinking about a Focus ST.

 

[chickdigger802]

and don't get me started on ford sync or w/e its called now.

why is it so terrible?

It crashed at the demo station at the autoshow here and the guy didn't look surprised at all.

 

[Ty4on]

The new Golf has a brilliant interior. Everything felt and looked nice and it was spacious.

Why didn't I see this before? Plastics look better on the golf, but the design is really similar to the 2000-2009 (?) S60.

It's the first car I drove alone as I moved it for my driving instructor right after passing the test. I sadly never spent much time checking out much of the interior because I had to do other stuff and I mostly drove an XC60. Only buttons I touched in that short drive were for cruise control because I had never tried it before, but I turned off the minute I felt the car accelerate by itself in city traffic

Interior is really important for me for whatever reason. Cars are sort of like homes to me and I really like long car rides I guess.

and don't get me started on ford sync or w/e its called now.

why is it so terrible?

It crashed at the demo station at the autoshow here and the guy didn't look surprised at all.

Car makers... Jaguar and Land Rover's systems probably wouldn't have looked out of place on a 2000 model :/

 

[TylerD]

Greetings from West Texas autoGAF! I have probably driven about 40 miles in 2 weeks.

This area is so convenient for walking. A coworker has already offered up his garagedriveway if I need it to work on my car so that concern has been put to rest.

I got much more of a rise watching that i8 video than the "The Ferraris" running around the track. That i8 looks sick.

 

[reilo]

Wait, what the fuck? Texas has areas convenient for walking?!

 

[TylerD]

Wait, what the fuck? Texas has areas convenient for walking?!

My apartment is a 3 min walk from my office. I have a grocery store, super Target, and gym within half a mile. A couple of restaurants too. I have been driving a little bit but haven't had to much.

 

[reilo]

My apartment is a 3 min walk from my office. I have a grocery store, super Target, and gym within half a mile. A couple of restaurants too. I have been driving a little bit but haven't had to much.

Have you ever pooped yourself whenever you teleport to your city of work?

 

[N-Bomb]

Sounds like something a Pontiac PR stooge would've said back when the Solstice was released :lol

The Solstice still LOOKS like it should be good. And that Saturn thing too.

I actually saw one in the middle of downtown Amsterdam. Pontiac never sold outside of North Am, did it? Was neat to see one, anyway.

Artega actually sold some cars?

Yup! Production was limited to under 500 a year, so less than 2000 for sure. Beautiful car. Gorgeous.

 

[TCRS]

Another thing I noticed on the motor show is that almost every car has a chunky steering wheel now. Even the small Clio had a thick steering wheel. The only exception was the VW Polo.

 

[reilo]

Another thing I noticed on the motor show is that almost every car has a chunky steering wheel now. Even the small Clio had a thick steering wheel. The only exception was the VW Polo.

Which is why I'm buying this...

 

[No Love]

Which is why I'm buying this...

I used to have one of those. A mint Mtech 2 steering wheel. Sold it for $250 lol. I also had a mint Mtech 1 steering wheel I got at a junkyard for $30. Gave it to a friend as a present.

 

[N-Bomb]

Which is why I'm buying this...

Now that's a nice wheel. Similar to mine.

 

[whatsinaname]

Isn't coupe==2-door? What does the label 4-door coupe indicate?

 

[AlphaSnake]

So I have some fun yesterday with two friends of mine...one has a RWD 335i 6MT and the other a 2012 S4 7-DCT. The 335i was stock, but the S4 was stage 2 - GIAC tune, DSG tune, AWE exhaust, and APR intake.

The car I used? The Jaguar.

Absolutely demolished the BMW, which didn't surprise me much.

What did surprise me was putting a car length on a pretty modded B8 S4. I was expecting to get walked, turns out...I was wrong.

No replacement for displacement.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Isn't coupe==2-door? What does the label 4-door coupe indicate?

It has come to signify body styling instead of door count.

 

[YuriLowell]

M3 started leaking coolant again.
I no longer consider the aluminum thermostat housings to be an upgrade.

 

[ascii42]

It has come to signify body styling instead of door count.

Officially, I believe a coupe has less than 33 cubic feet of rear passenger volume (if any). A sedan has more than that. As such, along with 4 door coupes, there is such a thing as 2 door sedans (The Chevy Monte Carlo is a good example).

 

[N-Bomb]

Officially, I believe a coupe has less than 33 cubic feet of rear passenger volume (if any). A sedan has more than that. As such, along with 4 door coupes, there is such a thing as 2 door sedans (The Chevy Monte Carlo is a good example).

Marketing people ruin everything.

Case in point:

If you have to explain your brand's naming scheme, you blew it.

 

[chickdigger802]

don't name your cars like graphics cards please.

 

[whatsinaname]

It has come to signify body styling instead of door count.

Officially, I believe a coupe has less than 33 cubic feet of rear passenger volume (if any). A sedan has more than that. As such, along with 4 door coupes, there is such a thing as 2 door sedans (The Chevy Monte Carlo is a good example).

So it is more a dimensions thing. A bit weird though. They should just called it a compact sedan or something like that.

 

[chickdigger802]

watching fast 6.... so weird how the series started from a tuner thingy and now we have Walker drive a stock R35 now.




I assume GT-R doesn't come with a manual right? Or just silly movie shifting?