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The death of EzLink (Or: So your Christian parents find your GAF account...)

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MIMIC

Banned
Um, dude. I don't think it's a good idea for you to start posting under my account. Your parents are sure to find out sooner or later.

Heh, but seriously your family sounds really great for the most part; you stress that you all aren't really all that bad even after they raided your laptop and forbade you from smoking weed. I think the problem is that parents are always going to think of their children as....well, they're little children, especially since you're still living at home. I'm 25 and still at home (I have enough money to get out on my own but life is so cozy here :lol). I finished college in 2009--and lived at school, away from home, thank God--and I'm not sure how I've survived coming back home. I had a social awakening away from home (since my high school was so small and since none of my good friends even lived in my city--we met in extracurriculars) but the social wane that occurred when I got back home wasn't as bad as I thought.

But despite the huge amount of respect that you have for your parents, I think that it might be time to move out. As other posters have mentioned, you can't even freely use a video game forum without arousing their suspicion. My dad gets on my case about playing video games too much (and sometimes he's right, damn him :lol) but he's never tried to forbid me from playing them.

And in a way, I think it kinda sucks how your Christian upbringing has succumbed to all-out atheism. I'm kinda the same way: raised as a devout Christian, expressing some doubts about the Bible, etc. I still believe in God though, but maybe not the full-throttle "hallelujah, amen!" anymore. I figure that God and science both exist and that one doesn't exactly disprove the other. Maybe Christianity will just be something I always cling to. It's not making me a worse person; I'm not out proselytizing, demonizing gays or rejecting evolution or anything.

But like I said: it's time for you to move out. But if you honestly don't mind still staying with your folks.....that's fine, too. But if you find yourself seriously considering getting out on your own, do it. As soon as possible.

I'd also like to emphasize that I'm glad that you respect your parents. PARENTS ARE GOING TO BE PARENTS and if they aren't molesting you or beating you or anything like that, they're just doing what they think is right for you.

And BECAUSE parents are going to be parents, it gets to be that time to when your views clash too often and you have to leave.
 
EzLink said:
Guys, stop calling me spineless :lol I'm not changing who I am. The only thing I'm forced to change is my weed smoking. I'm still gonna be boozin and partying and swearing and not believing in God, all the while treating all other humans with respect and kindness. Just as it has been the past couple of years

The only reason I'm not going to continue on as EzLink is because I used this account to be open about myself and my life. I've posted some embarrassing things on here, I've posted about illegal things I've done on here (SHROOOOOOMS!), and I don't want to have to always be concerned that my parents will be reading everything I would post from here on out. Of course they aren't FORCING ME TO QUIT GAF, that would be ludicrous :lol They only thing they are FORCING me to do is give up weed.

And yes, I meant everything I've said about my parents in this thread. They are great people. I'm alone in my college dorm right now, they aren't controlling the content of this thread or anything absurd like that :lol I think some of you just don't comprehend how truly ingrained religious beliefs are in devout followers. They think all drugs are bad, disbelief in the Bible sends you to hell, and that parents have a responsibility to "protect" their children until they are fully out on their own. You know where they get all of these beliefs? The Bible! This is why I don't blame them so much as I blame religion as a whole. As I said, I can relate since I used to believe it just as fervently as them

And I'll still browse GAF, possibly even have an alt. account. But I couldn't reveal my true identity, as there is always a chance they will see it and go through and read everything else I'm posting as a new member. It has less to do with me "changing my life" in accordance with their policies, and more to do with the fact that there is still shit I won't want my parents reading from me and I want to take precautions to avoid further unnecessary stress on the home front
So then this whole post isn't really necessary? Just stop being melodramatic and get your user name changed.
 
Forgive the crudeness. I kind of rushed it.


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Edit: I didn't even connect the wires on the PC. :lol
 

WillyFive

Member
FINE-LINE said:
I also like how Gaf Mom thinks that Gaf is disgusting.
I for one would be glad I didnt find my kid posting on truely disgusting sites like stormfront.org, 4chan or god forbid 7chan.

There's always a bigger fish. But it doesn't make the fish small.

NeoGAF isn't exactly rated G.
 
Gabyskra said:
I'm serious. I hope your daughter is a screamer, you deserve to be taught a lesson on how to let your kid have a life.


You're an idiot and need to grow up. What are you, 5?

His daughter will have whatever kind of life she wants, when she grows up and gets her own place. In the meantime, I'm sure, that unlike you, she will respect her father's wishes while living under his roof and not behave like the childish and spoiled brat that you appear to be.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
FINE-LINE said:
I also like how Gaf Mom thinks that Gaf is disgusting.
I for one would be glad I didnt find my kid posting on truely disgusting sites like stormfront.org, 4chan or god forbid 7chan.

Have you seen the S.Gomez thread?

Internet forums are probably foreign to his parents, let alone the crazy ones like 4chan & stormfront.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
GhaleonQ said:
Since it would come out anyway, yes? But only because it's extremely important to them. If my dad was an alcoholic and didn't want me to drink but I drank in college, I'd tell him so that he wouldn't have a heart attack and fret for hours and be on my back about being responsible. This doesn't mean that I'd need to disclose that I told an off-color joke to my friends.

It's the healthiest thing to do and creates a lot less tension than the alternative. Plus, YOU get to set the boundaries of conversation because you get to plan what to open the conversation with once it starts. Part of the backfire occurred because EzLink wasn't prepared.

If my parents had a strong belief about certain activities and beliefs, then that would actually be a great incentive for me to never tell them about it.

It's actually respectful in many cases to be discrete about potential points of conflict.

For example, if I am in close proximity to a religious person who dislikes atheism, it actually creates social harmony to never disclose my atheism. Declaring my atheism is like saying "I think everything you believe in is WRONG and I may be a member of a group you dislike... but I hope you still accept me?". Well it's a little like launching an attack on them by telling the truth. I would not volunteer the information on our would-be area of conflict, because I want peace with them.

Why start a potential fight? Why presume you need to stop a conflict that is somehow inevitable? Most parents wouldn't snoop through your private discussions on the internet. If it was inevitable that he'd be "caught", then so be it. He was right to cross that bridge when he got to it. He didn't need to play wannabe Richard Dawkins or Pot Activist and bring it up himself, just to prevent a conflict that should have never come along. If they want to bring up their own charges against him, that's their own (misguided) business.
 

JGS

Banned
BocoDragon said:
If you think that's a good way to raise kids, more power to you.

I'm going to respect my kids' individuality and give them a reasonable degree of privacy... I'll see how that works out.
He's 21. It has nothing to do with raising him. They already failed or succeeded at that.

It has to do with respecting his parents' house. If they don't want him to smoke pot in the house, then dadnabbit he better not be smoking pot in the house. You can be as bad a parent as you want to be in that regard, but it's silly to call his parents harsh for being concerned about their kid.

By the end they are accepting of his atheism and his pot smoking. He has some of the cooler parents on the block.
 

Deadly

Member
I can understand the drug-using part in terms of a parents POV. I mean I'd be pretty worried if my kids would be taking pot every single day too even if I know that it's kind of harmless. I mean sure getting high is fun occasionally but when it's everyday, there's got to be some more profound reason.

Also, I can see why you want to stay with your parents for now because of them supporting you financially (and I hear tuition in the US is fucking expensive too). However, them going through your things and everything? That's pretty bad, like everyone else has said, you're an adult now and they should respect you're choices or either understand why or try to convince you otherwise and not set their minds that it's useless to talk to you.

If ever EzLink's parents read this: I can understand your reactions but EzLink seems very open minded and an intelligent person and would gladly accept arguments against his choices but thinking that his mind is set and everything is "futile" is simply ridiculous.
 

Gabyskra

Banned
That thread made me recheck an old website I remembered as being ultra gross, Stileproject... well it has become your average porn tube site, only with some dirtier stuff. It used to be so gore.
 

EzLink

Banned
Router said:
So your parents are not forcing you to leave GAF. So what's the point of this whole thread then man? Change your username or setup a new account and put a password on your laptop.


The fucking gigantic op you wrote seems like you don't want to leave. So what's the point of all this then?
Jesus man, nobody forced you to participate in the thread :lol I was telling a story because GAF was a huge aspect of it. There can be other reasons for leaving GAF other than "my parents are forcing me to quit!" (which they aren't). I've articulated these reasons several times. I'll still lurk, maybe alt. account, but even with a new username I'm not going to say I was previously EzLink. So essentially it will be starting from the beginning. Not trying to suggest that I was well known here, but after two years of regular posting every member has SOME sort of group that knows about them. I'm kind of sad to lose that, and I wanted to make a final thread about everything

CabbageRed said:
Actually, doing this:

"try to balance getting a full time job with my incredibly heavy workload this year"

would be working on yourself. Choosing to sacrifice some of the dignity that you, as an adult, should hold dear is just taking the easy way out and wallowing in stagnation (great for curing depression, no doubt). My hat's off to you and your parents. May you live gelatinously ever after.
Different strokes for different folks man. I'm a communication major, I love interacting with people. I place a much higher value on going to parties and having fun with people while I still can vs. having zero free time to learn strict time management and discipline. And I'm not going to be "wallowing in stagnation". Have a lot of personal goals this year that I'm going to be working hard on

Ultimoo said:
Tell me you've at least added a password on the laptopand enabled removing internet history every time you close your browner, please. And if you're scared of your parents reading your posts on your alt, like I said, get an IP ban from one of the admins, it's really not that hard. You're making a huge deal out of a problem that is easily solvable and will let you to continue browsing GAF. :p
Oh yeah, after the first night I started logging out of my desktop. They only were going through my actual laptop for an hour or so, and no one will ever do it again (I will always log out now!). They just found everything from GAF via google search
 

Alucrid

Banned
EzLink said:
Jesus man, nobody forced you to participate in the thread :lol I was telling a story because GAF was a huge aspect of it. There can be other reasons for leaving GAF other than "my parents are forcing me to quit!" (which they aren't). I've articulated these reasons several times. I'll still lurk, maybe alt. account, but even with a new username I'm not going to say I was previously EzLink. So essentially it will be starting from the beginning. Not trying to suggest that I was well known here, but after two years of regular posting every member has SOME sort of group that knows about them. I'm kind of sad to lose that, and I wanted to make a final thread about everything


Different strokes for different folks man. I'm a communication major, I love interacting with people. I place a much higher value on going to parties and having fun with people while I still can vs. having zero free time to learn strict time management and discipline. And I'm not going to be "wallowing in stagnation". Have a lot of personal goals this year that I'm going to be working hard on


Oh yeah, after the first night I started logging out of my desktop. They only were going through my actual laptop for an hour or so, and no one will ever do it again (I will always log out now!). They just found everything from GAF via google search

Are you trying to live with them longer?
 

Davidion

Member
Lionel Mandrake said:
Hello EZLink's parents. I am one of the more 'conservative' GAF members here. I don't partake in any illegal substances, and I still practice Christianity, albeit a bit casually, as I haven't attended church in quite some time. So, I would like to take the opportunity to reach out to you in a level-headed and respectful manner, as opposed to the outrage and mockeries you are likely to experience. It's likely that you won't even see this post, as I expect that this thread is going to be VERY active, but hey, it's worth a shot.

I happen to live in the Bible Belt and was raised by a family that I would assume is likely similar in your beliefs. However, one thing that they would not do is spy on me, and invade my privacy. I know you're thinking "We're his parents, we have to protect our son!" But the thing is... He's 21. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, he is a responsible adult and is in charge of his own life. "My house, my rules!" I understand that sentiment. I don't really know the situation, but I'm assuming that EZLink does not have the resources to move out just yet. But I don't feel that you should punish him for that. I'm flat broke and living at home, and my parents have been incredibly patient and supportive with me. It means a lot of difference. If they were constantly pressuring me about "my way or the highway," I know I would be considerably more stressed, and I know that it certainly wouldn't help with any forms of depression. I don't mean to criticize, but in my opinion, you handled the situation poorly. I don't think you're "insane" like some other people here, but I do believe that you made some significant mistakes.

Well, that's really all I wanted to say, so goodbye, EZLink. Hope you're happy with whatever happens.

Certainly one of the more level-headed posts in this thread.

As for the OP, regardless of what happens, keep a positive attitude about yourself and maybe we'll see you back here.
 

GhaleonQ

Member
BocoDragon said:
If my parents had a strong belief about certain activities and beliefs, then that would actually be a great incentive for me to never tell them about it.

It's actually respectful in many cases to be discrete about potential points of conflict.

For example, if I am in close proximity to a religious person who dislikes atheism, it actually creates social harmony to never disclose my atheism. Declaring my atheism is like saying "I think everything you believe in is WRONG and I may be a member of a group you dislike... but I hope you still accept me?". Well it's a little like launching an attack on them by telling the truth. I would not volunteer the information on our would-be area of conflict, because I want peace with them.

Why start a potential fight? Why presume you need to stop a conflict is inevitable? Most parents wouldn't snoop through your private discussions on the internet. If it was inevitable that he'd be "caught", then so be it. He was right to cross that bridge when he got to it. He didn't need to play wannabe Richard Dawkins or Pot Activist and bring it up himself, just to prevent a conflict that should have never come along. If they want to bring up their own charges against him, that's their own (misguided) business.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see your point of view on this. Whether they do full disclosure or none is probably a judgment call. His parents seem well-meaning if unskilled, so I think my call would have been better this time. I get your point.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
GhaleonQ said:
Don't get me wrong, I definitely see your point of view on this. Whether they do full disclosure or none is probably a judgment call. His parents seem well-meaning if unskilled, so I think my call would have been better this time. I get your point.
Cool.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Lionel Mandrake said:
Forgive the crudeness. I kind of rushed it.


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Edit: I didn't even connect the wires on the PC. :lol[/QUOTE]
Don't quit your dayjob.
 

Suairyu

Banned
EZlink -

Your parents absolutely have the right to stop you doing pot. Anyone telling you that you're a coward for taking that shit is wrong. Their house, their rules.

What they don't have is the right to go through your computer history. That is actually illegal, and they are hypocrites over the drug thing for doing this. It actually carries a heavier sentence than possession of small doses of weed. No joke. If the issue ever comes up again, remind them of this.

They don't sound like bad people at heart, but they are extremely bad people in practice right now. They've essentially forced you to separate yourself from a bunch of friends. Think about it.
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
EzLink said:
Jesus man, nobody forced you to participate in the thread :lol I was telling a story because GAF was a huge aspect of it. There can be other reasons for leaving GAF other than "my parents are forcing me to quit!" (which they aren't). I've articulated these reasons several times. I'll still lurk, maybe alt. account, but even with a new username I'm not going to say I was previously EzLink. So essentially it will be starting from the beginning. Not trying to suggest that I was well known here, but after two years of regular posting every member has SOME sort of group that knows about them. I'm kind of sad to lose that, and I wanted to make a final thread about everything


Whatever. I came into this thread rooting for you. The more you post the more bizarre it gets. So whatever. Good luck.
 
To be honest, some of the language used (particularly) in regards to the OP is shameful when you consider that they browse the forum and have a very negative impression of it so far. The reaction isn't surprising and I think the OP should have been aware of the ramifications of his parents reading a thread based on them
 

EzLink

Banned
Suairyu said:
EZlink -

Your parents absolutely have the right to stop you doing pot. Anyone telling you that you're a coward for taking that shit is wrong. Their house, their rules.

What they don't have is the right to go through your computer history. That is actually illegal, and they are hypocrites over the drug thing for doing this. It actually carries a heavier sentence than possession of small doses of weed. No joke. If the issue ever comes up again, remind them of this.

They don't sound like bad people at heart, but they are extremely bad people in practice right now. They've essentially forced you to separate yourself from a bunch of friends. Think about it.
Is it really? I actually had no idea of that. But, at the same time, they bought my laptop (even though they have never used it) so I guess they could technically claim ownership.

Router said:
Whatever. I came into this thread rooting for you. The more you post the more bizarre it gets. So whatever. Good luck.
I'm not trying to be rude to you dude, but if you think this thread is unnecessary you don't have to waste your time with it. And I'm not sure how it's getting "more bizarre". If anything I'm just clarifying some stuff, not really much else
 

EzLink

Banned
Meus Renaissance said:
To be honest, some of the language used (particularly) in regards to the OP is shameful when you consider that they browse the forum and have a very negative impression of it so far. The reaction isn't surprising and I think the OP should have been aware of the ramifications of his parents reading a thread based on them
I asked in the OP for people to be nice and not badmouth them, and I expressed how much I love and care for them. The internet is the internet though, so whatever. I know they are great people, they know they are great people, it doesn't really matter if some stranger they will never meet has a negative opinion of them
 
Just keep posting, and tell your parents you are going to keep posting, and if they really want to know what their grown ass son is doing, they can keep reading. Just let em know that you will continue to be honest, that they are going to be uncomfortable, and that you consider it a violation of your privacy.

Hell, they have already been though it already, what else do they have to read?
 

WillyFive

Member
Davidion said:
This thread seems strangely angry and bitter, and it's not by the OP. :lol

This thread could be a gold mine for psychologists.

I was horrified by the responses here, but then it came upon me that maybe they weren't just trolling, but that they actually believe what they said.

*looks up at the NeoGAF logo*

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JGS

Banned
EzLink said:
Is it really? I actually had no idea of that. But, at the same time, they bought my laptop (even though they have never used it) so I guess they could technically claim ownership.
:lol
Actually, it may still be illegal for them to look at your info. However, your parents are way too cool to have arrested.
 
I can sympathize with the OP on the "Christian parents learning you're a filthy stoner" aspect. I started smoking when I first moved out, but had to move back home for a number of reasons (finances, mostly), and my parents eventually found out I'd become a fan of the ganja.

They of course disapproved, and I got the "my house, my rules, no pot" speech. I abided by the rule, but felt that I was an adult and should be able to smoke outside of their house on my own. They felt otherwise, and so I left home again; not really on the best of terms, but it didn't ruin my relationship with my parents, either.

It sucked at the time, but it's not the end of the world.
 

mr jones

Ethnicity is not a race!
1st.

Hats off to your parents in having the internet browsing skill to find your posts. I'm seriously impressed.

2nd.

You were living under your parents' roof, rent free, at 20-21 years old. As much of a downer that it may sound, they do get to dictate what goes on in their house. You're free to leave if you feel otherwise. The fact that you're smoking an illegal* substance in their home was disrespectful, and is a pretty good reason for them to be concerned about you, especially since I'm pretty sure that they've told you that they'd prefer that you didn't do that in their house.

3rd.

Kudos to stepping up and choosing school over pot. Considering that you're fortunate to have parents that can pay your way, I'd say it was a great idea to comply with their demands.

4th.

I hope that when you do decide to be independent from your parents, that they respect your beliefs and choices. My parents are islamic; I am not. My mother has never given me grief over that, and I love her for it.

5th.

Hi EzLink's mom and dad! :D

6th.

Good luck, EzLink.
 

bengraven

Member
I've only read the first few lines and I already know this is going to be epic. Does GAF still archive the great threads? Can we get an early archive?
 

mr jones

Ethnicity is not a race!
ConfusingJazz said:
Just keep posting, and tell your parents you are going to keep posting, and if they really want to know what their grown ass son is doing, they can keep reading. Just let em know that you will continue to be honest, that they are going to be uncomfortable, and that you consider it a violation of your privacy.

Hell, they have already been though it already, what else do they have to read?

Y'know, that's not a bad idea. Sort of turns GAF into his own personal Twitter.
 
EzLink said:
I asked in the OP for people to be nice and not badmouth them, and I expressed how much I love and care for them. The internet is the internet though, so whatever. I know they are great people, they know they are great people, it doesn't really matter if some stranger they will never meet has a negative opinion of them

Your participation on this forum has obviously impacted the sensitivities of your beloved parents hard enough to increase their anxieties over your development; they are worried and although you fundamentally disagree with them you also have the advantage to understand their concern. The forum, to them, has perhaps become your fortress of solitude and they may feel that it gives them a better insight into your thoughts. You elicited a response from GAF and I somehow doubt the responses will shock them, but I fear that they may associate those with you and misinterpret your intentions with such a thread
 

Weenerz

Banned
Just think, if you had just password protected your stupid computer, none of this shit would have happened. Also, you should move out before your crazy parents brainwash you with Jesus.
 

mr jones

Ethnicity is not a race!
Davidion said:
This thread seems strangely angry and bitter, and it's not by the OP. :lol

Huh. After reading through a few pages, you have a point. Wow. How many of y'all live with your parents?
 

wolfmat

Confirmed Asshole
Hello, EzLink's parents.

What you're experiencing is the same stuff you guys went through yourselves when you grew up. Just think back what you did as tweens. What is it, sneaking out of the house, drinking with the guys, yelling at your own parents when you felt like you were mistreated? We all experienced that in the exact same timeframe.

It's good that you're concerned folks, young dudes need some guidance now and again. And whatever GAF says is one thing, but the danger of recurring drug use, no matter what the substance, is a real danger. So what you did is remind your son, and while he may become a stoner eventually after this thing is through, at least he will always remember the warnings of his mother, and not make the next step at some point. Hopefully.

But you have to see that hovering over a young adult is an attempt at chaining him to your house. Give him the freedom of choice he deserves as a human being. That particularly includes religious stances. Your pastor won't reach him, and that's got nothing to do with Satan. He's not that kind of person. If you hold that against him, you're not fair, and it doesn't help anyone in the end.

Back off regarding the privacy breaches. That is just wrong. If we can believe what he says, he's not on heroin or having orgies with random people. He's just a free spirit. You should sympathize with that since you yourselves once were there.

Take a step back and look at yourselves for a change. You're doing your son a disservice because you can't handle that he's not the perfect little warrior you want him to be. When you look at him though, recognize that his utmost respect for you guys is evident, he's an honest soul, he seems to have a sharp mind.

Particularly, be thankful for the fact that he's connected with thousands of crazy people over the internet. We are very polite, honest, hard-working people around here (for the most part), and although you may not read it like that, we're a positive force for a lot of folks. We discuss issues like depression, isolation, failure and so forth always with the one thought in mind that we want to help whoever's asking. And as it turns out, people need that kind of help.

I'm not going to speak about myself here, but let's just say that I also have occasionally gained something from GAF. Needless to say, since I'm an atheist, it's more than I can say for God. So we all have our little sanctuaries in the world. Don't try to force yours onto EzLink, just as he's not trying to force you guys to become atheists and internet forum users.

In short, the kid's not doomed, he's actually pretty cool. Concentrate on being supportive rather than destructive. Help him find his way, don't shove him down some way you think is right. He's not really a kid anymore after all. A man has to clear his path by himself. There's no two ways about it.

And I'm not particularly into the stuff, but anyway, please educate yourselves about marijuana. You're old enough to figure that part out.

Have a good one!
 

Nameless

Member
A fallen Weed-GAF soldier. :( Ez-Link you made me proud with your attempt at a smash & dash for your Grass. :lol

But dude, life is too short to let anyone, including your parents, force you into living it in anyway but the way you yourself deem fit. They are your parents but you don't owe them a damn thing. That's not to say you don't appreciate all they've done for you, but you didn't demand or even ask to be here. You certainly didn't ask to have your head filled with silly ideas you had to painfully "un-learn" yourself. I understand conforming to "their house their rules", but I see no reason to alter your lifestyle completely at their behest--certainly not outside of their space.

Good luck in whatever you decide. And if this is truly the end I'm going to smoke such a bowl for you that it will be worthy of remembrance.
 
So according to this thread you are only abiding by your parents wishes so you can continue to get 'tens of thousands' in tuition money?

Yeah, your parents are fucking idiots. Yeah, you are just using them. Yeah, it is probably better than getting kicked out and not being able to afford going to classes(trust me, I know).

It is a shame that our parents cannot accept us for who we are. My mother was the same way. Simply refused to hear an opinion that differed from hers.

Not that I need to, but whenever I am done on the computer, I simply hit the Windows key + L to logout of my user. Could have saved you a huge headache.
 
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