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The Black Culture Thread |OT16| - I'm blacker than you'll ever be

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LionPride

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Sch1sm said:
Oh, okay. That I get, lol. Thought it might be something more that maybe I've missed out on, but yeah. Loads of stuff will go lost on someone who can't relate. And they can try to sympathize, or empathize, but they're not going to truly understand. Carry on, we're on the same page. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I'm extremely happy with my girlfriend, but there are times I'm a bit upset she won't and can't understand how I feel about race shit. Tis life
 
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MikeBreezy92 said:
Basically the story of this year to me was that white people are even more willing to throw anybody under the bus even people they claim to care about. I saw too many instances of interracial couples being broken up because of the past election, seen race specific abuse, fetishization etc etc.

I always thought it was silly how people were so concerned about black men/women dating outside of the their race, more specifically white people but after this year, I can definitely see why. Understanding is already a major corner stone of relationships in the first place and adding the big ass subject of race in that just adds to the mountain of complications. I feel that white people will have a harder time in that aspect and can be borderline if not completely apathetic to most issues POC face. That's my personal concern and I can see why other black folks feel that way. They may be more ignorant about it, but there is something to idea that staying with your own or at least within the realm of POC. I mean not to say that they won't treat you wrong either. Its a nuanced subject foreal.
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I believe it's up to those in interracial relationships to enlighten. Whether its black man/white woman, or a white man and black woman. Its up to POC who finds someone they're attracted to and want to date that happens to be outside of their race to educate them, and I don't mean the responsibility sits solely on POC at all. I agree with you, that some relationships are dubious, I've seen some. I absolutely hate the idea of being in an interracial relationship just because "mixed babies are cute." Its a bullshit conjecture and I witnessed a homegirl of mine get trapped for that specific reasoning, but you can't save somebody that don't want to be saved.

Interracial relationships ain't as cut and dry as people try to make them out to be. They'll always be on public display, they will always be judged. But it's up to those individuals, specifically POC to not be apprehensive to confront the elephant in the room. To not be afraid to address white privilege or any other type of privilege their partner posses over themselves. Its also up to those whom hold the privilege to be assenting to absorb and empathize with their partner of color. I feel like people who fetishize color and interracial dating have absolute red flags that can be checked.

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there is something to idea that staying with your own or at least within the realm of POC. I mean not to say that they won't treat you wrong either.
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Because its home, because it's comfortable, because your own will know your struggle more than any other race ever will, true. But its work, just like any other relationship, its work, and those whom aren't willing to put in the time are frauds, like you said this year took the wool from our eyes and let it be known there are very few allies willing to be empathetic to POC and nonBlackPOC struggles.
 
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LionPride said:
I'm extremely happy with my girlfriend, but there are times I'm a bit upset she won't and can't understand how I feel about race shit. Tis life
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Your girl is white?

My girl is Hispanic but could pass for White but she understands my concerns as a Black man and she really cares about all minority issues.

It's her extended family that seems more slow in understanding race, despite being darker Hispanics.

In college I met some Black female students that were born into very wealthy family. I did not feel like we were the same Black though. They did not have the same concerns as other Black students and it was questioned if they saw themselves as Black or just another person.
 
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LionPride

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Darryl M R said:
Your girl is white?

My girl is Hispanic but could pass for White but she understands my concerns as a Black man and she really cares about all minority issues.

It's her extended family that seems more slow in understanding race, despite being darker Hispanics.

In college I met some Black female students that were born into very wealthy family. I did not feel like we were the same Black though. They did not have the same concerns as other Black students and it was questioned if they saw themselves as Black or just another person.
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Yeah she white, and she has been my friend for years before we got together so she kinda understands a lot of my concerns. She cares, but she doesn't get it all the way. Like shes bi so she being LGBTQ hates seeing injustice of any type. She knows I'm likely to send her a rant anytime some shit pops off. She lets me say I fucking hate white people sometimes knowing it's just anger.

But she won't fully know how it feels to be followed in stores by security guards, why I hate how the film and theatre industry treats us, and so much stuff that she tries to understand.

With rich black people, I know one who was "Be at the same parties as the Obamas" rich and she got black issues and shit. She's the only rich black person I know.
 
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Prototype Viktor

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Slayven

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Darryl M R said:
Your girl is white?

My girl is Hispanic but could pass for White but she understands my concerns as a Black man and she really cares about all minority issues.

It's her extended family that seems more slow in understanding race, despite being darker Hispanics.

In college I met some Black female students that were born into very wealthy family. I did not feel like we were the same Black though. They did not have the same concerns as other Black students and it was questioned if they saw themselves as Black or just another person.
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Your girl got a sister?
 
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LotusHD

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MikeBreezy92 said:
Basically the story of this year to me was that white people are even more willing to throw anybody under the bus even people they claim to care about. I saw too many instances of interracial couples being broken up because of the past election, seen race specific abuse, fetishization etc etc.

I always thought it was silly how people were so concerned about black men/women dating outside of the their race, more specifically white people but after this year, I can definitely see why. Understanding is already a major corner stone of relationships in the first place and adding the big ass subject of race in that just adds to the mountain of complications. I feel that white people will have a harder time in that aspect and can be borderline if not completely apathetic to most issues POC face. That's my personal concern and I can see why other black folks feel that way. They may be more ignorant about it, but there is something to idea that staying with your own or at least within the realm of POC. I mean not to say that they won't treat you wrong either. Its a nuanced subject foreal.
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This reminded me of this one blog post I came across months ago: https://loveinshallah.com/2015/09/02/not-dating-white-men/

On first glance, the title gave me major pause, because I've always considered it to be abhorrent to ever say you outright wouldn't date a specific race. After all, all the past examples of white people saying they wouldn't date black men and women, it'd be hypocritical to do the same to them. So I read it, with a bit of the assumption that she might say some things I'd strongly disagree with. But as I continued, I'm like damn, I can really relate to this, as some of the things she wrote were stuff I've always wanted to articulate, but struggled to do so due to fear of accidentally pissing someone off, appearing prejudiced, etc.

Where it's like, for me personally, there's this inherent apprehension or unwillingness of seriously considering the prospect of dating a white woman, due to the "fear" of having to deal with what I could only sum up as worrying about "them not being woke enough". Like I'm still attracted to anyone regardless of their skin color, but I find it very difficult to picture myself actually being in a relationship. Because in my mind, I wonder if they'd acknowledge the existence of white privilege. If they feel that Black Lives Matter is problematic, or even worse. Where they might be cool now, but what happens the first time the topic of race gets brought up? Where I wonder if they'll acknowledge the microaggressions you've faced or will face, or what it means to have that ever-skeptical eye placed on you due to the color of your skin. And now recently, if they're a Trump supporter, along with other things that I feel that many black people could likely relate to. These are things that have occasionally crept up in the deepest crevices of my mind when I interact with white people, all culminating to the driving thought of "Do you truly care about black lives?" and said thoughts have only amplified both during and after the election. And then of course, there's the whole insecurity of worrying about other what other people think, because apparently a lot of people got strong opinions concerning interracial dating, but that's a tangent I don't want to go on.

Now of course, some of these things can be more or less vetted before you actually go and try to date someone. Neither would I back down from an obvious opportunity to educate someone on these subjects, or at least share my own experiences. But I've seen and read about numerous relationships where that sort of stuff just arises at a much later point. Some make peace with it. Some dump their S/Os. Others dump them, and go on to swear off X people forever.

At any rate, I think it certainly adds some nuance to why I've seen so many black people seem to frown or at least give side-eye to interracial dating (Though some people just spit on said nuance, and are just simply hateful for the sake of it), because to many of them, the simple fact is that nobody got you like your own. I mean yea, they can obviously potentially disappoint you in several other ways, but they'll always have that inherent understanding of what it means to navigate as a black person in this country. There's an implied "safeness" and comfort in dating someone with the same skin color as you, or primarily sticking to having black friends, as you 9.9999/10 you don't have to worry about explaining certain things to said non-black people, because they already get it.

But yea, basically, people just want to avoid that "dubious" relationship, the one where when it's all said and done, the S/O ultimately feels apathetic towards your race. Of course, that just means I need to do as thorough a job as possible in picking the right girl for me, regardless of skin color, but these are thoughts I've wanted to express whenever the topic gets brought up.
 
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Prototype Viktor

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Darryl M R said:
Your girl is white?

My girl is Hispanic but could pass for White but she understands my concerns as a Black man and she really cares about all minority issues.

It's her extended family that seems more slow in understanding race, despite being darker Hispanics.

In college I met some Black female students that were born into very wealthy family. I did not feel like we were the same Black though. They did not have the same concerns as other Black students and it was questioned if they saw themselves as Black or just another person.
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Does her sister have a mama?

Zekes! said:
someone get Slay an eHarmony account
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Eharmoney don't like race mixing. Just watch their commercials for further proof
 
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Furyous

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FyreWulff said:
Slayven date starter pack

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It's not a starter pack without the best Spider-Man ever
Miles Morales
and the best Ms. Marvel ever
Kamala khan.
Slay strikes me as a real hip-hop dude that will come through crush your life if you say Disaster is the best battle rapper of 2016 or Bendis ruined Marvel.

Been pulling 100+ hour work weeks lamenting the fact that my east coast professional football team won one game this year starting an undrafted rookie free agent in the process. On the brighter side, this No Man's Sky shit is new age SMACK. My setup is so struggle but I get the full experience. The whole grinding resources and ruining planets with mining circle of life is fucked but totally worth it because my 23 slot ship is damn efficient.

What's for dinner?
 
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Forearm Star

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Mornin' y'all.
Anyone ever use Target Cartwheel coupons? Wondering if the stack or if they'll give me some fuckery on the 50% off Gears4 coupon. Wasn't interested but at $15, I'll take it.
 
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Darryl M R

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Good morning all--destroyed some deadlifts at the gym today. I have the day off but I'm going to a funeral of a family friend and then getting my haircut later.

Forearm Star said:
Mornin' y'all.
Anyone ever use Target Cartwheel coupons? Wondering if the stack or if they'll give me some fuckery on the 50% off Gears4 coupon. Wasn't interested but at $15, I'll take it.
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G'morning bro, I never stacked them before but it's worth a try

Slayven said:
Your girl got a sister?
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Prototype Viktor said:
Does her sister have a mama?
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Ya some thirsty mofos
 
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NipplesAndToes23

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Just got my last paycheck from my last job today. I really feel sista is on to something it's just stupid that some fuckheads don't think her methods are profitable and the drug version will take way longer to be effective vs the laser method. As having a family member died of Cancer I can resonate and will be giving her a donation today.
 
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Darryl M R

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Blasian Persuasion said:
Just got my last paycheck from my last job today. I really feel sista is on to something it's just stupid that some fuckheads don't think her methods are profitable and the drug version will take way longer to be effective vs the laser method. As having a family member died of Cancer I can resonate and will be giving her a donation today.
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Can you share the donation link and any info on her? I'm about to head out and be on mobile but I want to take a look into it.
 
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RedSwirl said:
So someone tweeted a picture of an image search for "human Knuckles" and what's pissing me off more than anything else is 1) they all drew him as a white dude, and 2) with regular hair and not dreads. I distinctly remember the manual for Sonic 3 saying "dreadlocks."
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Well for one thing, knuckles hair isn't really dreadlocks. Along with that knuckles and his entier species is heavily based on Native american and south america

So knuckles would problably wouldn't really be all that black, considering his entire deal is him being a wonder woman esque figure from a land separated from everyone of a dying race. He would be native american, his which is evident by his culture in sonic adventure 1 and 2. There is an echidina tribe in egypt but that isn't knuckles's and is only more of a passing reference in sonic adventure 2. And sega doesn't really want to go too far into that, especially after penders lawsuit so you wont be getting anything more.

There isn't an distinctly African based character in sonic tbh, and sonic boom the old knuckles ruins lean even more into aztech south/ central america territory

So yeah

There was this cool fan art of Shadow being black and his quills were just his dreads tied up, and the red parts were someone dying the tips of his dreads. While shadow has no distinct origins besides " my dad is a fucking alian demon monster " the idea of the government being scared of a black dude with the ability to stop time, and they can't stop him so they are forced to hire him, that makes me laugh. I would like more distict or rather more animals based on cultures though in sonic, one from india would be dope.
 
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MikeBreezy92 said:
Basically the story of this year to me was that white people are even more willing to throw anybody under the bus even people they claim to care about. I saw too many instances of interracial couples being broken up because of the past election, seen race specific abuse, fetishization etc etc.

I always thought it was silly how people were so concerned about black men/women dating outside of the their race, more specifically white people but after this year, I can definitely see why. Understanding is already a major corner stone of relationships in the first place and adding the big ass subject of race in that just adds to the mountain of complications. I feel that white people will have a harder time in that aspect and can be borderline if not completely apathetic to most issues POC face. That's my personal concern and I can see why other black folks feel that way. They may be more ignorant about it, but there is something to idea that staying with your own or at least within the realm of POC. I mean not to say that they won't treat you wrong either. Its a nuanced subject foreal.
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LotusHD said:
At any rate, I think it certainly adds some nuance to why I've seen so many black people seem to frown or at least give side-eye to interracial dating (Though some people just spit on said nuance, and are just simply hateful for the sake of it), because to many of them, the simple fact is that nobody got you like your own. I mean yea, they can obviously potentially disappoint you in several other ways, but they'll always have that inherent understanding of what it means to navigate as a black person in this country. There's an implied "safeness" and comfort in dating someone with the same skin color as you, or primarily sticking to having black friends, as you 9.9999/10 you don't have to worry about explaining certain things to said non-black people, because they already get it.

But yea, basically, people just want to avoid that "dubious" relationship, the one where when it's all said and done, the S/O ultimately feels apathetic towards your race. Of course, that just means I need to do as thorough a job as possible in picking the right girl for me, regardless of skin color, but these are thoughts I've wanted to express whenever the topic gets brought up.
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You two, this was the original question:

SENPAIatLARGE said:
Why do interracial relationships send (certain)black people into a fit? Why do you even care that two people of different races found love?
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I don't see a problem with your posts individually/why you personally choose not to date outside your ethnic group is your business, but this is about other people (black in this case) seeing someone else in a relationship with someone of a different ethnic group (black and non black) and getting upset solely based on their skin color being different. Nothing in your posts makes this reaction acceptable.
 
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Forearm Star said:
I still don't get everyone's beef with SFV.
Then again they nerfed Cammy 😒
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  • It launched an unfished mess,
  • the story mode they added is kind of garbage something they could have skipped in the timeline all together and something I find personally a lot of people forgot they added
  • The gameplay is quite simplified , and while I enjoy it, I find it limits creativly what one can do with the game and while the DLC characters have been fixing ths. A larger portion of the regular cast I find to be very basic. And even the DLC complications got unessicary complictaed and changed Ibuki being a prime example of character ruined by this
  • Kens Face
  • Kens hair
  • Alex's hair
  • A good portion of the female alternate outfits TBH
  • Laura being glorified nothing as a character an uninteresting
  • While I Don't have a problem with fang a lot of people hate him
  • The costume's cost
  • The fact that stages cost any money at all
  • No arcade mode
  • It took a while to get local options in a modern fighting game
  • Capcom basically admitting they are focusing on the core base, so it incentivises people who like street fighter who aren't that, to hate it even more because they feel like they have been abandoned for a minority that they frankly don't give to fucks about.
  • The online
  • The online population
  • Waiting time for loads
  • That time capcom thought it was a good idea to instal a fucking ROOTKIT onto peoples fucking computers, holy shit.
  • The fact that other fight games exist and are better, and the people complaining while they enjoy street fighter, they also enjoy other games and its getting harder and harder to justify playing SF.
  • A lot of people are now upset that all season 2 are newcomers because they might be shit they don't like

There are reasons

I like street fighter, I play it. But there are reasons.
 
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Nudull

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SFV was a letdown on so many levels. Say what you will about Neverrealm/WB Games, but they could at least nail a decent story mode.
 
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Sch1sm

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Forearm Star said:
I still don't get everyone's beef with SFV.
Then again they nerfed Cammy 😒
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Only her dp was nerfed, but everyone's was, really. She was ultimately buffed because there are some combos that we couldn't do before that are options now.

At least that's what I remember from the patch notes.
 
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