Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
Looks like something I saw in a japanese porn flick once
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The Black Culture Thread |OT6| Monica Enjoys Being Black
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Looks like something I saw in a japanese porn flick once
soundscream
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The Faceless Master
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ultimately, Sony made the choice to move PS4 online play from free to behind the PS+ paywall.
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Retro_
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Did Live Gold provide universal online play across all profiles on an xbox? Or did you have to buy live for each account individually?
If it's the latter I think PSN+ is a bit better since apparently it enables online play for all profiles on that system as long as at least one account has it
If it's the latter I think PSN+ is a bit better since apparently it enables online play for all profiles on that system as long as at least one account has it
soundscream
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Live does that on xbox one
The Faceless Master
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their damn web browser is behind a paywall.
Steam has free competition on the same open platform.
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Retro_
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Then both I think are making progress.
I don't mind paying for the service if it's like that. Especially in its current form where you can buy cards that are discounted frequently, and the subscription through cards stacks.
I don't mind paying for the service if it's like that. Especially in its current form where you can buy cards that are discounted frequently, and the subscription through cards stacks.
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I don't think Steam "gets away" with not having to charge a sub fee. They simply can't. PC isn't a closed platform like PS4 and Xbox One.
and don't forget there was a time when steam didn't have an item marketplace.
DragonKnight
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Seconded. Just was thinking the same thing when perusing that worst company in america thread. Customers keep these companies alive lol.
Dedicated servers, bandwidth for letting people download games, and all that other fun stuff isn't free. It has to come from somewhere.
When the maximum size of your friends list is determined by how much money you've given to Valve, they're just shuffling costs to the whales instead of making everyone pay up.
Remember when Microsoft tried the sub fee on PC?
that was some hilarious shit
what did that last, six months?
too bad we've had to deal with the software remnants of their nonsense ever since
I don't know if that's a fair way to look at it. They started out with a 250 friend limit a long time ago, and then once they introduced cards they let you get more slots with your steam level.
Was that Halo 2 nonsense? That was hilarious.
I think it was more about Gears of War. Halo 2 was where they made it Windows Vista only because of reasons.
edit: looked it up, you're right
Shadowrun, Halo 2 and Gears of War came out while it was a subscription service, which lasted a little over a year
Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
Ew.
Speaking of fast food, why does that XiaNaphryz dude always make threads about it?
They can only get away for charging for a change to a LIMIT parameter of a SQL query because they still insist on running the Steam Friends as a closed network instead of something open like XMPP. Of course, that's the whole point, they want people to be locked in to Steam so they don't go to other stores. That's how these services work.
Angelus Errare
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The best part were the people defending paying. Like monica really?
ViewtifulJC
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Not going to lie, I fucked hard with Shadowrun
who was that dude that was hyping shadowrun like it was the next coming? that shit was hilarious
Devolution
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Pay for live.
Have a friends limit of 100.
I think that pissed me off more than anything back in the day.
Have a friends limit of 100.
I think that pissed me off more than anything back in the day.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Ahhh Project Morpheus has been revealed i see.
Morpheus gifs will take over bandaras
brace yourself yall
yea for some reason people only think one VR is enough. I'm pretty sure even MS will try something soon
brace yourself yall
yea for some reason people only think one VR is enough. I'm pretty sure even MS will try something soon
This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. I paid $60 for Mirror's Edge's six-hour campaign but I probably completed it like five times. Sometimes replayability comes from a game just being that well-made.
That's the genius of it tho. Valve found microtransactions people are actually willing to pay for and created a whole economy out of them instead of forcing customers to pay. It's not just the tradeable items either, but they found some pretty creative microtransactions like tickets to watch DOTA 2 tournaments and gain entrance to official TF2 servers.
Well really, Steam doesn't charge a subscription because Microsoft learned the hard way you gotta be outta your damn mind to charge for online services on PC outside MMOs.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Everyone wants a piece of that pie in a race to "crack" it first. Brace yourselves.
That illumiroom thingy they patented seemed cool.
I don't know that you can even exclude MMOs at this point. WoW, Eve, and Final Fantasy seem to be the only ones that can carry on via subscription at this point.
And no, I am not including Elder Scrolls Online. That's gonna be a trainwreck, lemme tell ya.
Boss Riovane
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Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
That looks awful.
Ole Mayor McCheese done hit them hard times.
The resemblance is uncanny.
Then they fed everyone the bullshit line of Halo 2 being the reason of it not being able to go above 100.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Curious to see how Sony's VR tech turns out. The other team has Carmac and a super squad of people working on it. Either way, competition is good.
MorisUkunRasik
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OR vs Sony's headset will be cool. With Sony's attempting to woo indies during their PS4 campaign, I feel like they have an advantage assuming porting from OR to Sony VR is relatively easy and then they have their 1st party support.
I wonder how long until MS throws their hat into the VR ring.
I honestly do not think MS will get into the VR market, very high risk for a company with investors at their throat.
Sony a different story. They're like that black person who hangs on the block with Crowns and Liquor store next to each other while wearing jeans with NBA stitching on them. Sony aint got shit to lose. All or nothing for them.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Hardly. Unless you are looking at it purely through the lens of the Entertainment and Gaming Division of the company.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Man...Dark Souls 2 is just as addicting as the first two. I find myself turning over build ideas and plans for my next session at work and in class all the time. Can't stop thinking about it. Pissed at real life and responsibilities for getting in the way of playing. That feeling when you finally start playing a game you really love is worth all the bullshit we have to put up with in the industry before we find it again.
Tempted to marathon this shit on spring break...
Tempted to marathon this shit on spring break...
Alligatorjandro
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Ground Zeroes is actually really fun
Yes I am only looking at it through the lens of the Entertainment and Gaming Division. Sorry should of been more specific.
Angelus Errare
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soundscream
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I am more interested if that AR project comes to fruition. I don't want VR, because I don't like the enclosed feeling you get when wearing the headsets.
I wrote this in another thread, but:
I still don't see VR headsets catching on for multiple reasons.
First of all, it's a peripheral, and like all peripherals, it's doomed to subpar software support since it doesn't make sense to develop for a subset (those who own the peripheral) of a subset (those who own the platform in question).
Second of all, the price of entry is too steep. You have to have a Playstation 4. You have to have a Playstation Camera. And you have to have the VR peripheral itself, which is likely to be expensive in its own right.
And lastly, it's basically impossible to market/advertise. Unlike something like Kinect, you can't really convey the experience outside of actually experiencing it. It's basically limited to hands on impressions and word of mouth, which can definitely be a powerful form of advertisement, but not enough to carve out a legitimate market share.
Having said that, the idea of VR is awesome, and I really hope it catches on despite not being hopeful. My only reserve is the fact that I sometimes get motion sickness from games, especially first person shooters, so I'm a bit worried that the tech will wreck my body
I'd be saying that too if so many developers weren't so enthusiastic about VR. Almost every developer making a notable first person game on PC seems to be interested in OR, and adding OR support doesn't seem to be quite as concept-intensive as Kinect or PlayStation Move.
Developers were pretty enthusiastic about the Kinect as well. But I see it succumbing to the same issues as Kinect: A) At the end of the day, video games are a business. They're fairly expensive to make, and if you're trying to get a return on your investment, it doesn't make much sense to cater to the install base of an install base. B) The before mentioned issue can be remedied if the install base of the peripheral is large enough, but what's the realistic attach rate of an expensive peripheral that requires an already expensive platform (High end PC or Playstation 4 to play? My expectations are pretty low along that front. C)Yes, developers can tack on VR/OR support, but similar to other experiences of this nature (3D for example), the overall experience is muddied when its not built from the ground up utilizing the technology in question.
Whatever becomes popular first, everyone else will copy, and it probably won't utilize the full functionality of the hardware.
Like how the Wiimote was capable of so much more, but many developers just decided to map shaking the remote to button presses because hey, that other developer did it.
Like how the Wiimote was capable of so much more, but many developers just decided to map shaking the remote to button presses because hey, that other developer did it.
Squats?
How is this humanly possible?
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