Bruno
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Yeah mostly in those areas. I just make a giant loop and check all of them while doing some PvP in between and occasionally change servers to recheck the vendors.
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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again
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Yeah mostly in those areas. I just make a giant loop and check all of them while doing some PvP in between and occasionally change servers to recheck the vendors.
eman4ever
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I don't know if this is old or not but when i logged into the ubisoft club website it says I obtained the Division badge for playing it, but I also received a club reward. Is it known if we will get a special item for playing the beta like the xbox people got the gun for playing the alpha? If so what is the beta reward?!
PedroLumpy
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Yeah, this is no longer feasible for a fresh level 8. All the people trying to grind up now are going up against people who literally, and I'm not exaggerating, have twice their health and damage. There's just no way.
It's one of the reasons I'll wait for a price drop on the game. I feel that if I get it at launch while I can't play non stop the first few week it will come out I'll be stuck against much more powerful players.
HalfBakedProphet
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Some of the players are rogue like 90% of the time. Take those idiots that treat the Dark Zone like deathmatch and put them in their own idiot matches against other idiots gta online style
Dark zone would become a much better experience
Dark zone would become a much better experience
Cabbagehead
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You won't though, the dark zone is level instanced.
There will be no 20 vs 8 level encounters. An once you're level 8 you'll be against other level 8's, plus Massive mentioned that more then a few guns that are showing up now for the beta are really higher level weapons brought down. For the beta only.
Beta currently has two DZ matchmaking brackets. Level 4-7 and level 8. You get put into one out of those two based on your level gained in doing PvE / Story stuff outside of DZ.
DZ level / "rank" seems to only affect what quality of gear you are allowed to purchase, and is extra check on top of your Story gained level. Basically idea is that "Now you that have done 20 levels worth of helping outside of DZ now give us a hand in DZ for 20 DZ levels worth, and I will sell this shiny item to you". There doesn't seem to be other purpose for DZ levels / ranks.
We don't know if there will be similar matchmaking brackets in release as there is now, but different parts of DZ are meant for different levels of players. Lower regions (where beta is) are meant for players who have gotten to level 4-9 in doing Story stuff, and parts of DZ go all the way to level 30. For level 22 player there is very little reason to be in level 8 part of DZ because content doesn't provide him with any gear upgrades.
Level 30 players supposedly get own version of the whole DZ with all new content to do.
Phanatic8390
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Hmmm interesting. Thanks. I'm really worried about the DZ in the final game. People are quickly taking advantage of glitches and exploits, Not to mention as a solo player you're at a pretty big disadvantage as it's pretty easy to get swarmed and go down. it's getting increasingly frustrating and its only been 3 days. I like the game and the DZ is really cool but I can't help but think it's just gonna be filled with assholes.
Nothing has been revealed yet but they did talk about 8 player content being planned for the game, but that was years ago.
Kind of strange that they've said nothing about PVE endgame since.
By this time we already knew Vault of Glass would be the first raid in vanilla Destiny.
Just got sent s code from Ubisoft at 9:30cdt. Did they extend the beta? If not kind of sucks for those who were on the waiting list for a code and just got one and the beta is almost over? Oh well at least I'll get a chance to compare the PS4 version to the X1 version if this download doesn't take forever...
EroticSushi
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Which vendor sells the Caduceus?
The Saferoom vendor.
Jest Chillin
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They extended it by a day to try to give as many people as possible a chance to play.
Safehouse by the library
Hmm. Not super encouraging. It seems like there is a lot of talk and hype about the DZ and I get it is a cool concept. But not the type of thing me and my mates like. Hopefully they announce some PvE stuff for us people that can't git gud.
Safehouse one. Don't purchase that shotgun, it's very meh and perks on it require higher stats than achievable.
Edit: ganked
My hunch is that DZ is where we go to gear up in preparation of some sort of multi-group PVE content, perhaps a raid, but who knows.
I feel like DZ as endgame content wouldn't be enough for anyone, especially those who aren't into PVP whatsoever.
Cabbagehead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPLATt94n0
It seems in the press demo, from angry joe. You can kill civilians and there are in fact roaming npcs around the 11:45 mark or so.
Good to see.
It seems in the press demo, from angry joe. You can kill civilians and there are in fact roaming npcs around the 11:45 mark or so.
Good to see.
texhnolyze
Banned
Eventually, everyone will reach the level cap (30?).
What will happen to the casuals in Dark Zones by then? Everyone else will have full oranges set already.
Whole DZ area as single level 30 zone, with maximum of 24 players / DZ instance. That is a lot of area for so few players, I don't expect that much PvP in level 30 DZ because of it.
DreadfulOmen
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Well why would they do that? Why turn off roaming npcs's and spawn points? Wouldn't it be a more accurate test of how the game would run if they left that stuff on? The DF test shows it running 30fps on both consoles. It would be pretty disappointing if the retail version drops to the low 20s with roaming and more spawn points turned on.
Dark Zone is fucking stupid. So long as the campaign can be beaten without touching that shit once, I'll consider getting the game.
As it is, solo you're pretty much fucked because if you so much as go for any "dark zone items" it's damn near impossible to "decontaminate"/extract it. I've ran into a bunch of level 5-6's shooting each other at the entrance and it's like "really?"
As it is, solo you're pretty much fucked because if you so much as go for any "dark zone items" it's damn near impossible to "decontaminate"/extract it. I've ran into a bunch of level 5-6's shooting each other at the entrance and it's like "really?"
Jest Chillin
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Probably to focus on testing the PvP. More specifically the bugs and exploits that would (and did) surface due to it.
hm played the beta, visually i wasn't really impressed lol ( ps4 version ) lighting looks off certain streets/buildings lol
i see game has typical Ubisoft check list which is annoying, i do like the rpg elements though. Anyway the beta was enough for me to get the jest of the game, don't think i'll get it as i couldn't finish the beta, I suck at shooters so i kept dying at that part during inside madison square garden
>.<
i see game has typical Ubisoft check list which is annoying, i do like the rpg elements though. Anyway the beta was enough for me to get the jest of the game, don't think i'll get it as i couldn't finish the beta, I suck at shooters so i kept dying at that part during inside madison square garden
>.<
JetBlackPanda
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Getting ganked by someone when you are trying to load a new jacket onto the rope makes me fucking rage IRL.
Can someone explain private and public items in my DZ inventory?
Can someone explain private and public items in my DZ inventory?
Private: Stuff that you've equipped/decontaminated, AFAIK.
Public: Stuff you've picked up in the Dark Zone but haven't extracted/decontaminated from what I saw on that tooltip that popped up on death.
I just spent an hour in the DZ, extracted twice with full loot successfully. I've also had a miserable experience with roaming groups of rogues just gunning down every extraction point.
I think it's safe to say, if you're not having any luck in the DZ, leave and join again to get into a new instance. The last instance I was in was mostly solo dudes just trying to get gear from NPC's and extract, with only a few rogues that were easily avoided.
SpasilliumX11
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I want a pair of non-skinny jeans. And running around for two hours giving civilians shit isn't helping since they're only giving me jackets. I'm tempted to start robbing people in DZ.
Cabbagehead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPLATt94n0
Look at this video and compare what we got. Especially in the Dark zone part near the end.
The whole idea is stupid. "Oh let's lock a bunch of really good gear behind a PvP mode! And instead of people working together to try to get it out, everyone just shoots on sight anyone they see!"
Someone described it as "DayZ" to me and it's pretty accurate in that case.
Cabbagehead
Member
You can get really good gear outside of the Dark Zone, since PVE has a challenge mode with really good gear aswell. Dark Zone probably has more unique gear especially if they hit max. Got to give them something. Also you don't always fight players, there will be far more tougher npc's, in the final then what we have seen. Since its pretty darn empty for pvp purposes.
In the video i linked you will see that this is the case.
People might be just shooting up everybody there at the moment because beta is going to end soon and there's really no point of getting that loot out. On the first day of the beta when i spent few hours in the DZ most people i stumbled across were friendly, at one point there was like 3 groups of people waiting for the helicopter.
shinobi602
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After several hours into the beta, I'm pleasantly surprised that I'm left with a positive impression of the game. Exploring New York is fun, it's visually very pretty, the Dark Zone is fun and the initial first story mission at least felt more involved than the shit that was in Destiny for example.
Still not a day 1 purchase but I'll pick it up later after a price drop or two and play through the campaign and explore around afterwards. Good stuff Ubisoft Massive.
Still not a day 1 purchase but I'll pick it up later after a price drop or two and play through the campaign and explore around afterwards. Good stuff Ubisoft Massive.
If there is a PvE challenge mode in the beta, I don't see it. Unless you mean those stronghold attack side-missions?
texhnolyze
Banned
I thought there'll be several Dark Zone areas on the full version?
I'm quite aware how DZ instance works, but when the majority of players are already on their full orange set gear, a fresh level 30 player won't stand a chance except if they're being carried or something.
Except if..
I really hope that is the case on the full version. Give people options, farm your gear from pve or pvp.
You can stick with the PVE on release. There will be more missions you can play. PVP isn't always for everyone.
That being said, it's not strictly PVP in the dark zone. It feels much more like a lone wolf trying to survive (if going solo). Honestly, it makes it much more intense than the PVE will ever feel.
I used to play Ultima Online at release. In that game, if you were player killed, you lost everything on you. All of your gear, and everything in your inventory. It was devastating at times, but it made the game so much more intense with big rewards if you could succeed at whatever you were attempting to do.
This is a fantastic compromise. You don't lose everything, but the intensity of the game is there. Waiting for the extraction, looking around and seeing these other players that may attack. It's pretty exciting at times.
At level 8, I saw the option, but I never tried to select the 'challenge' mode. Stuck with hard.
I don't mind PvP in shooters. But here it's just bad. Lock really good weapons behind it and have players use exploits and other tricks (hopefully that's stamped out) to get them and then proceed to gank people that just want to get them to better their PvE experience.
Balance is another thing to consider. Destiny apparently has issues in that regard, and I can see Dark Zone PvP going down that path as well. Shooter "RPG"'s with stats is always a bad idea to PvP stuff because it becomes "who can get the best items to gank everyone."
I'll try to run Dark Zone again tomorrow evening, but I'm not overly impressed or enthused with the idea. Same shit as DayZ: I just want to survive on my lone-some, I don't need "shoot on sight" assholes coming out of the goddamn walls to fuck me over with wayyy better gear than I'll get.
I guess I should check out "Hard" for the main story mission. I've just been doing side-quests to get unlock points, but it feels like a drag because you can't unlock the other two wings in the beta.
texhnolyze
Banned
This is a pretty legit concern. It's not going to be a fun experience for new level 30's entering the DZ if they aren't there quickly after launch.
The DZ is going to be a griefer's paradise unless they can gate the DZ by gear levels, etc.
Well, my time with the beta is over. Besides the fact I had my character delete after the first day, I had fun with it. Especially co-op darkzone. I'm still going to hold out on a day 1 purchase, and cautiously await early impressions.
Sorry to the four peeps at the extraction zone we went in on at the end, you were all stood so close together waiting it was too enticing :3
Sorry to the four peeps at the extraction zone we went in on at the end, you were all stood so close together waiting it was too enticing :3
I think that once upon in a time when their plan was to release large Brooklyn and Manhattan areas both were to have own DZ. Brooklyn apparently has been since reduced into small tutorial segment so we are left with Manhattan and single DZ.
I think... hope that PvP won't be that major aspect of DZ come release because player amount limit in area of DZ's size. There is a lot area to adventure in, and hide in if you want avoid players. So being not so well geared 30 wouldn't be so big issue like being not so well geared 8 is now.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Maybe they will make a care bear mode for you.
We'll see, but I'm extremely dubious about the whole idea. PvP in shooter RPG's is (IMO) a totally bad idea because I have yet to see it executed in a good way.
Pretty impressed by this game. If it has enough content in the DZ (strikes or whatever), it seems like it'll be fun. The single player stuff is pretty good for the taste we got. I played the MSG quest again on hard mode and it was very hard, so there is some replayability.
As much as I thought the premise and environment would be cliched at this point, they seem to have made this feel unique. It's so much more ominous than I expected.
As much as I thought the premise and environment would be cliched at this point, they seem to have made this feel unique. It's so much more ominous than I expected.
What's all this negativity about people pvping in dark zones? That's why they're in the game. If you're getting killed, get some friends, return the favor.
There's a distinct lack of content in the beta so everyone's lumped in doing something and are looking to keep it interesting.
There's also people with tons of time spent that are essentially level 8 twinks at this point. The limitations of the beta are shaping the gameplay in a way that I don't think will be as big an issue when there's more content other than level 8 darkzone.
I've had a blast in the Darkzones, even still I'm going to hold off until I find out how much more content the game will have at launch.
There's a distinct lack of content in the beta so everyone's lumped in doing something and are looking to keep it interesting.
There's also people with tons of time spent that are essentially level 8 twinks at this point. The limitations of the beta are shaping the gameplay in a way that I don't think will be as big an issue when there's more content other than level 8 darkzone.
I've had a blast in the Darkzones, even still I'm going to hold off until I find out how much more content the game will have at launch.
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