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Hey all I just put my Volvo up for sale on craigslist and the ad I made was a little goofy. Can I get some opinions on if it's too much silliness?

http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/4217681213.html

Nice! I'd buy it if I was on the hunt for another car.

What shops did you try over here? A lot of the shops over here are fncking terrible IMO. There's only two shops that I take my car... Hiley on 20 and Collins for the general maintenance and Track Dog Racing over at North Dallas for the custom stuff. I haven't used TDR's services yet but they're one of the nationally recognized Miata specialists, a lot of the Miata's you see on DFW go through them unless the owners did all the work themselves lol.
 
Black Friday done right. Spent the day in the race group at Infenion Raceway/Sears Point. First time on the track with sportcups on their 3rd day. They're officially done and about to cord.

I'm done with trackdays until spring through. Cold + race tires are an absolute nightmare.

Lots of Mclaren's out there and all fun to chase down. Couldn't keep up with the following cars: 1 458 challenge, 2 race prepped M3's, 1 Radical type car.

Can't wait to hit up Sears Point with a fresh set on a warm spring day. See what sort of laptime I can put down then.

http://gotbluemilk.com/web131129/46/imagepages/image41.html

Good incident free day. I now need to replace pads again so off season means, new brake pads and full fluid flush, new tires, alignment and camber kit so it can hold aggressive alignment settings.

LOVE LOVE LOVE the Z06/Z07 for track duty. Still bone stock.
 
Looks like a perfectly reasonable ad to me.

Tell that to all nobody that have contacted me about the car. =/

I have to sell the car pretty soon because I'm moving cross country in a few weeks and need a larger vehicle that can tow 5000lb+, so this kind of sucks. I'm thinking I may take a hit on sale and just trade it in (even though dealers really don't want a manual car).

Edit: It doesn't help that searching for "S40" on the DFW craigslist gets you this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/search...ng=&minAsk=&maxAsk=&autoMinYear=&autoMaxYear=
 
Tell that to all nobody that have contacted me about the car. =/

I have to sell the car pretty soon because I'm moving cross country in a few weeks and need a larger vehicle that can tow 5000lb+, so this kind of sucks. I'm thinking I may take a hit on sale and just trade it in (even though dealers really don't want a manual car).

Edit: It doesn't help that searching for "S40" on the DFW craigslist gets you this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/search...ng=&minAsk=&maxAsk=&autoMinYear=&autoMaxYear=

Have you tried getting an appraisal from carmax? You can get that and keep that as your last option.
 
Tell that to all nobody that have contacted me about the car. =/

I have to sell the car pretty soon because I'm moving cross country in a few weeks and need a larger vehicle that can tow 5000lb+, so this kind of sucks. I'm thinking I may take a hit on sale and just trade it in (even though dealers really don't want a manual car).

Edit: It doesn't help that searching for "S40" on the DFW craigslist gets you this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/search...ng=&minAsk=&maxAsk=&autoMinYear=&autoMaxYear=

That....that's a lot of Volvos...

Do you actually want $7500 for it? Aside from embellishing the ad even more I don't know what else could differentiate it from the pack.
 
That....that's a lot of Volvos...

Do you actually want $7500 for it? Aside from embellishing the ad even more I don't know what else could differentiate it from the pack.

No I'd expect between $6500-$7000 (about blue book for a private sale). I may lower the price some to get attention but in that field of cars I don't know what good it'd do. There are a couple of other T5s being sold by dealers for more, so there's that.

I also have it up on cars.com which has a lot less noise since you can't repost the same ad ten times a day. Hopefully that helps.

I may tag it for luxury, bmw, audi, mercedes so it catches the attention of people who might not think "Volvo" when considering luxury. It's just such an oddball car to sell.

If nothing else I'll run it into a brick mailbox and write it off (okay no, but I'm totally hoping a drunk person smashes into it at night some time).
 

robox

Member
Tell that to all nobody that have contacted me about the car. =/

I have to sell the car pretty soon because I'm moving cross country in a few weeks and need a larger vehicle that can tow 5000lb+, so this kind of sucks. I'm thinking I may take a hit on sale and just trade it in (even though dealers really don't want a manual car).

Edit: It doesn't help that searching for "S40" on the DFW craigslist gets you this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/search...ng=&minAsk=&maxAsk=&autoMinYear=&autoMaxYear=

put turbo and manual in the title?
i think you're gonna need more info in the title to attract the click-through
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
2015 Mustang leaked officially.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/03/2015-ford-mustang-photos-leaked/

The interior IS as bland as we all thought it would be. Hahaha amazing.

I hate the fog-lights and amber lights in the lower-valence of the front bumper. Looks awful, I'd much rather have functional ducts there. The protruding nose also makes it look like a Ford Fusion coupe.

The rear end is basically a carry over aesthetically despite not sharing any parts or spec with the current car. Major blandness.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
2015 Mustang leaked officially.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/03/2015-ford-mustang-photos-leaked/

The interior IS as bland as we all thought it would be. Hahaha amazing.

I hate the fog-lights and amber lights in the lower-valence of the front bumper. Looks awful, I'd much rather have functional ducts there. The protruding nose also makes it look like a Ford Fusion coupe.

The rear end is basically a carry over aesthetically despite not sharing any parts or spec with the current car. Major blandness.

It looks like a refresh rather than a whole new car. That interior is LOL.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
I predict that like the Honda Civic, sales of the new Mustang will tank harder that Lady Gaga's latest album and force Ford to initiate an emergency redesign.

That thing is worse than I feared.
 
Yeah, that new Mustang ain't special. They should've aped the design on that Ford Evos concept a while back.

ford-evos-concept-11.jpg

Man, I'd trade in my Miata in a heartbeat for an Evos looking Mustang.
 

ascii42

Member
Is there any headroom at all in the back? Looks like the rear glass is directly above where the headrests probably are. (Not that anyone would ever want to be back there anyway)
 
2015 Mustang leaked officially.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/03/2015-ford-mustang-photos-leaked/

The interior IS as bland as we all thought it would be. Hahaha amazing.

I hate the fog-lights and amber lights in the lower-valence of the front bumper. Looks awful, I'd much rather have functional ducts there. The protruding nose also makes it look like a Ford Fusion coupe.

The rear end is basically a carry over aesthetically despite not sharing any parts or spec with the current car. Major blandness.

I think they almost went backwards a generation...

From Evos to that thing. Ugh.
 
Looks good to me.

Undeniably "Mustang" and yet still carries a lot of familiarity to their current design language.

Kind of looks like Bullet Bill from Mario.

Bullet_Bill_Mario.jpg
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
What is with designers and ugly looking front valence/bumper dams filled with all sorts of lighting? The Infiniti Q50 has it. The new WRX has it. This ugly Mustang has it. I feel like a lot of these new cars have the same looking lower bumper designs...whatever happened to just a regular fog light or a traditional air dam instead? Why so convoluted and ugly?
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
What is with designers and ugly looking front valence/bumper dams filled with all sorts of lighting? The Infiniti Q50 has it. The new WRX has it. This ugly Mustang has it. I feel like a lot of these new cars have the same looking lower bumper designs...

It's the M-style lower valance. Only BMW seems to be doing it right after all these years:

2013-BMW-M6-Convertible-front-three-quarters-top-down.jpg

bmw-m4-concept-unveiling.jpg

2014-bmw-m5_100427875_l.jpg
 
What is with designers and ugly looking front valence/bumper dams filled with all sorts of lighting? The Infiniti Q50 has it. The new WRX has it. This ugly Mustang has it. I feel like a lot of these new cars have the same looking lower bumper designs...whatever happened to just a regular fog light or a traditional air dam instead? Why so convoluted and ugly?

Maybe the pedestrian safety requirements are narrowing the options designers have?
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
It's the M-style lower valance. Only BMW seems to be doing it right after all these years:

2013-BMW-M6-Convertible-front-three-quarters-top-down.jpg

bmw-m4-concept-unveiling.jpg

2014-bmw-m5_100427875_l.jpg

Yeah. BMW isn't tacking on a bunch of shit into a place they don't belong. Even the non-M cars have these really clean LEDs instead, as opposed to two or three different light housings.

Clusterfuck city.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
I think it's a big improvement. It's no F-Type coupe but it looks pretty good.
Get your eyes checked. That abomination looks like a Scion FR-S with gigantism and traditional Mustang taillights in the back.

Ball's in your court, GM and Chrysler, it can't get any worse than this.
 

ShowDog

Member
The new Mustang still looks too big and tall to me. If a late model Camaro doesn't appeal to you, I'm not sure how the new Mustang would ever change your mind. I don't think it's ugly but it's really more of an evolution of the prior model than the all new car I was expecting.
 

ascii42

Member
Fuck yeah! C7 Z06 announced.

Time to smoke the next gen of P and F cars.

I wonder what sort of engine they've got planned for it. I've heard rumors of a forced induction engine, but I think it'd be cooler if they have a new N/A 7L V8 and save forced induction for the C7 ZR1. Not that I can afford either...
 
The new Mustang still looks too big and tall to me. If a late model Camaro doesn't appeal to you, I'm not sure how the new Mustang would ever change your mind. I don't think it's ugly but it's really more of an evolution of the prior model than the all new car I was expecting.

I was *really* expecting more of a revolution than a refinement. This isn't either; they just slanted a bunch of angles at different degrees.
 
I wonder what sort of engine they've got planned for it. I've heard rumors of a forced induction engine, but I think it'd be cooler if they have a new N/A 7L V8 and save forced induction for the C7 ZR1. Not that I can afford either...

Not sure. I'm more concerned with handling, weight and braking.

I hope on top of the Z06, there is a track oriented package like my current Z07.
 

A6M3

Banned
is anyone kinda mad BMW got rid of M3 coupe's and replaced it with M4, dont get me wrong I might get the M4 but wth. I dont want a M3 sedan...
 

ascii42

Member
Not sure. I'm more concerned with handling, weight and braking.

I hope on top of the Z06, there is a track oriented package like my current Z07.

The Z07 package was mostly stuff from the ZR1, right? If that's the case I wouldn't expect to see the Z07 package until probably a year or so after the ZR1 comes out.
 

bcl0328

Member
is anyone kinda mad BMW got rid of M3 coupe's and replaced it with M4, dont get me wrong I might get the M4 but wth. I dont want a M3 sedan...

it's just a name imo... they could call it anything and i'd still want it.


i know some people care about the M3 legacy and its name has so much history, but it just doesn't bother me. there is still an M3, it's just 4-door only now.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
The new Mustang still looks too big and tall to me. If a late model Camaro doesn't appeal to you, I'm not sure how the new Mustang would ever change your mind. I don't think it's ugly but it's really more of an evolution of the prior model than the all new car I was expecting.
The Camaro looks much bigger. I still don't like how tall the front end is, but otherwise the mustang is a decent looking car. That last front 3/4th shot actually looks very good.

I was expecting more of a redesign though, at least for the interior
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
The new Mustang convertible looks better than the coupe, but not by much.

The coupe may look better in person, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
That interior looks like it's a mess of cheap plastic. And first drives of the car are already confirming what I assumed from the pictures alone. That transmission tunnel cover is a gigantic slab of generic plastic I've seen in 1990s Pontiacs. The airvent surrounds look like a horrible faux-brushed aluminum plastic.

Apparently the doors are wrapped in plastic too, as opposed to soft cloth or soft touch materials.

Edit: Oh and that steering wheel? How in the fuck is that appropriate for a sports car? I thought the Camaro's wheel was horrific...this is equally bad.
 

GungHo

Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
13-2015-ford-mustang-1.jpg

14-2015-ford-mustang-1.jpg


Oh Ford, I'm convinced you make the worst looking interiors.

Pedestrian in every sense of the word.

It's not the interior I'm worried about...

Okay, Ford, the convertible is better.

original.jpg
For this one, though, I'm really digging the straight belt-line. That's classic Ford. That's what they need to be doing. Unless they just want it to be the Fusion Coupe.
 
Look on the bright side y'all, at least they're pimping out the fact that the Moostang still has a manual tranny.

Every 'stang I've seen has an autotragic these days. Even the badass looking dudes use an autotragic! The only 'stang I've seen that has a manual tranny was a Shelby GT500 but of course, the owners had no choice as an AT isn't an option.
 
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