Even cast members?
Never thought of the possibility
Damn
People were onto him quick about that and he had to delay everything till the actual system was out
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The Black Culture Thread |OT17| - Thanks, Obama
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Never thought of the possibility
Damn
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Too much blackness for them to handle.
2005 was the last year where there were multiple black sitcoms, now all we got are sitcoms where we kinda exist I guess..
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Yeah, there were so many back then: Martin, Fresh Prince, Family Matters, Moesha, Amen, Sister Sister, Jamie Foxx Show, The Wayans Bros, Malcolm & Eddie, A Different World, Living Single, Roc, My Brother and Me, Hanging with Mr. Cooper, The Parent Hood, The Steve Harvey Show, Kenan & Kel, Cousin Skeeter
Then it slowed down a bit in the 2000s: Girlfriends, One on One, Everybody Hates Chris, The Parkers, All of Us, Bernie Mac, Eve, and Half & Half
and then now I think all we got is Black-ish?
The last one I was invested in was Everybody Hates Chris.
Killa Sasa
Member
Just thought I should corroborate that Zelda is the truth. This refurb Wii U has been living its best life.
The hardware has been ass since jump street - I got in with MK8 a couple years back - but the software (re: Nintendo sequels) accumulated over time. Lots of best in series on this thing.
We'll see if Zelda is another one - first four exploratory hours are a good start.
Would've been mad to pay full price for this thing but def necessary if ya just want Nintendo games. I only have time for a handful of those, arcadey games on ps4 and sfv/marvel but my stick is broken so Zelda is right on time.
^^^I really need to start watching Blackish huh? I didn't like it giving away secrets and lore like the head nod in the second episode
The hardware has been ass since jump street - I got in with MK8 a couple years back - but the software (re: Nintendo sequels) accumulated over time. Lots of best in series on this thing.
We'll see if Zelda is another one - first four exploratory hours are a good start.
Would've been mad to pay full price for this thing but def necessary if ya just want Nintendo games. I only have time for a handful of those, arcadey games on ps4 and sfv/marvel but my stick is broken so Zelda is right on time.
^^^I really need to start watching Blackish huh? I didn't like it giving away secrets and lore like the head nod in the second episode
Yep. Time to start up the roast again.
JC told rotten tomatoes to let Armando White reviews count again.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
There were a couple clips I liked of Black-ish, but I don't feel interested enough to watch a whole episode. I wish we had more options.
I like it, on average it is your average sitcom. Nothing wrong with that. But when they want to talk about some shit, THEY TALK ABOUT SOME SHIT..
Prototype Viktor
Member
JC told his best friend he got him a copy of that new Zelda for his birthday. Showed up with it and it was The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks wrapped in it's original wrapping
I purposefully didn't bring up Black-ish and The Carmichael Show, the two network television Black sitocms.
Dead.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
We don't talk about that show here.
It looks the worst out of the MCU joints so far, but until they fail...I got faith.
Folks seem to want to hate it since Danny is a white guy instead of Asian.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Remember, GAF is a minority. A very vocal minority but a minority nonetheless.
Frozenprince
Banned
I like em all a lot but idk something about how they handling Danny feels off to me. Hope I'm wrong, dude is my favorite
Their worst is still better than everyone's best
Frozenprince
Banned
Idk why people down on Luke Cage. Yeah the last 3 EPS ain't too hot but it's still a great action show with dynamite action choreography.
What is their worst really? In terms of the movies it's IM 2 or Thor 2, and they're still competently made movies
In terms of TV it's Episodes 1-15 of SHIELD or the last few episodes of Luke Cage, and that's still alright.
I think a good amount of the hate is from the way people watch them. by the last 3 eps people are watching them just to get them over with.
MHWilliams
Member
JC got himself and Momma Feenix Essence Festival tickets and gave Feenix a 3 day trial for Tidal that expired in December 2016.
Still gotta sit down and completely watch Gaim one day.
Professor Beef
Banned
I could never binge a show like that. Even when I rewatch older anime, I can only really take in 4 or so episodes at a time.
Mrs. Manky
Banned
Yes it's because Danny isn't Asian. This is also linked to the Ancient One mess for Doctor Strange. Now, writers have created great Iron Fist stories, and the Cage/Fist friendship is legendary. But honestly, Iron Fist is a throwback to the "white guy who learns a skill from another culture and outdoes the people in that culture" trope. It's problematic.
Marvel has made great strides in representation of black people in their comics and the MCU (movie and TV). Captain America is now black. Spider-Man is now black. The Black Panther movie is going to be The Event in 2018. And the Luke Cage show on Netflix was a best seller. And in order to do all this, Marvel had to retool and look at their black characters and their portrayal of black characters in a modern way and bring things up to date.
So. Some Asian Americans see all this and want the same thing. They have the new Hulk! They have Ms. Marvel! Things are looking good, and then...The Ancient One. They are still probably side eyeing Marvel for the Mandarin, but that was nothing next to this. I guess they thought that Marvel would find a way to pull off "respectful but representative", like they managed to do with Benedict Wong as...Wong. But Marvel punted to Tilda Swinton. Asian American actors are hurting for work, now one part they could get is taken by a white woman who is always working.
And here comes Danny Rand, the David Carradine of comic book characters. A white man stealing their cultural lunch. So, if Samuel L. Jackson can play Nick Fury and Idris Elba can play Heimdall, then Danny Rand can be Asian, right? Make him a kid who is distant from his culture and earning the Iron Fist is his journey back to his roots. How much is Rand being white shaping the character? Is it the rich kid part that makes him have to be white (and man, Arrow TV show fans must be confused right now), much like how Bruce Wayne being an old money rich white kid shapes his character?
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R Some Asian American comic fans want Danny Rand to be Asian, and I'm cool with that.
Marvel has made great strides in representation of black people in their comics and the MCU (movie and TV). Captain America is now black. Spider-Man is now black. The Black Panther movie is going to be The Event in 2018. And the Luke Cage show on Netflix was a best seller. And in order to do all this, Marvel had to retool and look at their black characters and their portrayal of black characters in a modern way and bring things up to date.
So. Some Asian Americans see all this and want the same thing. They have the new Hulk! They have Ms. Marvel! Things are looking good, and then...The Ancient One. They are still probably side eyeing Marvel for the Mandarin, but that was nothing next to this. I guess they thought that Marvel would find a way to pull off "respectful but representative", like they managed to do with Benedict Wong as...Wong. But Marvel punted to Tilda Swinton. Asian American actors are hurting for work, now one part they could get is taken by a white woman who is always working.
And here comes Danny Rand, the David Carradine of comic book characters. A white man stealing their cultural lunch. So, if Samuel L. Jackson can play Nick Fury and Idris Elba can play Heimdall, then Danny Rand can be Asian, right? Make him a kid who is distant from his culture and earning the Iron Fist is his journey back to his roots. How much is Rand being white shaping the character? Is it the rich kid part that makes him have to be white (and man, Arrow TV show fans must be confused right now), much like how Bruce Wayne being an old money rich white kid shapes his character?
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R Some Asian American comic fans want Danny Rand to be Asian, and I'm cool with that.NipplesAndToes23
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Yeah, I'm rewatching it right now and still good shit. I'm ready for Defenders to get here so I can find out how Luke comes back.
Yes it's because Danny isn't Asian. This is also linked to the Ancient One mess for Doctor Strange. Now, writers have created great Iron Fist stories, and the Cage/Fist friendship is legendary. But honestly, Iron Fist is a throwback to the "white guy who learns a skill from another culture and outdoes the people in that culture" trope. It's problematic.
Marvel has made great strides in representation of black people in their comics and the MCU (movie and TV). Captain America is now black. Spider-Man is now black. The Black Panther movie is going to be The Event in 2018. And the Luke Cage show on Netflix was a best seller. And in order to do all this, Marvel had to retool and look at their black characters and their portrayal of black characters in a modern way and bring things up to date.
So. Some Asian Americans see all this and want the same thing. They have the new Hulk! They have Ms. Marvel! Things are looking good, and then...The Ancient One. They are still probably side eyeing Marvel for the Mandarin, but that was nothing next to this. I guess they thought that Marvel would find a way to pull off "respectful but representative", like they managed to do with Benedict Wong as...Wong. But Marvel punted to Tilda Swinton. Asian American actors are hurting for work, now one part they could get is taken by a white woman who is always working.
And here comes Danny Rand, the David Carradine of comic book characters. A white man stealing their cultural lunch. So, if Samuel L. Jackson can play Nick Fury and Idris Elba can play Heimdall, then Danny Rand can be Asian, right? Make him a kid who is distant from his culture and earning the Iron Fist is his journey back to his roots. How much is Rand being white shaping the character? Is it the rich kid part that makes him have to be white (and man, Arrow TV show fans must be confused right now), much like how Bruce Wayne being an old money rich white kid shapes his character?
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I can understand it. I heard both sides. Some Asians don't want it because it can be seen as another stereotypical role with an Asian lead that's a martial arts master, but some others like you said thinks it would be a great opportunity to have an Asian in the lead role.
I am worried about it after watching that Colleen Wing clip.
Fixed.
Not that I hated it to the extent that some on GAF apparently do, but yea, quality went down a cliff
as soon as Cottonmouth died. Them killing him was ballsy as fuck and I thought it was going somewhere, but they ruined it replacing him with fucking Diamondback. Dude just ruined the show for me with his antics, and that was on top of the admittedly sluggish pacing that I couldn't help but notice. But yea, Diamondback, pretty much hated nearly everything about him, because his whole demeanor just didn't match the rest of the show.
It's lame because I was really poised to have it be my new favorite Netflix Marvel show, especially because there's several things in the show that I easily can relate to, and then shit just hits the fan unfortunately. It did get a lot right though, no doubt about that.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I must be weird because I like it all.
Frozenprince
Banned
I would bet anything that the mouse has a Shang Chi show in the works as we speak, no way they are tone def enough to miss the opportunity.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
Luke Cage and Iron Fist was always more Lethal Weapon then Rush Hour. Danny's one of the few characters I would not want to be racially changed. Hes a dopey white guy that despite his amazing powers continues to make a fool of himself. It pairs well with Luke Cage's no nonsense approach to crime fighting.
Frozenprince
Banned
Plus you need him to have Misty slap some sense into him now and again. Danny is a good character, he works, yes he was born from an unfortunate reality but what he's become has far exceeded that.
I love basically everything Marvel does, but Iron Fist is looking like trash.
I hope I'm wrong.
I feel people that say that haven't actually read the comic. He is at best the city's mascot. You got folks living there that can create chi powered golems with a thought, resurrect the dead, hell the five year girl next in line for the iron fist can summon dragons from books. Hell when the city got blowed up they told him to stay home cause he would just get in the way.Yes it's because Danny isn't Asian. This is also linked to the Ancient One mess for Doctor Strange. Now, writers have created great Iron Fist stories, and the Cage/Fist friendship is legendary. But honestly, Iron Fist is a throwback to the "white guy who learns a skill from another culture and outdoes the people in that culture" trope. It's problematic.
Marvel has made great strides in representation of black people in their comics and the MCU (movie and TV). Captain America is now black. Spider-Man is now black. The Black Panther movie is going to be The Event in 2018. And the Luke Cage show on Netflix was a best seller. And in order to do all this, Marvel had to retool and look at their black characters and their portrayal of black characters in a modern way and bring things up to date.
So. Some Asian Americans see all this and want the same thing. They have the new Hulk! They have Ms. Marvel! Things are looking good, and then...The Ancient One. They are still probably side eyeing Marvel for the Mandarin, but that was nothing next to this. I guess they thought that Marvel would find a way to pull off "respectful but representative", like they managed to do with Benedict Wong as...Wong. But Marvel punted to Tilda Swinton. Asian American actors are hurting for work, now one part they could get is taken by a white woman who is always working.
And here comes Danny Rand, the David Carradine of comic book characters. A white man stealing their cultural lunch. So, if Samuel L. Jackson can play Nick Fury and Idris Elba can play Heimdall, then Danny Rand can be Asian, right? Make him a kid who is distant from his culture and earning the Iron Fist is his journey back to his roots. How much is Rand being white shaping the character? Is it the rich kid part that makes him have to be white (and man, Arrow TV show fans must be confused right now), much like how Bruce Wayne being an old money rich white kid shapes his character?
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Now if folks said the Prince of Orphans, they might have a point. Motherfucker is broken.
I think that part of the problem is that you don't really get a sense of this in any of the trailers that have been released at this point. They all come across as playing the whole thing completely straight.
Count Dookkake
Member
I hope you guys find this pictorial amusing.
I didn't think it deserved its own thread and figured the posters in this one seemed likeliest to get a kick out of it. If I am wrong, please, forgive me this small bit of racial profiling.
Yesterday, my buddy and I drove 90 miles or so to troll a confederate flag rally.
I didn't think it deserved its own thread and figured the posters in this one seemed likeliest to get a kick out of it. If I am wrong, please, forgive me this small bit of racial profiling.
Yesterday, my buddy and I drove 90 miles or so to troll a confederate flag rally.
MHWilliams
Member
He's the city's mascot now. For most of his history, he was played straight.
And that supposes the Netflix series will take up that current concept, rather than just playing it straight.
Frozenprince
Banned
They have immortal Iron fist sitting right there after striking gold adapting Brubaker and fraction already.
Just fucking do Immortal.
Frozenprince
Banned
They look just about like I imagine people supporting that stupid shit would look. Even the slightly pudgy kid with the folder.
Rayven_king
Member
who did this
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