I'm sorry, but when you are ragging on the graphics and use load stutters and jump animations as your reasoning...well, that's pretty tame criticism. I think the visuals are indeed rough around the edges (I don't refute either of those points) but a poor visual experience they do not make. The game is overwhelminly detailed and yet the scale is massive. I end each of my gaming sessions floored by the juxtaposition of the detail and the scope. It's just staggering overall.tsp_gatmog said:
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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|
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I agree on both points. It really makes me wonder if adding 3rd person came late in the development - you just float over the environment and move in a totally artificial way. But I also find this kind of game easier and more natural at 1st person. If there was no 1st person option then it would be a disaster.Archaix said:
tsp_gatmog
Member
Archaix said:
granted, it could look A LOT better in fpv if the animations were better.
but whatever, im just saying that all the hype i've been hearing about the games visuals didn't match up with what I saw my friend playing/
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
I do agree that the animations in the third person view leave a lot to be desired, but I NEVER play in 3rd person. I've done it once or twice way back when I bought the game, but haven't touched it since.
I finished up the main quest, and thought it ended very well.
The ending was very satisfying, and I think it had some foreshadowing at things to come in the expansions or Elder Scrolls V.
Of course, it wasn't really the ending. It was just the closing of the main quest. Now I can move on to other ventures, like the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. So many things yet to explore and quests yet to complete. I'm not done with the game yet. Not be a long shot! At least I shouldn't have to face those damn Clannfears any more!
I finished up the main quest, and thought it ended very well.
I was shouting holy shit when I saw Dagon wandering around the city. The fight with him in the Dragon was awesome!
Of course, it wasn't really the ending. It was just the closing of the main quest. Now I can move on to other ventures, like the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. So many things yet to explore and quests yet to complete. I'm not done with the game yet. Not be a long shot! At least I shouldn't have to face those damn Clannfears any more!
New weapons:
Healthy Death - 20pt health regeneration, 30pts health boost on strike (24pt claymore)
Flamemare - 20pts fire damage on strike (29pt claymore)
The names are step up from my first weapon (Freeze-Mace). :lol
I gotta say - closing Oblivion gates is a lot more enjoyable now that I know there's a stone I can use to enchant weapons/stuff with at the end. :lol
I was going to gripe that the other Oblivion Gates are just floating out there, not tied into the story at all when I went to Layowiin (sp?) to
:lol
Random act of violence: I smashed a random town person from behind to test out a new sword. I was fully expecting to get busted, and saved ahead of time, but everyone was looking the other way; it was the middle of the day in town! :lol The kicker is she had castle keys - interior and exterior -on her. I'm still trying to figure out what to do with them.
I went on the most spectacular rampage, just for fun. I started just trespassing on the guard barracks. When I resisted arrest, I heard AT LEAST 8 swords get drawn in there. Oh, shit, time to run! So I'm sprinting around town, mauling random town folk. I decide to head for the castle.
I get there and carnage erupts instantly. Guards everywhere come charging, the guests and workers start running for the hills screaming. I summon a clannifer to help and we dive in, with my best claymore. I take out a few guards, then run up to the balcony above the throne. I swat a guard so hard he flies - on fire - off the side in a glorious arc. :lol :lol
Then, luck strikes. A stray arrow nails an orc mauler who was wandering by. Now it's three on, oh, about a dozen but he's a total badass, so it's actually more even than that.
It all winds down. My orc companion has fallen, but so has at least 15 guards and scores of random bystanders. I use my keys to explore the castle (a disappointing lack of booty) and come out upstairs. I look down on the scene of the battle and find the most glorious, carnage-strewn battlefield I've ever seen in a game. One of the maids landed on a table, face down, knocking everything on it off. There's a guard draped over the side railing of the stairs. That dude I swatted of the balcony? He landed in the chandelier. Bodies everywhere, arrows stuck in walls, all the clutter from tables blasted around from my fireballs.
I reloaded, since my bounty was, um, high.
Sorry if this is old-school to everyone, but it was my first bout of really going crazy with the rules.
So. Awesome.
Healthy Death - 20pt health regeneration, 30pts health boost on strike (24pt claymore)
Flamemare - 20pts fire damage on strike (29pt claymore)
The names are step up from my first weapon (Freeze-Mace). :lol
I gotta say - closing Oblivion gates is a lot more enjoyable now that I know there's a stone I can use to enchant weapons/stuff with at the end. :lol
I was going to gripe that the other Oblivion Gates are just floating out there, not tied into the story at all when I went to Layowiin (sp?) to
ask for their help defending Bruma. I'm like, hey guys, there's TWO gates in front of your city! No one seemed to notice. Then I talked to the mayor or whatever. They noticed.
Random act of violence: I smashed a random town person from behind to test out a new sword. I was fully expecting to get busted, and saved ahead of time, but everyone was looking the other way; it was the middle of the day in town! :lol The kicker is she had castle keys - interior and exterior -on her. I'm still trying to figure out what to do with them.
I went on the most spectacular rampage, just for fun. I started just trespassing on the guard barracks. When I resisted arrest, I heard AT LEAST 8 swords get drawn in there. Oh, shit, time to run! So I'm sprinting around town, mauling random town folk. I decide to head for the castle.
I get there and carnage erupts instantly. Guards everywhere come charging, the guests and workers start running for the hills screaming. I summon a clannifer to help and we dive in, with my best claymore. I take out a few guards, then run up to the balcony above the throne. I swat a guard so hard he flies - on fire - off the side in a glorious arc. :lol :lol
Then, luck strikes. A stray arrow nails an orc mauler who was wandering by. Now it's three on, oh, about a dozen but he's a total badass, so it's actually more even than that.
It all winds down. My orc companion has fallen, but so has at least 15 guards and scores of random bystanders. I use my keys to explore the castle (a disappointing lack of booty) and come out upstairs. I look down on the scene of the battle and find the most glorious, carnage-strewn battlefield I've ever seen in a game. One of the maids landed on a table, face down, knocking everything on it off. There's a guard draped over the side railing of the stairs. That dude I swatted of the balcony? He landed in the chandelier. Bodies everywhere, arrows stuck in walls, all the clutter from tables blasted around from my fireballs.
I reloaded, since my bounty was, um, high.
Sorry if this is old-school to everyone, but it was my first bout of really going crazy with the rules.
So. Awesome.
ElyrionX said:
There's a free house of sorts:
Do the Leyawin quest to become a knight (go to the castle); you get a neat little shack that you share with a female Orc. I use it for all my storage, because unlike other houses you can auto-travel there since it's not in a city.
bengraven
Member
ElyrionX said:
Honestly, I didn't worry about gold until I started leveling up. For the first 10 levels, gold is scarce, but soon you'll start finding enchanted weapons EVERYWHERE. At level 33, which I'm at, everyone has either glass or daedric weapons, or enchanted ones.
If you don't want to wait, thieve. Steal everything. Break into big, nice houses. For starters, take silver items, they add up. If you don't have much security skill, try casting Unlock spells. The Imperial City has two nice areas, Talos Plaza and the Temple District, which have a LOT of rich people's houses. Also, try the Guilds, especially the ones you're not in currently (so you can't get kicked out if you get caught).
Warning! Sometimes, you'll find Nirnroots, Varla Stones, and Welkynd stones. Um. Don't sell those; as tempting as it is. EspeciallyESPECIALLY the Nirnroots.
GhaleonEB said:
This was one of my problems with that quest.
Gates are open everywhere...why is Bruma so important? Yes, it could be argued that it's near Cloud Ruler Temple and Martin, but no one every actually says that. For someone paying less attention, it looks like we're almost bullying people into going to Bruma, even while their cities are wide open for destruction. I know a big battle happens there, but maybe it says somewhere in a text or such that I missed?
GhaleonEB said:
Reminds me of the being in Leyawiin during a DB mission where I had to sneak into the barracks. I tried to off someone there, but there was always 9-10 guys there. I once just fired an arrow from the stairs, but couldn't get to the bottom of the stairs before being completely eliminated. It's good I reloaded as that Redguard woman and Orc male that wander around hunting were there and stood up for me (I think they're Fighter's Guild) and ended up getting killed. I LIKED finding those two wandering around.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Quick question guys...
Would a GeForce 6200 card run this game well? If not, what kind of card could I get that would run the game nice at a good price ($80-150)?
Would a GeForce 6200 card run this game well? If not, what kind of card could I get that would run the game nice at a good price ($80-150)?
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
PhoenixDark said:
I'm playing on the 360, so it's hard for me to say for sure, but I think it depends on your definition of "well". I think that card will run the game, but you'll probably have to turn details down quite a bit to make it run at a decent framerate. Perhaps someone can offer you a better indication of how it actually runs on that card though.
Not sure what to recommend for an upgrade in that price range. Maybe an ATI 850? That would be the high end of your price range.
bengraven said:
Nope, I don't wish to steal. I'm roleplaying my character and he's supposed to be this kickass noble high mage, not some thief.
Anyway, I've got the Nirnroot quest already but what are the stones used for? I've got a couple of Welkynd stones as well. No idea what they're for.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
HAY, Theives Den is available on Marketplace! There's a Pirate Ship in the pictcha!
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
ElyrionX said:
Don't worry, you'll get plenty of gold soon enough. I'm level 37, bought the manor house in Skingrad, have it fully decked out, and still have 240k+ in gold. That's without having my mercantile high enough to invest in anyone yet.
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
GhaleonEB said:
Yeah, very useful. I always have one of them with me at all times, on top of all the soul gems I carry around. I also have 25+ Varla stones in a chest in my house, so I can easily re-stock when I need one.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
GhaleonEB said:
150.
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
Impressions on the Thieves Den would be appreciated. Will I need my Goonie Blinders down there?
Confidence Man
Member
Features:
-A fully detailed enviroment for your character to own and explore
-Free sleeping space: never pay for an inn again!
-Five upgrades for your lair
-Hire vendors designed especially for thieves, rogues, and assassins
-As you upgrade your lair new pirates will join your crew and provide you with income
-Over 45 new items
-15 new spells
Sounds pretty nice!
Is there a quest to go with it?
-A fully detailed enviroment for your character to own and explore
-Free sleeping space: never pay for an inn again!
-Five upgrades for your lair
-Hire vendors designed especially for thieves, rogues, and assassins
-As you upgrade your lair new pirates will join your crew and provide you with income
-Over 45 new items
-15 new spells
Sounds pretty nice!
Is there a quest to go with it?
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
Didn't know there were going to be new items and spells included. Although considering how easy it is to create new items, I guess it should be a surprise.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Confidence Man said:
Holy shit, all of that is in there??
I guess I'll have to wait until I get done with all the Good Guy stuff with my Nord to enjoy this one.
I thought I read you had to clear the place out first. It's not in the description, though.Confidence Man said:
http://obliviondownloads.com/StoreCatalog_ProductView.aspx?ProductId=5
Yeah, you do. I just finished clearing it out. You have to kill all the ghost pirate's (or pirate ghosts!) skeletons inhabiting the cave, eventually making your way to the captain's quarters on the ship.GhaleonEB said:
After that's done you have to go meet someone to help you get things back into shape.
The funny thing is that I already found it's location while playing normally, but you couldn't acess the ship cave itself yet.
edit:
After you find the person you need, she gives you the options for a bunch of stuff.
-Hire a fence (1000)
-Fletcher (1000)
-Upgrade your quarters (500)
-Hire a security expert (1000)
-Hire a spymaster (1000)
-Hire a supplier (1000)
-Fletcher (1000)
-Upgrade your quarters (500)
-Hire a security expert (1000)
-Hire a spymaster (1000)
-Hire a supplier (1000)
After you're finished upgrading you can send your new crew on missions and they'll give you your share of the plunder on a weekly basis.
Yeah, I still have over 300,000 after all of this and buying (and fully upgrading) the Skingrad House, Anvil Mansion etc.GhaleonEB said:
In any case, out of your new crew of seven or so, only three can be sent plundering.. and they always go together. The others are trainers/barterers. Sneak, Security, Speechcraft, Marksmanship etc They'd be pretty handy if my skill levels weren't already over theirs... :lol
As stated in the description, you do get acess to a lot of higher level spells with them, but overall it seems like something that should've been released earlier in the game's life cycle.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
raYne said:
I don't know. I'm nowhere near having the money or magica to fully utilize all that stuff.
What the?! No time for posting.. get back to work!Vark said:
Good job!
Well I'm obviously talking about me personally. The game's been out a while though, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people feel the same. Probably not the majority, but a lot nonetheless...BenjaminBirdie said:
siamesedreamer
Banned
I started the game this weekend. Should I download both add-on patches before I play any further?
siamesedreamer said:
I wouldn't. Play it for a while and see if you like it. There's more than enough in the base game to keep you occupied for months; the add-ons aren't critical to the game.
If you get to a point where you feel like you're running out of things to do, or would like to throw a little more support Bethesda's way, or would just like to see how the add-ons function, then go ahead and try them out.
Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread but I'm afraid of going through it thoroughly in fear of spoilage:
I've got a thief-ish character, if I download this Thieves Den thing, is it just magically inserted into my game world? Does it only work from a fresh new game, or can it be inserted in a game that's been going for 40 hours? Will it interfere with any other quests I'm working on, etc etc?
I've got a thief-ish character, if I download this Thieves Den thing, is it just magically inserted into my game world? Does it only work from a fresh new game, or can it be inserted in a game that's been going for 40 hours? Will it interfere with any other quests I'm working on, etc etc?
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Yay, the first worthwhile Oblivion download thing is perfect for my Stabbity McKillem character.
Edit: Oh, third. I thought that the only other thing that they made was the horse armor thing for some reason.
God has smiled upon me, this day.
I've wondered about that. Like, if they added more quests they'd probably have to rehire some of the generic race voice actors, which made me wonder how probable it is that new quests are eventually going to be up for grabs.
Eh, I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard though.
Edit: Oh, third. I thought that the only other thing that they made was the horse armor thing for some reason.
God has smiled upon me, this day.
I've wondered about that. Like, if they added more quests they'd probably have to rehire some of the generic race voice actors, which made me wonder how probable it is that new quests are eventually going to be up for grabs.
Eh, I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard though.
Well you don't exactly need new voice audio at all if they were to create new quests. Everything could either be given to you or the quest could be advanced by scroll. Meaning all text anyway.Lost Fragment said:
If they felt the need to, they could just reuse some of "thank you" voice statements that already exist to end the quest upon competion. That wouldn't be too bad since the npcs share voices anyway.
Still, I agree with Ghaleon. Actual quests should be saved for the expansion.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Well, now I know what my future characters are going to be named in all rpg's yet to be released!
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