This gets into bounty and faction territory which is a very neat idea. A decay system for it too. Or have certain NPCs/Vendors open up only for "bad" players and others only for "good" players with a group in between.
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The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again
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This gets into bounty and faction territory which is a very neat idea. A decay system for it too. Or have certain NPCs/Vendors open up only for "bad" players and others only for "good" players with a group in between.
Insane Metal
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Man this game is gorgeous.
My PS4 screens:
My PS4 screens:
CA was still on for this one
It doesn't make sense, though, both thematically (The Division disavows you! But sure, we'll still carry your loot) and Rogue is already hugely beneficial that it's silly.
Besides, it wouldn't hurt rogues much at all to just have to survive compared to the current situation.
thingHACKER
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I heard they said 64 people. 64 people seems balanced for the whole DZ.
Very nice grabs. I was marveling at the lighting during a snow storm last night.
Had a lot of fun with the beta but I have questions about the full game. Hope it has the content and they support/update the game going forward.
Jest Chillin
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Like I said, the game cant seem to tell between a tap and hold(atleast on X1), so you need to double tap.
No. According to what I read on the beta forums yesterday, switching to the handgun was changed to double tap as a result of feedback from the Alpha. They probably just didn't get the tool-tips and all that done yet.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I REALLY hope they at least let us either sell the extra Glamour clothes,drop it,stash it, or destroy for crafting materials because unless I missed something it was VERY frustrating carrying all that clothes that I didn't care about in the Beta.
Right. The advantage is that you get the loot without spending time to hunt for it in the dungeons. Getting onto the chopper right then and there seems incongruous to the world/system and cheap. You should have to call your own chopper later/elsewhere so you can yourself be subject to the stress of being hunted down.
I think the full game with more missions and playing with friends on harder modes will be a blast.
Only in the Japanese version.
Pixel Fist
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What I was trying to say in that post you quoted of mine was that rogue agents should have to call in their own 'rogue' chopper and not be able to use the one called in by the non hostile that has just been killed and is now having all his gear loaded onto it.
It should just be that little bit harder for a rogue to extract is all I'm saying.
Phanatic8390
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I like this idea but I worry it'll lead to more kill on sight behavior. "Oh you went Rogue once this week. Can't trust you. Dead". Everyone will end up with the bar and it'll be meaningless.
I think it's becoming apparent the best way to stay alive in the DZ is with sheer manpower.
I wonder if some kind of Covenant system like DS and DS2 would work. You could sign up for a policing faction that identifies others in that faction and rewards you for staying legit and stopping Rogue agents. Give them their own storefront/currency system and high level gear. Conversely you could have a Rogue faction as well. Sort of an Internal Affairs and Mole factions inside The Division.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Sometimes I run with a pistol for this exact reason. Also super surprised at how many times me and another player/group of players will run into each other, point guns and slowly go around each other ready to shoot until we've crossed paths and go on our way.Dark Zone was made for you crazy players who want stuff that's similar to DayZ/Rust.
Everyone might be dangerous, that's the whole point of the dark zones.
ChaosZeroX
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Agreed.
I was really enjoying the beta, but the DZ really turned me off. I'm not really a fan of PVP in most games. I probably won't be getting this until it drops to about $25 or so.
Yeah, I think the Dark Zone mechanic is an interesting idea, but it was far more frustrating than fun for us this weekend. We tried to be nice to other players, but there's always some guy or group of guys just waiting to snipe you as soon as you turn your back to them. Two or three times a guy would open up on someone we were friendly with, so I'd return fire trying to save that guy's life, and then I'm marked as rogue - so the guy I was friendly with thinks I'm attacking him and he turns around and downs me.
It's just a poorly realized system that rewards people trolling in large groups and kind of takes away from what I enjoyed about the game. I also feel like the menu system / UI is a little weird, and in a lot of firefights I feel more like I'm shooting at menu bars than people.
I'm probably going to get it eventually, but I'm not paying more than $20 or $25.
They need to drop that loot timer in the DZ. As it stands it's geared towards rogue agents.
They should be the ones fighting against time in order to steal things. No rogues shouldn't be the ones left out to dry.
At the very least, have the timer vary by how many people are in your group. A minute half is far too long for a solo player.
They should be the ones fighting against time in order to steal things. No rogues shouldn't be the ones left out to dry.
At the very least, have the timer vary by how many people are in your group. A minute half is far too long for a solo player.
SDCowboy
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Agreed. Should be like 45 seconds.
amstradcpc
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There is already matchmaking for DZ. I think you have to choose the exploring the world option, or something like that,matchmaking instead of DZ matchmaking that is greyed. My doubt is if it only works in the DZ entrance.
better than Destiny already
Let's not do this. Without the top notch gunplay of Destiny, this won't beat my love for Destiny.
I was actually less excited about the release after the beta. We'll see how much more the final game has, but I didn't have as much fun as I thought I would. I wasn't a huge fan of the dark zone either. We'll see how it ends up though.
Sleeping Lesson
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The fact that there's a PC version means the shooting is already infinitely better than Destiny.
I don't get that. If another player opens fire on you first then when you return fire you shouldn't be marked as rogue.
I had that happen a few times to me where a player / group would open fire on other "friendly" players and when I'd return serve I wasn't marked as rogue.
Alright,I finished off my stream. 2 hours of checking out tons of details and locations in the western area of the map. I got through about 1/3 of the beta area or so.
http://www.twitch.tv/klyka/v/39311526
Here is the recording of the broadcast.
It's PC gameplay and I take it very very slowly and find many details that might often get missed!
http://www.twitch.tv/klyka/v/39311526
Here is the recording of the broadcast.
It's PC gameplay and I take it very very slowly and find many details that might often get missed!
amstradcpc
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By the way, I sometimes think this is Watchdogs engine plus snow weather effects attached. Where is all that procedural destruction in the gunplay promised for the Snowdrop engine?.
arts&crafts
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keltickennedy
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They should add a mark/tag option. The pulse works for marking enemies, which is great... but it would be nice to be able to hit a button to mark a position in the world or items around. For instance playing in a group, being able to mark chests for other players that might of missed it.
SDCowboy
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DZ does have matchmaking.
I don't even know you anymore.
Broadbandito
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this is amazing
DirtyLarry
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As someone who lived in NYC for 4 years for college and who has lived just a train ride away my entire life, I feel it is best described as a visual amalgamation of NYC and nowhere near a 1:1 actual representation of it. Some of the more known landmarks are pretty accurate, but nothing is the real NYC as far as actual streets and neighborhoods. Just close.
anyone?
Raven117
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I thought they did a good job of designing the Dark Zone to feel more abandoned. It feels darker.
Also, so far, this doesn't feel like Destiny at all. I think it has much more in common with Diablo III.
can't check atm but I assume it shows comparison stuff
ah, sounds like typical video game city compression. thanks.
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