Boss Riovane
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I just looked at the PSN store thread and Deception 4 is coming on the 25th. So damn hype.
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Not worth it imo. But fwiw, I haven't played the bonus missions....because who gives a fuck about a bonus mission. I'll say it's fun though, and having a big open map is great for mgs. I think it will have a bit of replayability, a lot more than say the tanker chapter of mgs2. Maybe after I play some more I might feel differently, but I doubt it.
Byakuya769
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After a generation of most people harping on parity despite it being free, you have to blame the consumers in the first instance.
Devolution
Member
Honestly PSN's multi options were kind of shit. MS would have taken less crap for paying for Live if it continually improved on the options like party chat and such. And if those fuckers would have put their biggest selling game Halo on some god damn dedis.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Since when were games not 8-10 hours in the ps2 era? The major titles from the major players sure as hell were.
Before I liked paying for Live because there were no cheaters and they were banned quickly. Later on in the OXbox and for most of the 360 run, MS pretty much let modders run rampant.
And yeah, it would have been much more worth it if you actually got something for the sub, like dedis, file space to store game data on, and if they had actual GMs on games who's entire purpose was to catch people being fuckwads in chat/in game and ban them.
Consumers helped set that precedent. We're enablers.
n00bsauce87
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Retro_
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Plenty were longer. Plenty were shorter.
Games like Z.O.E 1 and 2, Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, Viewtiful Joe. All full price games at launch from "major players". All games you can beat in one sitting.
Then there was the NES era where people would pay 60-70 bucks for a cart of Contra, a game they probably couldn't even finish the first level of. Why? because it was a good game. Hour counts and shit weren't apart of people's vocabulary. People judged games by how fun they were to play
Vs today. Where people don't think a game they were otherwise interested in is worth paying 20 dollars to get without even leaving your house because some guy on the internet just said he beat it in 30 minutes while ignoring the bulk of the content
Like it's just crazy to me how disposable entertainment has become to people to the point that it almost has no value to them.
It's interesting...the question I ask myself is if Sony didn't fuck it all up this past gen, and went in as the leader again with it's piss poor setup from the start but still free...where would we be right now?
Would it have resulted in another free generation? or a bigger backlash from the media because the leader is making you pay for it?
I always wonder how this gen would have went down if it went the other direction
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
"Plenty were longer. Plenty were shorter."
That's such a copout. You know damn well that most of their main titles were sitting right on that mark. :/ If the main game wasn't, then they had a bunch of extras to offset the shortness (now it's dlc).
Who cares if they "can be" beaten in one sitting? I beat MGS 3 in one sitting, because I didn't have school. It wasn't a 2 hr game. I could beat RE 4 in less than 5, aka...one sitting. That doesn't mean that on my first play through it didn't take me 18. Hell, none of the games you listed are going to take the average gamer 2 hrs on their first play through unless they have a guide on hand. What are you even qualifying as one sitting?
Again, I bring up Case Zero. The exact same situation as this.
Besides, now you can watch people cruise through it on youtube.
That's such a copout. You know damn well that most of their main titles were sitting right on that mark. :/ If the main game wasn't, then they had a bunch of extras to offset the shortness (now it's dlc).
Who cares if they "can be" beaten in one sitting? I beat MGS 3 in one sitting, because I didn't have school. It wasn't a 2 hr game. I could beat RE 4 in less than 5, aka...one sitting. That doesn't mean that on my first play through it didn't take me 18. Hell, none of the games you listed are going to take the average gamer 2 hrs on their first play through unless they have a guide on hand. What are you even qualifying as one sitting?
Again, I bring up Case Zero. The exact same situation as this.
Besides, now you can watch people cruise through it on youtube.
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Retro_
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I have absolutely 0% interest in doing anything of the sort.
You keep doing you and counting pages. I'll keep doing me and just playing/reading/watching what I want when I want.
I guess I should consider myself fortunate to be able to consume entertainment without having to sweat the difference of like 10-20 dollars towards something I enjoy
toastyToast
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Not that I ever play any of the PS+ games I get but I implicitly feel that the service is worth paying for. Must be the Steam game Pokemon factor at work.
The GZ length debacle, if you're a big enough fan to buy it day one then do it. If you aren't but you still want it, wait for a price drop. If your still an MGS fan but you can't see yourself paying $20 or whatever it drops to for a taste then borrow it or cop it second hand.
I don't fault its existence, is up to people to evaluate it's worth. If it does terribly Konami will know better next time.
This is a good point. Really, GZ is the price of going to the theatre a couple times and grabbing a drink. There's a fucked up value scale when it comes to games as if time spent gaming is inherently less valuable than time otherwise spent doing another activity. For a person that really likes MGS, a couple hours might be worth a lot.
The GZ length debacle, if you're a big enough fan to buy it day one then do it. If you aren't but you still want it, wait for a price drop. If your still an MGS fan but you can't see yourself paying $20 or whatever it drops to for a taste then borrow it or cop it second hand.
I don't fault its existence, is up to people to evaluate it's worth. If it does terribly Konami will know better next time.
This is a good point. Really, GZ is the price of going to the theatre a couple times and grabbing a drink. There's a fucked up value scale when it comes to games as if time spent gaming is inherently less valuable than time otherwise spent doing another activity. For a person that really likes MGS, a couple hours might be worth a lot.
GhettoGamer
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Smh monicas yall didnt redbox that GZ? Shieet i be damn i spend 30 on a appetizer
Byakuya769
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Monica, you think you better than us? Flashing your chain round might get it snatched.
Monica Deebo gonna get his ass
toastyToast
Member
Terrible shit becomes the norm all the time. Saltiness is an inevitability.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Yall aint even gonna play it anyway
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Dudes gotta be poor cause they don't want to drop 30 on something? lol. I could have millions and still wouldn't.
soundscream
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Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
You was hyping this mess!
Hopefully not. The games been in production for a long time and im sure konami is desparate to make some ends since the game is taking longer than originally projected.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
If I don't end up enjoying GZ I will salt the crow myself, but I've spent more on games that were hyped up significantly to end up not feeling them at all.
I do however think other pubs will be discouraged from similar sales tactics by the vocal backlash against this.
I do however think other pubs will be discouraged from similar sales tactics by the vocal backlash against this.
GhettoGamer
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Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
Look at that struggle lettuce
Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
reminds me of the Double Down failure
Angelus Errare
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Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
the fuck IS that exactly?
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
That shit looks like a Dark Souls creature.
Byakuya769
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Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
Is this a Tearaway papercraft? What level is it from?
soundscream
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KFC: Prepare to Die
spindashingavatar.jpgSpin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
scust
Yea they been kind of deseperate for awhile now. MGS on the console front is there bread and butter. I remember Kojima mentioning
well he always says it after each Metal Gear now that I think of it
GotEmRunnin
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Byakuya769
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Ugh... if this professor mentions GotG one more time...
Necromanti
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The uncanny valley of burgers.
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Retro_
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I'm pretty sure the main reason Kojima is making MGS5 was to get Konami to sink the resources into his studio to develop the Fox Engine. They need a big game to justify the big cost.
Hopefully after that his team will be able to do more experimental titles on the engine. but who knows. Last time they tried to make something too different they had to cancel the game.(original Rising)
EscoBlades
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Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Y'all wont buy ground zeros but will spend money on that thing
I was afraid this was gonna happen. I'm holding off for the PC version, so I've kept myself in the dark for everything. I guess it's expected since the bar was set so fucking high in DS1. Some of the designs are craaaaazy.
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Retro_
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Well to be fair it's pretty much guaranteed that that thing is gonna be in your system for at least 8-10 hours
Byakuya769
Member
Hahaha.
I mean, I like it still, it's on par with 1. Not better but not worse. Too many humanoid type of bosses tho and some areas aren't as memorable. Other then that, it is worth it. Map is freaking huge.
Also finally know what anime your avatar is from, Black Lagoon was hype as fuck hope there is a 3rd season soon
Spin takes another L
You was hyping this mess!
I'm weird about it, but pickles on a sandwich irritates me.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Hope Monica, Hope
but I read that the dude tha writes the manga started it back up back in december so it's only a matter of time and enough material until another season
Heh, humanoid bosses were some of my favorites lol. But it's good to hear that it's still a good experience.
And it's always good to see another BL fan! The creator got off his hiatus recently, so I assume season 3 will start to be teased when the manga gets going again.
The Roberta OVA was a good sign.
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