Dubbedinenglish
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I'm severely disappointed in the lack of representation of underwear models in this lineup.
The Democratic National Convention OT |2016|: The One With the Policy
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jack_package_200
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Must be nice to be a straight white male and not affected by the GOP winning the presidency.
yanipheonu
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And yet forcing someone to vote against their will is not how democracy should work. Conscientious abstinence from voting seems a logical choice for some.
Though if you must, seriously consider that a) you're almost always choosing the lesser of two evils in these elections anyways, and b) if you're throwing your vote away, at least go the poles and give some third party some support.
Is it a double stuff Oreo or one of those warm soft chocolate chip ones? If so, then yes please.
I intend to vote 3rd party. Throwing away my vote, but still exercising my right to do so.
that's one hell of an effigy
Eaten By A Grue
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Dubbedinenglish
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Michelle should come out in Melania's dress.
My wish would be for a convention focused on sober self introspection and trying to assure voters their commitment to not taking their constituents for granted in regards to policy with a seriousness one should expect for a country in such turmoil.
Unfortunately, my realistic guess is that it'll be a circlejerk of self congratulation by those who were already assured they could do whatever they wanted from the start without repercussion and get their vetted pick in the white house, throwing red meat out about the GOP's burning clown car at every turn.
Maybe i'll pay attention to what Bernie says, see what his best sell job might be on the status quo, even knowing a huge problem with the system is the establishment figures that he railed directly against for many months in the same room he's delivering the speech.
Unfortunately, my realistic guess is that it'll be a circlejerk of self congratulation by those who were already assured they could do whatever they wanted from the start without repercussion and get their vetted pick in the white house, throwing red meat out about the GOP's burning clown car at every turn.
Maybe i'll pay attention to what Bernie says, see what his best sell job might be on the status quo, even knowing a huge problem with the system is the establishment figures that he railed directly against for many months in the same room he's delivering the speech.
Eyemus Lutt
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Not from the US, so can anyone explain in simple terms what all the wiki leaks emails about the Democrats are and why did one lady quit or not appearing anymore?
eBay Huckster
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the appearance of bias moreso than the actual execution of biased policy (which is still an enormous fuckup), and she got forced out by obama, clinton and sanders likely due to her emails included in the leak
Fine Ham Abounds
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She should just give Melania's speech while wearing a MLP costume
Well, more like a lot of the DNC members and Obama.
Clinton now has her as honorary chair of her campaign.
eBay Huckster
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that was the pound of flesh enacted to get her the hell away from the DNC - it's an "honorary" chair for a reason
Some DNC prople, including one kind of high up guy talked about sabotaging Sanders in April. The plan didn't go through, but it still looks bad. DAS was gonna be replaced anyhow, so she's taking the fall.
Eyemus Lutt
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So Clinton wasn't directly involved, but she was helped by those who were trying to sabotage Sanders?
eBay Huckster
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well, "helped" implies that these staffers actually did much more than the professional equivalent of a facebook group chat for shit-talking (particularly since the most egregious things in here - like the CFO's musings on weaponizing atheism - got shitcanned directly by her campaign), but unironically let's go with that
They don't appear to have actually done anything.
Clinton was definitely helped by the millions of Democrats who went out of their way to sabotage Sanders's campaign by voting for her instead.
I can't stand it I know you planned it
He should be. And prime time.
eBay Huckster
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yep, he's speaking on wednesday night
No they are saying they don't trust either candidates vision of the future, which is what hillary and the DNC need to be worrying about instead of shitty VP picks.
PlayALLtheGames
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Always an advantage to see the RNC first and know what you're up against. By most objective measures it was kind of a fail and extremely negative. Dems will counter accordingly.
Yep. It is frustrating, and their logic makes no sense to me and never will. But, as you said, the same arguments are made over and over again. If they want to change their minds the information is out there. So yeah, all that ends up happening is threads derailing and minds not being changed any way because now they feel they are on the defensive. I don't like it but I had already made up my mind if somebody says they are voting 3rd party, I wouldn't respond. At least they are not voting for Trump.
QuantumZebra
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Clinton wasn't directly involved, and while some DNC people planned attacks on Sanders none of them appear to have been implemented and higher ups basically shut them down.
Also IIRC the timing of the emails was April/May, during the period where Sanders was hitting his "The system is rigged" message the hardest.
aspiegamer
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It's a shame we had no RNC emails. Imagine all the drunk rants from Reince begging for ideas on how to stop Trump. Even email during last week must have been awesome.
This is extremely random, but this song is musical salad. It's the seductive sax equivalent of EDM. It's like they took parts of the song, threw them together in a hat, and picked them out in a random order. It's all interchangeable and there are like 12 total bars of music.
She's an old hand at this by now.
People are as adamant of advocating their right to throw out their vote as others are adamant of advocating their right for guns or anything really. Some people get buried in the principle of things, which is frustrating when looking at the other side.
A vote for 3rd party is better than a vote for trump for sure.
eBay Huckster
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a vote for clinton's better than a vote for a third party, because even in her nightmare foreign policy case most of this shit still gets implemented
BotoxAgent
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Haha, the fix was in since Super Tuesday
Sirpopopop
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People aren't responding to convince these people of the validity of their opinions.
People are responding to ensure that others who might be leaning that way (disgust with Trump & Hillary) re-examine their positions.
I think it's a crucial difference.
hodayathink
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And, IIRC, she's quite politically active. I think she was actually campaigning for Clinton in Nevada during the primaries.
Velcro Fly
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Have a feeling phrases like "vote for the platform" are going to be common by November.
andthebeatgoeson
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Becky with the Good Policy.
Or
Becky with the Good Heir.
Or
Becky with the Good Heir.
eBay Huckster
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eight and a half hours left until the first gavel, i guess
Ether_Snake
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Having DWS opening and closing the DNC would be really stupid.
Isn't Gary Johnson going to pull more republicans from trump than dems anyway? I just don't understand how someone that backed Bernie could back libertarianism, but I suppose that's another topic for another day.
Fwiw I'm hoping for some good party unity this week. Sanders is gonna tell us all to vote for Hillary. Then Michelle, then Billy, then Barry and Joe. If that isn't enough to get people to not back Trump, I don't know what is.
No way this shit is as disgusting as the RNC right? Please?
If anyone cares, these are all the protests which got permits from the city. Looks like there's a Trump supporters rally tomorrow lol...
https://alpha.phila.gov/news/mayor/convention-demonstration-permit-requests/
https://alpha.phila.gov/news/mayor/convention-demonstration-permit-requests/
There's gonna be a Hillary mock trial lmao
Also "Candelight Vigil to Commemorate the Death of Democracy" sounds like a fun time
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