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David Incorporated Esq.
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Jamesfrom818 said:
I'll hold out hope for this, but I very much doubt that they'll actually do it.
Also, I'm used to people putting LS-series engines in little cars, wtf is Chevy doing putting a little engine in a Corvette? A high revving V8 is going to sound so completely out of place in a Corvette, so very confused.
ClassyPenguin
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I approve of a 10,000RPM redline corvette.
Next step is improving the interior.
They are also going to make a ton of money if they sell that as a crate engine.
Next step is improving the interior.
They are also going to make a ton of money if they sell that as a crate engine.
twinturbo2
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NASCAR V8's can frequently go up to 9,000 RPMs, just throwing that out. I wonder what GM's going to do to get a 10K RPM redline without a shower of smoke coming out of the engine bay.
Spaceman Spiff
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A small-displacement, high-revving turbo V8 would certainly be an interesting new direction, but regardless of the engine they put in it, the next Corvette is going to be epic.
The C5 got the ball rolling, but the C6 Z06 and ZR1 really took the fight to the best of the Europeans, on both the street and track. I admire the hell out of them, and expect great things from the C7.
I'm sure GM has said that interior design and materials will be a priority with the C7. It's one of the few areas Corvettes have always been deficient relative to the competition.
The C5 got the ball rolling, but the C6 Z06 and ZR1 really took the fight to the best of the Europeans, on both the street and track. I admire the hell out of them, and expect great things from the C7.
doitlive said:
I'm sure GM has said that interior design and materials will be a priority with the C7. It's one of the few areas Corvettes have always been deficient relative to the competition.
opticalmace
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Sounds good but I doubt it'll have a 10k redline. Maybe 8200.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Forced induction is the future. I can see that naturally aspirated cars are pretty much on the way out, particularly in performance cars.bah321 said:
It doesn't get any bigger than the 427 they'd got in the Z06 now. Just get it now, I suppose. I can't wait until the Z06 is cheap enough I can afford one. That's pretty much my dream car, even if I'm content knowing I'll never really afford it.
akachan ningen
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sounds like wishful thinking to me. they're still in the planning stages, so this is all up in the air. I think that they'll end up using whatever engine is more cost-effective and a 10k rpm engine is not it.
Dreams-Visions
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Interior should have been job #1. But I'm not mad at all. I wonder how long before the new engine get into the CTS-V's...doitlive said:
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sounds like bullshit to me.akachan ningen said:
The appeal of the Corvette is in its price tag. That kind of engine makes your car cost $70,000.00, which isn't why anyone buys Corvettes.
surrealist
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Spaceman Spiff said:
Would have been the perfect engine for the Pontiac Solstice.
akachan ningen
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If they really wanted to go after new buyers with the new corvette, they'd offer a version with a weaker engine, like 300hp, for around $35K.
BoobPhysics101
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AlexMogil said:Y'all asked if I would post some pics after I got my 2011, so here they are. Sorry they are a little late. I put a few more in the show off your car thread.
The car is so much fun.
Wow, that looks great! Congrats.
Now get a tune so you can get rid of the weaksauce straightline performance.
bigboss370
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man i wish there was a cheaper version with same looks
BoobPhysics101
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AlexMogil said:
Just get a premade Stage 1 tune from ProTune or COBB.
akachan ningen
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bigboss370 said:
bigboss370
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akachan ningen said:
na there's no way i need/could go ~400 km/h lol, don't need that power, but i love how the car looks. the interior could use a little tweaking but other than that the thing is one sexy beast
BoobPhysics101
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AlexMogil said:
Don't even worry about it, Subie is really good about honoring their warranties and they know people that buy STi's are going to do modifications to them. It's not like BMW where you have to sneak a reflash before you (inevitably) take the car to the dealer for maintenance because the shitty fuel pump blew.
akachan ningen
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don't bother modifying unless you're already pushing the car to the limit and you feel like it needs to be faster.AlexMogil said:
33-Hit-Combo
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akachan ningen said:
There's a difference between maxing it everywhere and then driving around comfortably with more power though. I do however think you should discuss the terms of the warranty first if customer service is anything like the UK.
twinturbo2
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Koeingsegg?akachan ningen said:
Cobb knows their shit. Find out if you have a certified Cobb tuner in your area:AlexMogil said:
http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=5100
And go to them. They're #1 as far as Subarus go.
Worst case, call up Cobb and they will recommend someone near you.
Spaceman Spiff
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Fit-Age: I'll be taking delivery of a 2011 Sport tomorrow.
After the break-in period, it's going to be all VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!
After the break-in period, it's going to be all VTEC JUST KICKED IN YO!
Went with the Fit over a Malibu Hybrid just so I could say that.
BoobPhysics101
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Angry Grimace said:
S2000 was a $40k sports car with a 9k RPM redline. Shitty RX-8 was like $30k with a horrible rotary engine, but it did 9k RPM too.
They said approaching 10k RPM: this likely means 8-9k RPM. It's not that hard to do with proper engine design, and turbocharging it isn't out of the question either; tons of turbo and supercharged S2000's running around with stock internals and no problems even though the engine wasn't designed with boost in mind.
Whatever Chevy does with the C7, it should be spectacular.
Spaceman Spiff said:
Fit doesn't have actual VTEC, it has a form of VTEC-E much like the R18 engines in the Civic or the half-VTEC in the K20A3. It doesn't have high lobe high RPM power like real VTEC.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you won't actually feel hardly anything with the kind of crossover the Fit's VTEC has.
P.S. Funny irony about VTEC 'kicking in': in the Honda tuning world, it's common knowledge among non-retards that the VTEC kick actually means that VTEC is set too high, and you're not making as much power as you could if it were set correctly. Honda was conservative with where they set the VTEC crossover, it could've been at least 1-2k lower on every engine with real VTEC.
Lowering VTEC can widen the powerband and pick up anywhere from 15-40 whp depending on mods/tune.
bodyboarder
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bigboss370 said:na there's no way i need/could go ~400 km/h lol, don't need that power, but i love how the car looks. the interior could use a little tweaking but other than that the thing is one sexy beast
pfft you can never have too much power.
BoobPhysics101
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bodyboarder said:
If you're one of those poor souls in a front wheel drive car, you definitely can. 'oh shit no traction'
David Incorporated Esq.
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There's definitely a point as you raise the horsepower where driving the car becomes more about reigning the power in and keeping it in check than it is about driving and enjoying the car.bodyboarder said:
Old saying but still true, better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
Jamesfrom818
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This hatch looks like hot sex...well, the rims could be simpler. They look like turbines off a jet engine.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/31/audi-unveils-500hp-a1-clubsport-quattro-show-car-at-worthersee/
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/31/audi-unveils-500hp-a1-clubsport-quattro-show-car-at-worthersee/
Jamesfrom818
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ascii42 said:Wow, rims are something, alright.
Interior is interesting, conceptually. Looks like individual buttons for turn signals, as well as a button for high-beams. Doesn't appear to be a space for a radio though.
The mock up is using racing harnesses instead of regular seat belts. I doubt they designed this with everyday driving in mind. Looks like there are cup holders though...
MWS Natural
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Giant Robot
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MWS Natural said:
hahaah, funny.
But i'll be the asshole and say that they missed the apex by a lot
foodtaster
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So I have the opportunity to get a 1998 Ford Contour Sedan for $1500.. it has 138k on it. Should I? I really need a car... and if not, any other recommendations for less than $4000?
foodtaster
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SePhoBroth
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You're clueless.BoobPhysics101 said:
BoobPhysics101
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SePhoBroth said:
Really? Before you fuck off, how about you read this:
http://www.hondata.com/tech_vtec_crossover.html
For modded cars, stock VTEC engagement point is NOT optimized without dyno tuning and setting a better crossover plus managing AFR to eliminate power dips and fluctations. If the transition isn't smooth and is abrupt (which stock VTEC crossover is), you're not making as much power as you could. Period.
Lord Error
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I love how apparently in the tuner world 'VTEC' is referred to that 'kick in' moment (lol, some kick that is...) and not for what the vtec as an abbreviation actually stands for, which is just Honda's flavor of valve timing system.
BoobPhysics101
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Lord Error said:
It's just a stupid Honda 'culture' thing. Some Honda guys would be really surprised if you were to tell them BMW's and Toyota's have 'VTEC' too in the form of VANOS and VVTI. It's a great concept, but way overhyped and is the butt of many jokes.
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