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The death of EzLink (Or: So your Christian parents find your GAF account...)
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WascallyWabbit
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peace out, EZLink, we'll see you in a few years when u get your own place and income
Foxy Fox 39
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Interesting. Not to gloss over the rest of your post but the "you can't prove God that's why it takes faith" line is ludicrous. And I believe in God!
Although I guess it depends on what your definition of "prove" is. God can prove himself to someone, but it may not be that easy for someone to prove God to someone else. I could tell you about "experiences" all day but that only does so much for people. They have to have it themselves.
With that said, good luck in your new life. It's cool that your relationship hasn't taken a major hit. Oh and to the parents, Gaf isn't all bad. True story; I casually prayed for photoshop (Im an artist and I was broke...shocking right?) and a week later a gaf member said he could hook me up with a sealed boxed copy of a CS5 SUITE (retails for 1600+) delivered from Adobe for only 100 bucks.
This was when it first came out too...
God using Gaf to answer prayers is hilariously awesome.:lol
Although I guess it depends on what your definition of "prove" is. God can prove himself to someone, but it may not be that easy for someone to prove God to someone else. I could tell you about "experiences" all day but that only does so much for people. They have to have it themselves.
With that said, good luck in your new life. It's cool that your relationship hasn't taken a major hit. Oh and to the parents, Gaf isn't all bad. True story; I casually prayed for photoshop (Im an artist and I was broke...shocking right?) and a week later a gaf member said he could hook me up with a sealed boxed copy of a CS5 SUITE (retails for 1600+) delivered from Adobe for only 100 bucks.
This was when it first came out too...God using Gaf to answer prayers is hilariously awesome.:lol
As a person who doesn't smoke pot outside of rare circumstances and quite frankly doesn't enjoy it at all and probably never will, I just have to say...your parent's narrow minded religious convictions are far more harmful to you than pot will ever be. But hey thats just my opinion, I'm sure thats something you would never agree with. And at least they love you. Just remember the asshole who beats the shit out of his wife "for her own good" often loves her too. Good luck.
No. They couldn't. Gifts count as transferral of property. It is legally yours now. If they've never used it, it wouldn't even be hard to prove.EzLink said:
But even if it wasn't, that information is yours. Even if they didn't have to break passwords or security, snooping through someone else's information is absolutely illegal and carries hefty penalties if proven guilty in court.
Disgusting forum? REALLY?
Anyway, on topic a few thoughts. First, your parents of course have the right to set any rules they want. Personally, as much as I think the scientific consensus shows that marijuana is basically harmless (and certainly a good deal less dangerous than alcohol) and should absolutely be legal I can't blame them for being uncomfortable with your pot use. If nothing else the constant war of information on the issue has so muddied the waters for people that aren't actually following the issue (and then, aren't willing to look at it from all angles and view points) that it's completely understandable someone is going to take a default anti-drug position. There is a reason why programs like DARE are so common place even if government statistics on drug use show they haven't done much to budge the usage rates. Personally, marijuana and other drugs aren't my thing anyway and don't interest me so I can't relate to you from the stand point of a user, but you're absolutely right from a scientific standpoint.
In fact, according to David Nutt former chief drug adviser to the British government in a study he co-authored for the British medical journal the Lancet:
Alcohol is more dangerous than heroin and both are more dangerous than cannabis.
Another chart from the study that can be useful:
Anyway, as for all that other stuff, that's between you and your parents. As long as you live there you owe them some respect, which you're showing. If you move out they cannot control your actions. I would urge your parents to educate themselves and look at the actual data on the subject but aside from that ultimately everyone has to make their own choices.
Anyway, on topic a few thoughts. First, your parents of course have the right to set any rules they want. Personally, as much as I think the scientific consensus shows that marijuana is basically harmless (and certainly a good deal less dangerous than alcohol) and should absolutely be legal I can't blame them for being uncomfortable with your pot use. If nothing else the constant war of information on the issue has so muddied the waters for people that aren't actually following the issue (and then, aren't willing to look at it from all angles and view points) that it's completely understandable someone is going to take a default anti-drug position. There is a reason why programs like DARE are so common place even if government statistics on drug use show they haven't done much to budge the usage rates. Personally, marijuana and other drugs aren't my thing anyway and don't interest me so I can't relate to you from the stand point of a user, but you're absolutely right from a scientific standpoint.
In fact, according to David Nutt former chief drug adviser to the British government in a study he co-authored for the British medical journal the Lancet:
Alcohol is more dangerous than heroin and both are more dangerous than cannabis.
Another chart from the study that can be useful:
Anyway, as for all that other stuff, that's between you and your parents. As long as you live there you owe them some respect, which you're showing. If you move out they cannot control your actions. I would urge your parents to educate themselves and look at the actual data on the subject but aside from that ultimately everyone has to make their own choices.
I knew this was coming but hoped Ezlink would figure something out. Maybe one day he'll return through glorious white light of the resurre--
--naw I'm just shitting you Ezlink's parents that biblical shit is all made up.
Side Story: I had moved out when I was 17 but I didn't have my own computer right away so for a while I would periodically return back home to check my accounts. Eventually when myspace came out I had made an account and was totally using it to plan all my drug adventures.
I always used the remember password feature since my mom rarely ever used this PC but boy was I surprised when I came for a visit and was confronted with the fact that I was still rampantly using ecstasy and coke and shrooms.
Good times, good times. She was really pissed but I was moved on, nothing you can do! My parents are both really religious so I feel your pain, Ez. That's why I had to move out when I was young.
--naw I'm just shitting you Ezlink's parents that biblical shit is all made up.
Side Story: I had moved out when I was 17 but I didn't have my own computer right away so for a while I would periodically return back home to check my accounts. Eventually when myspace came out I had made an account and was totally using it to plan all my drug adventures.
I always used the remember password feature since my mom rarely ever used this PC but boy was I surprised when I came for a visit and was confronted with the fact that I was still rampantly using ecstasy and coke and shrooms.
Good times, good times. She was really pissed but I was moved on, nothing you can do! My parents are both really religious so I feel your pain, Ez. That's why I had to move out when I was young.
ConfusingJazz
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Gaborn said:
Man, I think 4chan and some of the other deep dark places of the internet would blow their mind.
wolfmat
Confirmed Asshole
EzLink,
grow up. That means particularly that you shouldn't let anyone shove you around. Don't allow this extortion to break your spirit. You're still the same person after you leave GAF or stop smoking weed. So you end up at the same crossing.
If you need a therapist, go there, by all means. Talking with a pastor also doesn't hurt, they're usually pretty level-headed people in my experience.
Your parents did a gross mistake when they went through your stuff, you have to make that part clear. They haven't understood it yet. You caving in at this point is a terrible thing. You have to stand up to your elders, just as we all had to. I had to do that. It's a part of the human experience. You don't have to throw dishes or whatever, just draw a line. Obviously, you need to do that sooner rather than later, going by how you're being pushed around at this point.
You may rely financially on them now, but how far are you willing to let others dictate your life? Well, at this point, I have a pretty good idea, actually. This is not what you want to do.
Anyway, good luck and don't do drugs.
grow up. That means particularly that you shouldn't let anyone shove you around. Don't allow this extortion to break your spirit. You're still the same person after you leave GAF or stop smoking weed. So you end up at the same crossing.
If you need a therapist, go there, by all means. Talking with a pastor also doesn't hurt, they're usually pretty level-headed people in my experience.
Your parents did a gross mistake when they went through your stuff, you have to make that part clear. They haven't understood it yet. You caving in at this point is a terrible thing. You have to stand up to your elders, just as we all had to. I had to do that. It's a part of the human experience. You don't have to throw dishes or whatever, just draw a line. Obviously, you need to do that sooner rather than later, going by how you're being pushed around at this point.
You may rely financially on them now, but how far are you willing to let others dictate your life? Well, at this point, I have a pretty good idea, actually. This is not what you want to do.
Anyway, good luck and don't do drugs.
FunkyMunkey
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The tone of your posts in religious-related threads kinda make sense now... and getting high everyday after losing your "religious crutch"(lol wat), isn't healthy at all. Well if it's dependency.
Like others have said, you're 21. Get out asap if you can.
Like others have said, you're 21. Get out asap if you can.
bengraven
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I refuse to bad-mouth your parents. I will say that by keeping you at home and helping you through school, they are doing you a very solid thing.
However, I can't help but feel they are insecure and can't trust you to make your own decisions. The fact they, and let's be honest here, demand you put up with their rules or lose financial backing feels as if they are using their control over you to help them feel more secure.
They're scared of losing you. Which is valid, I myself have a son and I can imagine being in their shoes. But I can't imagine putting him through what you are, even at your age.
Love them.
But leave them.
You all need to move on and accept you're a mature adult who can make your own decisions.
Sorry to sound preachy, but it's just how I feel. Have a life, Ezlink and if/when you get a new account okayed, just let us know how you're doing somehow.
However, I can't help but feel they are insecure and can't trust you to make your own decisions. The fact they, and let's be honest here, demand you put up with their rules or lose financial backing feels as if they are using their control over you to help them feel more secure.
They're scared of losing you. Which is valid, I myself have a son and I can imagine being in their shoes. But I can't imagine putting him through what you are, even at your age.
Love them.
But leave them.
You all need to move on and accept you're a mature adult who can make your own decisions.
Sorry to sound preachy, but it's just how I feel. Have a life, Ezlink and if/when you get a new account okayed, just let us know how you're doing somehow.
TheKaeptain
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I'm offended that they think gaf is disgusting. Class and gaf goes hand and hand.
*shines Monocle with pocket handkerchief*
*shines Monocle with pocket handkerchief*
victreeb3l
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your parents saw the victoria justice/k-pop thread didnt they?
also, youre 21. man the fuck up and move out. youre not some helpless angsty 16 year old. get a job, make sacrifices and own your life.
also, youre 21. man the fuck up and move out. youre not some helpless angsty 16 year old. get a job, make sacrifices and own your life.
GillianSeed79
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This is gold Jerry.
Anyway, I feel for you. I relied on my parents to pay my way through college, so I understand the financial dependence. I think both you and your parents could learn from this situation, however. For starters, if EzLink's parents are listening, it's natural for young adults, especially those raised in conservative Christian families, to question their faith while they are young. Being an atheist doesn't automatically mean someone lacks morals. Just accept that your son is exploring his spirituality, or lack there of, in the same way one might convert to a different religion.
Secondly, accept that your son is going to imbibe in alcohol during college. If you have concerns about excessive drinking, by all means address that with your son. EzLink I will say I did my fair share of partying in college, but always remain focused on my studies. Simply going all out once you turn 21, especially for those who grew up in a restrictive household, can be a sure recipe for failure if you go overboard. By all means you are old enough to drink, but looking back, the binge drinking sessions I took part in college were rather studpid. Simply drink responsibly and get the newness of being able to purchase alcohol out of your system. As far as the marijuana, I don't know. I don't have any problems with recreational use, but like anything, when it's done in excess and you form a dependency on a substance it's time to cut back or quit. Thankfully, pot really isn't that addictive. While some will say it's a harmless, and I somewhat agree that it is, the potential consequences if you are caught should be something to take seriously and include probation, jail time, the loss of student loans or being kicked off campus. It's probably not worth it.
Lastly, GAF, is not a disgusting forum if EzLink's parents are listening. It's filled with intelligent, helpful, genuine people, many of whom are adult professionals and some who are even parents themselves. For comparison just visit 4chan and thank god your son found GAF first.
Aselith said:
We all use different things to help cope with stress. Alcohol is mine (used to be cigarettes). Whether it's substances we ingest, sex we have, or even less obvious stuff like spending too much time in the gym or in your workplace rather than dealing with life.
Pot is hardly the worst thing he could be doing to cope with stress. See Gaborn's post for reference. I've known people who go tanning when they are stressed out. If I was a parent I'd be more concerned at that, after-all the likelihood of health issues from burning the fuck out of yourself on a weekly basis is much higher than smoking weed.
It's great that my parents don't understand computers. :lol But I still refrain from posting some thing here just in case it comes back to bite me.
edit: But even though I think the parents are exaggerating a little bit GAF can be pretty bad and it has a pretty vocal anti-Christianity group.
edit: But even though I think the parents are exaggerating a little bit GAF can be pretty bad and it has a pretty vocal anti-Christianity group.
Nameless said:
It's also known for helping people fuck their shit up. I smoked a lot of weed in my time and I know plenty of people who went down that road.
Also, getting high and watching Half-Baked isn't exactly deep. I saw a lot more of that than Buddhist prayer circles amongst the tokers around my parts. Maybe you live in Tibet or whatever though.
I'm not saying there aren't functional potsmokers but they're not a majority (let me edit in here: amongst very frequent users.) I think a majority of smokers are occasional users. I wouldn't really consider those people potsmokers just pot users. Potsmoker is the dude who tokes up all the damn time.
wolfmat
Confirmed Asshole
My parents applaud diversity, discourse, conversation in general. They'd probably pat me on the back for what I posted in here, and would heartily recommend GAF to all my siblings.
Not that they have a say in anything I do. Just extrapolating from their behavior back when.
It must be hard to always have such a weight on your back.
Not that they have a say in anything I do. Just extrapolating from their behavior back when.
It must be hard to always have such a weight on your back.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
BTW If you didn't want you parents snooping you could have set your computer to sleep after a set time of inactivity and when it awakes you can have it go to the login screen where a password is required.
This thread seems really angry despite the OP's kinda cheerful tone. :lol
The invasion of privacy of part of your parents is pretty lame, but you should have locked your stuff down better. If you used GAF as a way to get things of your chest that you didn't want other to know then you should have put a password on your computer or, if you share it, your user account.
I don't get why some people here don't understand that EZlink would rather not move out so he doesn't have any financial headaches to worry about while he's in school. It's not like he can't smoke weed after he's done with College(or more realistically: on the down low).
And I just want you to know OP that at least 1 person read that whole thing.
You'll come back to GAF eventually, whether it be with your old face or a new one. You won't be able to resist the urge to post when you see something dumb/funny/outrageous posted, hah! I know I can't.
The invasion of privacy of part of your parents is pretty lame, but you should have locked your stuff down better. If you used GAF as a way to get things of your chest that you didn't want other to know then you should have put a password on your computer or, if you share it, your user account.
I don't get why some people here don't understand that EZlink would rather not move out so he doesn't have any financial headaches to worry about while he's in school. It's not like he can't smoke weed after he's done with College(or more realistically: on the down low).
And I just want you to know OP that at least 1 person read that whole thing.
You'll come back to GAF eventually, whether it be with your old face or a new one. You won't be able to resist the urge to post when you see something dumb/funny/outrageous posted, hah! I know I can't.
GillianSeed79
Member
siddx said:
While I agree with this, the consequences of getting caught as a college student with weed probably outweighs the relative harmlessness of its usage. Right or wrong, there are still laws against possessing weed. He lives on campus, so if he gets caught he would probably get kicked out of the dorm or worse. If he gets caught by the cops that could endanger any federal or state loans he has. If he were to get caught by the cops, he would probably be looking at probation as a first time offender, but if it was felony he could face jail time if his probation was revoked.
siddx said:
Yeah, I would be concerned if my kid tanned everyday or drank everyday or what have you. There is a point where you are doing too much of anything. Those three things it would be if you do it everday. Eating too much a day that's a problem. If you go to the gym too long everyday that's a problem. Obviously, you could go everyday but if you spend 4 hours everyday, it gets to be unhealthy, etc. I think at the point where you smoke everday, admit to it being a crutch and also that you are addicted, it's a problem. Don't you?
trying to imagine what would happen if my parents read gaf. i don't have many secrets posted here, but this place would be a hilarious culture shock to them.
godspeed ezlink, i wish you well and you will be missed, though you could try getting your username changed to a really common word so even if they find out what the name is gaf google searching for it would be useless.
godspeed ezlink, i wish you well and you will be missed, though you could try getting your username changed to a really common word so even if they find out what the name is gaf google searching for it would be useless.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Maybe so.. but the words "crutch" and "addicted" are just the kind of words I'd expect someone to apply to themselves after they've been brow-beaten by authority figures who are slanted against it.Aselith said:
To another person, someone who smokes every day (in the evening perhaps) is just another person's "daily cup of coffee" or "glass of wine".
GhaleonQ
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Gabyskra said:
I think that's the fundamental adult insight: never compromise on anything in life ever. Not after you've done a cost-benefit analysis. Not after you've considered collateral damage of decisions. Never give an inch and you'll be a content, successful, well-liked individual.
Nameless
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Come on dude. Let's be real here... The people on "that road" would have walked it had weed never existed. Weed enhances most experiences, including the lazy ones like watch tv, eating, gaming etc...But it doesn't create lazy people. Most of that BS is propaganda farted out some the same political sphincter as the "gateway drug" claims. Weed will also give you the best bike ride you've ever had and help you see physics in way you never have. Like most things in life it's what's you make of it.Aselith said:
I'd also argue that the average regular drinker is far more prevalent and far less dysfunctional, on average, than your average regular stoner.
El Sloth said:
OP: "Yeah I'm kinda in a bad financial position so I'm living with my parents, I love them and they mean well but they're old fashioned Christians and did some shady things to check on me because of their nature. We're at odds since they found my posts so I think I'm going to chill for a bit. Learn from my mistakes, lol! Thanks for the good time guys!"
GAF: "COMIENZA LA REVOLUCIóN"
OP: "Wait, what?"
:lol
BocoDragon said:
Except he wasn't brow-beaten because his parents didn't know about the potsmoking when he said he said that and he already called bullshit on all the DARE stuff. I used to smoke weed pretty much every weekend and I never said I was addicted because of being brow-beaten by authority figures.
Nameless said:
Someone has some memory problems. I already said his parents probably don't want an alcoholic OR a stoner for a son. Luckily, some people don't have to make the hard choice between the two so one being "better" than the other isn't really a strong arguement.
I don't claim that weed makes lazy people but it's still true that a depressed person using weed every day isn't going to suddenly snap out of it because now he's on the pots. Using anything as a crutch in your life will only deepen and worsen your condition. That's what he was talking about when he was "using it for the wrong reasons."
I'm not some naive grandma but I've seen several friends of mine who legit cannot stop weed even when they want to. I'm not prujudiced against weed but I realize there can be an addiction whether it's as addictive as x or as bad as x. It doesn't really fucking matter. Addicted is bad any way you slice it.
GillianSeed79
Member
BocoDragon said:
True, but if you get caught drinking a glass of wine or drinking a cup of coffee you don't face the possible loss of personal freedoms, rights, employment, students loans and/or face fines or jail time. I'm fairly confident saying that marijuana is no more harmful, and in fact far less harmful, than alcohol, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a prohibited substance in many states/countries. I think if you are going to use it, you have to accept those possible consequences until the laws are changed decriminalizing it, which likely won't happen in the US until, ironically, all the baby boomers die off.
Aselith said:
I'm not sure there is any statistical evidence that suggests smoking marijuana every day is more risky than smoking it semi regularly, though if you have some I'd be interested in it.
As for your second point, using it as a crutch THERE I agree. Any drug can be used responsibly or irresponsibly, and using it as an escape for general life problems is not an answer.
My post should not be confused with an endorsement of marijuana, it isn't one. Personally as I said I have no interest in the stuff. Instead I was just saying that the current science indicates marijuana is not particularly harmful. It can certainly be used in a harmful way, I don't think it should be a substitute for or take over your regular life.
I'd say the same about alcohol. I don't even think a person that drinks every day is unhealthy, but if they drink every day and get DRUNK every day because they can't cope with their life, that's a problem.
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