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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion |OT|

Wait... You get sent out to collect more nirnroots after you complete the first part???


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Do they add up? Meaning that once you get ten you only need another ten to complete the twenty or do you need to find twenty more?
 

raYne

Member
thundersabre said:
Do they add up? Meaning that once you get ten you only need another ten to complete the twenty or do you need to find twenty more?
The latter. You have to find 10, then 20 more, then 30 more, then 40 more etc.
 
thundersabre said:
Wait... You get sent out to collect more nirnroots after you complete the first part???


.......

Do they add up? Meaning that once you get ten you only need another ten to complete the twenty or do you need to find twenty more?

They add up but the whole ninroot quest is a complete waste of time, imo. Too much work for too little reward.
 
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
They add up but the whole ninroot quest is a complete waste of time, imo. Too much work for too little reward.

Agreed. The potions that the guy makes aren't even that great, and I had other gear that did the same job on a permanent basis. I skipped the second half of the quest when he said, "Ok, now I need 30 Ninroots!" Come to think of it, I should go back an kill that guy. :lol
 
Yeah, it totally ticked me off when on the first part he told me to go to this little pond. I had like 6 nirnroots. Well, for some reason the pond only had 3, so I had to go find another pond to find one more nirnroot. Stupid......

Anyway, what exactly does the spell do?
 

ballhog

Member
Ha, I have probably 60 or 70 nirnroots at my house, I haven't bothered with the quest much but whenever I'm near water I look around for the stupid things. When I get a hundred maybe I'll go find that guy again, he's still waiting for the first ten.
 
siamesedreamer said:
Yeah, it totally ticked me off when on the first part he told me to go to this little pond. I had like 6 nirnroots. Well, for some reason the pond only had 3, so I had to go find another pond to find one more nirnroot. Stupid......

Anyway, what exactly does the spell do?

I forget exactly what the potion does, but it is essentially a detect life potion. Seems it has another power or two, but that was the main thing. See in the dark/detect life.
 

bengraven

Member
I just need the satisfaction of finishing another quest. I'm anal like that. For example, the DB and Arena end quests that stay in your quest folder forever even after you've beaten the quests annoy me to no end. However, other quests, like
finding vampire ashes and delivering them to the house in Imperial City as well as the Fighter's Guild recruitment/plunder quests don't appear
. That's irritating.

Oh well, only 13 more roots to go. Thanks to the plugins for adding a few more roots.

Edit: Also, the fact that we fell to page 3 distresses me to no end. Maybe when it goes Platinum Hits....
 

metroid23

Member
I just water-walked around all the lakes and searched behind rocks. Took about 3 hours but now I have 70+ roots and lots of new places to fast travel to :) Not that hard!
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I forget exactly what the potion does, but it is essentially a detect life potion. Seems it has another power or two, but that was the main thing. See in the dark/detect life.
Are you serious? I basically told the guy to **** off when he wanted another 30 (after 10, then 20) with my last character. And that's all it does? How ironic that with my new character, my primary Illusion boosting spell is a custom one that - watch for it - combines Detect Life with Night Vision. And that's all the potions do? Unbeliveable. I was expecting some uber-potion for it. I probably won't bother with it at all this time around. :lol
 
metroid23 said:
I just water-walked around all the lakes and searched behind rocks. Took about 3 hours but now I have 70+ roots and lots of new places to fast travel to :) Not that hard!

3 hours of picking plants is not my idea of fun. I'll wait for Virtual Botanist.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
3 hours of picking plants is not my idea of fun. I'll wait for Virtual Botanist.
Speaking of doing something for three hours....when I first started, I decided to explore some corners of the map looking for stuff that might be tucked away. Using the Buyoncy spell I got from a Mage's Guild quest, I spent HOURS exploring the bay outside Anvil, swimming along the bottom. I mapped out the whole damn place, which is a lot of territory, and never found more than a couple of clams with pearls down there. I was hoping there would be a sunken ship, some treasure...something, anything. There are tons of rocks, plants etc. placed down there, quite a lot of detail so someone was working on it. Seems like a missed opportunity. I did find a few treasure chests at the bottom of some lakes and ponds, but the MOST I ever got out of one was five gold coins. :(
 

metroid23

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
3 hours of picking plants is not my idea of fun. I'll wait for Virtual Botanist.

Well, I was spending the entire time jumping off rocks (increasing acrobatics), casting various low-level spells the entire time to boost certain stats (restoration, I'm looking at you) and blocking mud crabs. All in all, boosted quite a few stats and like I said, completed a quest along the way.

It was surprisingly fun, actually. Hell, get into a 1:1 chat with a friend and just talk if you're that bored ;)
 
metroid23 said:
Well, I was spending the entire time jumping off rocks (increasing acrobatics), casting various low-level spells the entire time to boost certain stats (restoration, I'm looking at you) and blocking mud crabs. All in all, boosted quite a few stats and like I said, completed a quest along the way.

It was surprisingly fun, actually. Hell, get into a 1:1 chat with a friend and just talk if you're that bored ;)

To each his own I suppose. I just didn't like that quest at all, and found searching for and picking plants to be one of the least interesting things to do in the game. And this comes from someone who loves to explore and wasted plenty of time just wandering around the countryside.

Just goes to show you the universal appeal of Oblvion. So many things to do. So many ways to play.
 

Jonnyram

Member
1000/1000 @ 80 hours.

And like everyone said, the Dark Brotherhood quest line was awesome, though I think I prefer the Thief quest line overall.

Thief > DB > Main > Mage > Fighter for me.
 
Jonnyram said:
1000/1000 @ 80 hours.

And like everyone said, the Dark Brotherhood quest line was awesome, though I think I prefer the Thief quest line overall.

Thief > DB > Main > Mage > Fighter for me.

At 80 hours do you feel like you did pretty much everything or were you kinda sick of it by then?
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Jonnyram said:
1000/1000 @ 80 hours.

And like everyone said, the Dark Brotherhood quest line was awesome, though I think I prefer the Thief quest line overall.

Thief > DB > Main > Mage > Fighter for me.
Sounds like you plowed through the quests mostly. Did you do many optional dungeons, etc?

And I totally agree at parking Fighter's Guild at the bottom of the list.
 
siamesedreamer said:
At 80 hours do you feel like you did pretty much everything or were you kinda sick of it by then?

I know that when I was personally at 80 hours, I wasn't even close to being finished. It was still plenty fresh and addictive to me.
 

Core407

Banned
Beat the main quest at around 80 hours and then did 40 hours of exploration and now I'm going to try and max out my character's stats.
 

JCBossman

Banned
I gotta stop playing this game, I was walking down the street in REAL life, I looked down and exclaimed, WOW! a Ninroot, no it was just a weed that LOOKED like a ninroot, but still:)
 

Core407

Banned
JCBossman said:
I gotta stop playing this game, I was walking down the street in REAL life, I looked down and exclaimed, WOW! a Ninroot, no it was just a weed that LOOKED like a ninroot, but still:)

Holy crap, I'm not the only one? I was at work and saw a plant that looked just like the Ninroot. I spent the remaining 7 hours of work thinking about Ninroots and Oblivion. :lol
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Core407 said:
Holy crap, I'm not the only one? I was at work and saw a plant that looked just like the Ninroot. I spent the remaining 7 hours of work thinking about Ninroots and Oblivion. :lol

Don't feel too bad, I've been giving mushrooms I see outside a second glance to see if they're Steel Blue Entoloma or Wisp Stalks or Cairn Boletes for months.
 

Jonnyram

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Sounds like you plowed through the quests mostly. Did you do many optional dungeons, etc?
I thought I did a couple of optional things, but later it turned out that they were part of faction quests anyway... the game is really too massive for me to explore too much - I've been putting off other games so I could play Oblivion so I really just wanted to get the main stuff out of the way for now, but I can always come back later to explore optional stuff. Give it long enough to forget how the voices sound ;)
 

Speevy

Banned
I remember playing Morrowind and afterwards hearing those Cliff Racers in my head at strange times. Oblivion's music does that occasionally too.
 

Core407

Banned
Speevy said:
I remember playing Morrowind and afterwards hearing those Cliff Racers in my head at strange times. Oblivion's music does that occasionally too.

The sound those cliff hangers made brings pain to my ears.
 

JCBossman

Banned
The ONE thing that is sorely missing in Oblivion is the ability to Levitate, think how much easier it would be to close those Oblivion Gates!
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Suerte said:
Damn this game, because of it I haven't yet touched games that I bought/rented a few weeks ago :(
Should have planned ahead! I started playing Oblivion in early May and it will last me right up through Dead Rising shipping. This game prevented me from buying two others.
 

JCBossman

Banned
I have this weird issue with a horse, I think it's the one I got from Weynon Priroty, it seems to "Follow" me but not everywhere, then I'll come out of some fort or ruin, and BAM it's back, I never ride the damn thing, and I am sure I've seen it get killed SEVERAL times, also something similar is going on with the ever scamps, I see them around different places and I finished the quest, anyone have any of this issue?

Also why can't I reanimate the dadera in the Oblivion Plane with the staff of worms?
 

bengraven

Member
SteveMeister said:
Don't feel too bad, I've been giving mushrooms I see outside a second glance to see if they're Steel Blue Entoloma or Wisp Stalks or Cairn Boletes for months.

You should have tasted them. Maybe they would help you see in the dark. Or at least give you the impression you did before the cops pulled you off the roof of that ice cream truck.
 

bengraven

Member
JCBossman said:
I have this weird issue with a horse, I think it's the one I got from Weynon Priroty, it seems to "Follow" me but not everywhere, then I'll come out of some fort or ruin, and BAM it's back, I never ride the damn thing, and I am sure I've seen it get killed SEVERAL times, also something similar is going on with the ever scamps, I see them around different places and I finished the quest, anyone have any of this issue?

Also why can't I reanimate the dadera in the Oblivion Plane with the staff of worms?

Sounds like Shadowmere, actually. Is it black? If it's brown, that's odd, because brown horses die. Shadow comes back every time. Though after not riding him for some time, he seems to grow bored and goes back home.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Should have planned ahead! I started playing Oblivion in early May and it will last me right up through Dead Rising shipping. This game prevented me from buying two others.

I started the day the game was released back in March! :lol
 

bengraven

Member
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I started the day the game was released back in March! :lol

Myself, too. I've taken a few weeks off, though. The freezes piss me off and makes me angry for a few days at a time.
 
GhaleonEB said:
That's why you have ~250 more posts than I do in this thread. Damn head start. :lol

Check the first page. I think I'm post number 3! :D

bengraven said:
Myself, too. I've taken a few weeks off, though. The freezes piss me off and makes me angry for a few days at a time.

It's odd that you are having freezes so often. In all of my game time, I'd guess that I've had five or six freezes total. Probably zero since the patch.
 

Suerte

Member
The only freezes I've ever had were if I had been going through doors without standing still before pressing A, if that makes sense.
 

JCBossman

Banned
bengraven said:
Sounds like Shadowmere, actually. Is it black? If it's brown, that's odd, because brown horses die. Shadow comes back every time. Though after not riding him for some time, he seems to grow bored and goes back home.[/QUOTE

No, it one of those paint ones, I think I know what happened, I was on the main quest, the part where you have to escort Martin, and riding horses, wasn't working well for us, (we kept getting attacked by wild animals) so at some point, I said the heck with it we are walking the rest of the way, and we just left the horses in the middle of the road, so they must of all got killed and this is Pet Cemetery kinda thing.(good thing one of them wasn't Mr.Ed):)
 
I don't have freezes, but the load times are ridiculous post-live update.

I just found the location of the Mythis Dawn Shrine. What percentage of the main quest do I have left? (I know there's probably a lot)
 

gblues

Banned
siamesedreamer said:
I don't have freezes, but the load times are ridiculous post-live update.

I just found the location of the Mythis Dawn Shrine. What percentage of the main quest do I have left? (I know there's probably a lot)

I'd say you're about
65%
done with the main quest.

I got Oblivion on day 1 too--my wife (bless her heart) took time off work to go out to Boise to get it since the Caldwell shop didn't get any on release day. Got the collector's edition w/ guide (which I've used like 3 times when I got totally stumped).

I discovered something neat on my 2nd playthrough:
the random Oblivion gates don't appear until after you've closed the Great Gate in front of Kvatch. I'm still running around with the Amulet of Kings and 11 levels later, still no gates.

Nathan
 

GhaleonEB

Member
siamesedreamer said:
That far?

Shhesh, I feel like I kinda just got into the main quest.
I'd say it depends on how much of the side-stuff you do along the way. For example, nearly everything in Kavatch was optional (you just had to get Martin), but I considered it part of the main quest. There are similar branches later on, one of them pretty huge. Also, from getting into
the Mythic Dawn's entrance on, the main quest simply rocks.
Some really, really fun stuff ahead.
 

gblues

Banned
siamesedreamer said:
That far?

Shhesh, I feel like I kinda just got into the main quest.

Well let's see, the MQ line goes:

- Death of the Emperor
- Take the amulet to Wynon Priory
- Go rescue Martin from Kvatch
- Take Martin to the Priory
- Take Martin to Cloud Ruler Temple
- Track down the Mythic Dawn books
- Decode the books and get the location of the Mythic Dawn Cult
- Go after the Cult [YOU ARE HERE] for the amulet of kings
- The bad guy takes the amulet but you take the Infinium Xarxes book back to Martin
- Take care of the spies near Bruma
- Get a Daedric artifact for Martin
- Get a Great Varla stone for Martin
- Get allies from the other towns (optional, but they send soldiers who help with the next quest)
- Get a Great Sigil Stone for Martin
- Kill the bad guy and recover the amulet
- Get Martin to the Imperial Palace
- Get Martin to the Temple of the One
- [endgame - I won't spoil it!]

OK, maybe 55% but I'd definitely say you've crested the halfway mark. Oblivion's main quest doesn't have the gigantic quests that Morrowind's did (the Great House and Nerevarine quests). With how tedious some of Morrowind's MQ was, I'd say it's an improvement.

Nathan
 
Yeah, I'd say you're over half-way through the main quest as well, but some of the quests yet to come are amongst the logest of the main quest as well, so playing time may be more than half yet.
 

JCBossman

Banned
I gotta question about ASSAULT, One thing I loved in Morrowind was the speechcraft system, was easy to exploit, I would go into peoples houses, see if they had anthing I wanted to rob, strike up a convesation, they would get mad at me, and hit me, then they died, And I looted thier corpses, and the guards were cool because I was attacked first:) so anyway in Oblivion I can't figure out how to make people hate me Enough that they attack me? how do I do it? Also I once get hit in some chicks basement accidently, (she was casting lightning at a dummy and it hit me), so I slautered her were she stood, why are the guards mad at me?

Oh and what the HELL is Sparky and why was I kicked out of the Mage's guild for killing the little MONSTER:)
 

bengraven

Member
JCBossman said:
I gotta question about ASSAULT, One thing I loved in Morrowind was the speechcraft system, was easy to exploit, I would go into peoples houses, see if they had anthing I wanted to rob, strike up a convesation, they would get mad at me, and hit me, then they died, And I looted thier corpses, and the guards were cool because I was attacked first:) so anyway in Oblivion I can't figure out how to make people hate me Enough that they attack me? how do I do it? Also I once get hit in some chicks basement accidently, (she was casting lightning at a dummy and it hit me), so I slautered her were she stood, why are the guards mad at me?

Oh and what the HELL is Sparky and why was I kicked out of the Mage's guild for killing the little MONSTER:)

Sparky is their pet! The Mages Guild and Dark Brotherhood have pets in their joints. I'll assume you got kicked out because Sparky is considered a member.

You can't talk someone into fighting you, exactly. And if people attack you on accident, you can't just kill them.

*shakes head*
 
JCBossman said:
I gotta question about ASSAULT, One thing I loved in Morrowind was the speechcraft system, was easy to exploit, I would go into peoples houses, see if they had anthing I wanted to rob, strike up a convesation, they would get mad at me, and hit me, then they died, And I looted thier corpses, and the guards were cool because I was attacked first:) so anyway in Oblivion I can't figure out how to make people hate me Enough that they attack me? how do I do it? Also I once get hit in some chicks basement accidently, (she was casting lightning at a dummy and it hit me), so I slautered her were she stood, why are the guards mad at me?

Oh and what the HELL is Sparky and why was I kicked out of the Mage's guild for killing the little MONSTER:)

Yeah, those exploits from Morrowind were closed this time around. You can't get anyone angry enough to attack you in Oblivion. You have to do something to them first. Poking around in houses where you don't belong will get the guards called on you as well.

Sparky is indeed the Mage Guild pet. You killed him, now you have to suffer the indignation of having to pick flowers to get back in to the guild. Enjoy! :D
 
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