The death of EzLink (Or: So your Christian parents find your GAF account...)
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just noticed that.
you'll always be wmat to me.
also: OP's parents are a skilled bunch, and they aren't too demanding. hope he respects their rules under their roof. seems like a healthy thing they have going on there, and I don't think I get the bitterness in the thread either. but that's the internet for ya, full of strange and magnificent people.
you'll always be wmat to me.
also: OP's parents are a skilled bunch, and they aren't too demanding. hope he respects their rules under their roof. seems like a healthy thing they have going on there, and I don't think I get the bitterness in the thread either. but that's the internet for ya, full of strange and magnificent people.
Count Dookkake
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EzLink's parents are lol-worthy for the atheism tears and scorn-worthy for the snooping, but it's all his fault. Lock your shit up.
Dear EzLink's parents:
You guys are being ridiculous. Allow me to demonstrate this with a handy numbered list:
1. Marijuana is really not that bad. Much better than alcohol, health-wise, and like many others I don't smoke it myself.
2. Atheism is also not that bad. Matter of fact, it's completely neutral, in and of itself. As a matter of fact, for me, it's a good thing. I'd wager it's the same for your son. You can't force belief, and being honest about who you are is a big part of being happy. What sort of environment is in the house when your son feels he has to go to an anonymous message board to be himself?
3. You invaded your son's privacy. Illegal and, much more importantly, immoral. Sure, he was in the wrong for smoking pot when it was against your wishes, but you were in the wrong for snooping.
4. If you're reading this, stop. Talk to your son. Let him post whatever he wants online, and keep out of his bidness. Let him know you won't be watching over his shoulder, so that he can have this harmless outlet. Outlets are important. Let your little birdie fly.
With all due respect,
jdogmoney
As for the discussion about parental authority, there are limits. Willy105 and JGS, you both have the dubious distinction of continuously living up to your tags. Being someone's parent does not give one the authority to control every aspect of someone's life. The parents in this case obviously stepped over the line.
You guys are being ridiculous. Allow me to demonstrate this with a handy numbered list:
1. Marijuana is really not that bad. Much better than alcohol, health-wise, and like many others I don't smoke it myself.
2. Atheism is also not that bad. Matter of fact, it's completely neutral, in and of itself. As a matter of fact, for me, it's a good thing. I'd wager it's the same for your son. You can't force belief, and being honest about who you are is a big part of being happy. What sort of environment is in the house when your son feels he has to go to an anonymous message board to be himself?
3. You invaded your son's privacy. Illegal and, much more importantly, immoral. Sure, he was in the wrong for smoking pot when it was against your wishes, but you were in the wrong for snooping.
4. If you're reading this, stop. Talk to your son. Let him post whatever he wants online, and keep out of his bidness. Let him know you won't be watching over his shoulder, so that he can have this harmless outlet. Outlets are important. Let your little birdie fly.
With all due respect,
jdogmoney
As for the discussion about parental authority, there are limits. Willy105 and JGS, you both have the dubious distinction of continuously living up to your tags. Being someone's parent does not give one the authority to control every aspect of someone's life. The parents in this case obviously stepped over the line.
No they didn't. Kid shouldn't smoke pot in the house and should have manned up about his atheism a long time ago (Although I get why that's easier said than done). He shoulld thank non-God that his parents have been so understanding.jdogmoney said:
Good lord the advice in this thread has been ridiculously bad but understandable given the demographic and the lack of actual parenting skills. It's like the world if kids are running stuff. Scary.
Props still to EZLink for being the one person that actually understands his life and actually loving his brainwashed, criminal, liberty hating, fundy parents
lol j/k )Props to his parents for taking a stand for what they believe in rather than caving in to the stance of a bunch of young whippersnappers including their own son. This is how it should be.
Win/Win
Was that smarmy enough?
Fusebox said:
Why?
Why shouldn't their parents check their son's browsing history when they start to notice "something wrong" with him? They were worried, and they cared enough to not sit around and pretend nothing was happening to the son that lived with them.
Why can't parents tell their sons to do something? When you are grown, your parents still not have an ounce of authority over you, or do you cast them aside, despite they knowing more and having experienced more than you?
And why is them reacting the way they did AFTER THIS...
...wrong? After two years of not knowing that their son had radically different views than them and has been doing illegal actions behind their back? You could argue convincingly that they would have been wrong not doing these things after knowing about it.
And you too jdogmoney. You have explained your view on the subject that what EzLink did was not that bad in your opinion, but I believe the parents should have been able to do what they did.
It's a simile.Fusebox said:
The advice is kid like- as if the world revolves around their version of it. In reality, some of the posters may be deep in their thirties for all I know.
The OP has made it clear that he has accepted the terms laid out, but for some reason people think he's in a fundy gulag.
He isn't. He's fine.
And when he leaves the nest, that is exactly what it will be.wolfmat said:
What's hard to grasp about that? If my uncle is visiting my house for one day smoking pot (or tobacco), he's being kicked out, so why would I allow my kid, who I am smarter than no matter how much he thinks otherwise, to do whatever he wants in MY house? That's whacky.
wolfmat
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I disagree. He's old enough to make such mistakes as smoking weed to drown out the shit, and learn from them (or not, God forbid). He's old enough (and has been for at least 7 years) to choose his stance towards religion. He's old enough to post on GAF without his parents reading his every word and judging him.Willy105 said:
An intervention of such a magnitude is appropriate if someone really smashes their life systematically to pieces. Don't think that was the case here.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I think EzLink's made a pretty reasonable decision, all things considered. Not smoking weed for a few years is not exactly the end of the world. I don't get the sense that he's going to be going to religious revival ceremonies or consenting to drug counseling, so it's not as though he's deeply compromising his values for them. I mean, I understand that in an ideal world, every person ought to be able to make pretty much all of their own decisions at 21, but if his parents want him to make some relatively minor (in the long run) accommodations for them in order to keep supporting him financially (probably a good idea in this shitty economy), that's not too unrealistic. Sometimes in life you simply have to be pragmatic, and his parents are not 'crazy' for acting on beliefs that are likely founded off of information that they have been given their entire lives. They're IGNORANT, definitely, mainly regarding marijuana, which is demonstrably less harmful than alcohol, but ignorance and insanity are not the same thing. Conflation of the two is silly.
JGS: "my kid, who I am smarter than no matter how much he thinks otherwise" <-- This I do not agree with. I know plenty of people that are more intelligent than their parents; the parents might have more practical wisdom as a result of having more life experience, but intelligence (especially the fluid sort) need not be superior in a person merely by virtue of their being older. In fact, it can often by the opposite, as younger folks tend to be more open to learning things and to new experiences, whereas older folks often approach life with their already existent beliefs and ideas and refuse to look at things in a dynamic way.
JGS: "my kid, who I am smarter than no matter how much he thinks otherwise" <-- This I do not agree with. I know plenty of people that are more intelligent than their parents; the parents might have more practical wisdom as a result of having more life experience, but intelligence (especially the fluid sort) need not be superior in a person merely by virtue of their being older. In fact, it can often by the opposite, as younger folks tend to be more open to learning things and to new experiences, whereas older folks often approach life with their already existent beliefs and ideas and refuse to look at things in a dynamic way.
akachan ningen
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The most amazing part of this story is his parents just refuse to listen to reason. some people don't want to discuss anything. It's just YOU'RE WRONG, I'M RIGHT. Greatest generation my ass.
spiderman123
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Invading someone's privacy is wrong and I do understand their feelings on alcohol and marijuana. It's illegal so don't do it.
edit: there is high potential for abuse in both cases and that's what they're looking at. The atheism is aspect is just unjustified and misplaced. The parents are wrong on that one..
edit: there is high potential for abuse in both cases and that's what they're looking at. The atheism is aspect is just unjustified and misplaced. The parents are wrong on that one..
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
oh my god :lol :lol sorry it has to be at your expense, but YES, that shit is gold.EzLink said:
Please tell me you're a mild-mannered white family from Wisconsin or something. I just wanna make sure that confrontation was as hilarious as I imagined it to be.
I NEED SCISSORS
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Just change your name... oh and definitely move out.
WickedAngel
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spiderman123 said:
Alcohol is illegal?
akachan ningen said:
Baby Boomers aren't the Greatest Generation; they're the mistakes that the Greatest Generation shat out.
I really hope his parents do read this entire thread. Even better if they read it unbiased and with an open mind, because there are legitimate "Dear mom" responses here that I hope momma link doesn't gloss over because of those terrible, terrible swear words.
My contribution?
Dear EzLink's mom,
http://tinyurl.com/4fxrw5d
Also, you should know that EzLink was loved here for who he is, and your attempts to change someone who is clearly mature enough to make his own decisions in life, whether you agree with them or not, is you overstepping your role as a parent. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow? Let him and his decisions dictate his own life. And if you pick up anything from this thread, it's the fact that people loved him as an honest poster here.
Me personally, I'm too new to GAF to have "known" him well, but I certainly never remember him being a disrespectful poster on GAF.
Oh and one last thing, religious or not, you can't hate a brother for having physiological urges to slap a milk chocolaty ass. Every guy has that urge at times. Some more than others. So don't force restraint on a dude for being a dude.
My contribution?
Dear EzLink's mom,
http://tinyurl.com/4fxrw5d
Also, you should know that EzLink was loved here for who he is, and your attempts to change someone who is clearly mature enough to make his own decisions in life, whether you agree with them or not, is you overstepping your role as a parent. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow? Let him and his decisions dictate his own life. And if you pick up anything from this thread, it's the fact that people loved him as an honest poster here.
Me personally, I'm too new to GAF to have "known" him well, but I certainly never remember him being a disrespectful poster on GAF.
Oh and one last thing, religious or not, you can't hate a brother for having physiological urges to slap a milk chocolaty ass. Every guy has that urge at times. Some more than others. So don't force restraint on a dude for being a dude.
spiderman123
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WickedAngel said:
no wasn't talking bout the alcohol but the marijuana.
On the off chance that EZ Link's parents actually read this...
I remember being proud of him when he talked about waiting till Finals were over before smoking up. That is a sign of a guy with his priorities in order. MANY a lazy stoner has said ahh fuckit, I'll study later, only to completely screw up their Finals/grades. When someone can put the pot down for a bit and focus on their goals, that's someone who has it under control.
I have no doubt if EZ sets his mind to it he won't smoke the rest of his college career. Just cause you guys told him not to (threatened his whole future actually but whatever.)
Just know that he might end up resenting you for this. Is it worth it? Your kid doesn't even really have any problems, except for parents who are apparently snooping without even a reason to be suspecting anything (I'm assuming EZs grades were in order here.)
I remember being proud of him when he talked about waiting till Finals were over before smoking up. That is a sign of a guy with his priorities in order. MANY a lazy stoner has said ahh fuckit, I'll study later, only to completely screw up their Finals/grades. When someone can put the pot down for a bit and focus on their goals, that's someone who has it under control.
I have no doubt if EZ sets his mind to it he won't smoke the rest of his college career. Just cause you guys told him not to (threatened his whole future actually but whatever.)
Just know that he might end up resenting you for this. Is it worth it? Your kid doesn't even really have any problems, except for parents who are apparently snooping without even a reason to be suspecting anything (I'm assuming EZs grades were in order here.)
Simon Belmont
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I couldn't get past the fact that he's 21. This goes beyond parenting and straight into meddling if you ask me. Then again, my parents aren't incredibly lame.
TheKaeptain
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Dear Op's Parents,
Please don't see what he has said in the Gay relationship thread...
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Please don't see what he has said in the Gay relationship thread...
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I hope they look for hours and find nothing
SouthernDragon
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Unless he's hispanic.
Then his parents laugh at the notion of privacy.
Then his parents laugh at the notion of privacy.
spiderman123
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Fusebox said:
that why I said invasion of privacy is wrong, from my point of view a both the parents and EzLink were wrong. I don't want marijuana GAF biting my ass on this
edit: Wrong as in illegal just in case....
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
great now i wanna try weed.
TacticalFox88
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OK, I lost it at the part where you said you wanted to run. :lol
UltimaPooh
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shadowcomplex said:
CrushDance
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:lol W.T.F
biggyfries
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Good luck, OP.
Tell your parents that it is your actions that define you, not your beliefs. This is one of the things I don't understand about religious folk; if your god is so forgiving, then why can't you be?
I know you need to quit weed/alcohol, but at least visit this place once on a while.
Tell your parents that it is your actions that define you, not your beliefs. This is one of the things I don't understand about religious folk; if your god is so forgiving, then why can't you be?
I know you need to quit weed/alcohol, but at least visit this place once on a while.
JGS said:
Wow. So by this logic we have a constant downward trend in intelligence constantly because no children can ever be smarter than their parents right? I'm sure this may be true in your case judging by your posts, but some parents actually encourage their children to be themselves and question the world around them, not just blindly follow like some...
Also, why stop at just kicking your uncle out? Why not report him to the authorities too, after all it is illegal, and probably retarding your children's development to boot
though likely not as much as your god-like omniscience over them
Dont worry though, I blame your parents,not you, for most likely instilling these assbackwards ideologies in you. Now you're just continuing the cycle
@ OP: I think you made the right choice, Mary will always be there til the day you die. So bide your time and make the best of it while you can and when your financially independent of your parents you can do your own thing without constantly worrying. Keep that mind open to all avenues and Best of luck!
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
:lol :lol well done.UltimaPooh said:
Flying_Phoenix
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LosDaddie said:
This post nailed it.
It's your parents house not yours.
Really OP? I will admit I skipped most of the last couple pages, so if the situation has changed, disregard this. I'm sort of conflicted. Part of me says you are 21, you should be able to make your own decisions in these things. The other part of me says you obviously can't since you have bowed to parental authority and still live at home. Hope all goes well, regardless.
:lolUltimaPooh said:
ChefRamsay said:
:lol What the fuck? weed has not ruined my life. In fact, it has helped me through a shit ton of rough times. It has helped me think through things in healthy ways, and has given me genuine joy and happiness during periods where I wasn't getting that from any other source. You can be psychologically addicted to ANYTHING. Food, work, video games, television, exercise, etc.
:lol I got The Shield boxset for Christmas, and thinking of it as a "Vic Mackey" tackle made me crack up :lolYoungHav said:
DJ_Tet said:Ahhh man, someone posted this on OA but I couldn't find it here. So sad to find out it's a guy in the weed thread I liked
Just remember, when you finish college and can tell your parents to fuck off, that MFLB has a lifetime warranty. They will send you another one
Wait what? What is OA and why was this posted there? And while the MFLB does have a lifetime warranty, everything was thrown out, paperwork and all. I have no proof that I ever owned it. It's okay though, I won't mind spending another $90 on it when the time comes. Well worth the price and those dudes deserve the money for making such a genuinely excellent product and having such great customer service. And thanks for the kind words
Mild-mannered white family from IL :lolCatalix said:
Hey thanks. I'm majoring in Public Relations, so I'll have to be doing a lot of writing for that. Appreciate the encouragementJinaar said:Just want to say how well written the OP was. Regardless of your troubles and revelations, continue on writing, you may be onto something for yourself here.
If this story inspires one more person to try the miracle plant that is marijuana, then it was all worth it. Once you get over the paranoia stage, weed basically becomes a life enhancer. Almost everything you do while high becomes significantly more enjoyableshadowcomplex said:
Again I will reiterate, GAF is awesome. I genuinely appreciate the kind words and different perspectives so far. Thanks
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