Dominican Power
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Shit is really going to hit the fan now that the cat is out of the bag.
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The Expanse |S2| You guys look like shit - Wednesdays on Syfy
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tearsintherain
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Julie + Miller was heartbreakingly beautiful but I also loved that entire scene between Avasarala and her husband.
Cornballer
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- io9: The Expanse's Executive Producer Tells Us Everything That Made Last Night's Big Moment Work
More via the link.
Avasarala's and Arjun's scene was a really lovely moment. <3
To be honest even when it works, the Syfy site's streaming (live or not) can be pretty shit.
To be honest even when it works, the Syfy site's streaming (live or not) can be pretty shit.
Cornballer
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Book spoilers about Miller:
Really confusing to me that they're skimping on this in the show. It's a clever solution in the books and it can't possibly be very costly to execute in the show...
I really wonder how they're going to solve that. Miller's presence is very on and off in the books and, at the show's pace, there'd be entire seasons without a Miller cameo, or maybe like once or twice in the whole season. That can't be very easy to work around for Jane, so I'm thinking they'll either have to bump up his screentime by a ton compared to the books or write him out completely. I'm thinking they might replace Miller with Julie as the protomolecule ghost.
In the books, spaceships are outfitted with "crash couches", a seat made of space gel that helps absorb the pressure of high G's and stops their bones and organs from being crushed. The "juice" is just to keep them from passing out, really.
Really confusing to me that they're skimping on this in the show. It's a clever solution in the books and it can't possibly be very costly to execute in the show...
Cornballer
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the best cheesefarts
Book 2+3 Spoilers
I hope Miller gets screentime the next season. I could see that he isnt in the next episodes, but a ghost appearance in the last episode and more in season 3 would be good. if not, we probably dont see him until season 4 or 5 if he isnt going to be written out.
Book 2
introduces Bobbie, Avasarala, Ganymede, Prax, and the protomolecule doing bad things.
No Miller = RIOT!
There weren't. Must have been a cut scene.
GavinUK86
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Yeah, that's what I thought it might've been. Maybe a quick flashback when
Miller was embracing the idea of dying there with Julie
Backlogger
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She is an interesting character and definitely one of my favorites. Definitely my favorite character not part of the main original crew.
Bobbie is a fan favorite, so I really hope the show does her justice!
Freeza Under The Shower
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Did it bother anyone else that the writing move on RADAR (How?) and Eros going stealth was bullshit, both in reality and within the diegesis?
I can tolerate stealth ships and bases to some degree on account of some unknown technology (even if realistically that would not be possible), but the only way to go stealth on radar would be to change the physical shape of the asteroid. That was previously established to not be used by the protomolecule, so there is no mechanism by which it could become permeable to the lightwave used as radar (I presume, since you wouldn't use the terrestrial sound based system in the same term as one for space, and the only way to see anything in space is to shine a light on it).
What I think was probably supposed to happen was Eros becoming 'stealth' by speeding up, thereby controlling the fold of space and the lightwave that is supposed to reflect on it. But the show did not combine those two things, instead having the asteroid (again, dumb brick object, stands out like a sore spot) just 'go dark' for some reason.
Other than that the episode was great, but that was my "bullshit!" moment on it.
well, if we ignore that nothing would survive the explosion on impact of an asteroid on Venus, with it being Venus and all, but I'm ignoring that one for story sake.
I really liked the arcade + bird callback to S1 though, regardless of whether that was in the books or not. So long, Miller.
I can tolerate stealth ships and bases to some degree on account of some unknown technology (even if realistically that would not be possible), but the only way to go stealth on radar would be to change the physical shape of the asteroid. That was previously established to not be used by the protomolecule, so there is no mechanism by which it could become permeable to the lightwave used as radar (I presume, since you wouldn't use the terrestrial sound based system in the same term as one for space, and the only way to see anything in space is to shine a light on it).
What I think was probably supposed to happen was Eros becoming 'stealth' by speeding up, thereby controlling the fold of space and the lightwave that is supposed to reflect on it. But the show did not combine those two things, instead having the asteroid (again, dumb brick object, stands out like a sore spot) just 'go dark' for some reason.
Other than that the episode was great, but that was my "bullshit!" moment on it.
well, if we ignore that nothing would survive the explosion on impact of an asteroid on Venus, with it being Venus and all, but I'm ignoring that one for story sake.
I really liked the arcade + bird callback to S1 though, regardless of whether that was in the books or not. So long, Miller.
StopMakingSense
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Pffffft, protomolecule is gonna beat Mars to getting a planet terraformed!
Backlogger
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it is not, and most likely won't be until at earlist in April (but likely even later).
Edit:
Regarding the "juice", isn't it more like a sort of adrenaline, to make it so you don't pass out for one, and for the other, to boost your heart so it can pump blood around your body, more like a performance enhancing drug. The belter that suicided by not taking the drugs didn't die due to crushing, but most likely heart attack or stroke.
600k viewers, so i guess it's doing alright. Maybe one day this will break that one million club. Let's hope.
This episode though. Man, i wasn't prepared for that. Just when Thomas Jane was doing all the right moves with his character they do that. Epic television, but this will really hurt.
Cornballer
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- Sneak peek scene from next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion)
Zoe
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After reading a detailed summary of the first book (almost where the last episode ended, guess there's still a spoiler in the epilogue), I have to say I'm so glad they went with the pretty blue lights and crystalline structures instead of black goop and Halo-esque zombie gore.
GavinUK86
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Cornballer
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- AfterBuzz TV's The Expanse After Show: Episode 5 Review w/ Dominique Tipper
Are the books worth getting into?
Also, does the series have a planned ending already? I hate getting into things when I don't know how much longer someone might try to drag them out. This show is pretty much the only non-reality show I'm watching that hasn't already finished other than GoT at this point
Also, does the series have a planned ending already? I hate getting into things when I don't know how much longer someone might try to drag them out. This show is pretty much the only non-reality show I'm watching that hasn't already finished other than GoT at this point
Are the books worth getting into?
Also, does the series have a planned ending already? I hate getting into things when I don't know how much longer someone might try to drag them out. This show is pretty much the only non-reality show I'm watching that hasn't already finished other than GoT at this point
- yep. It's pretty decent scifi, altough pretty straight forward most of the times. It's no Ian M Banks or Alastair Reynolds tier; but they're fun.
- according to the writers, yes.
Backlogger
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I couldn't watch that video, it was super awkward for some reason.
Cornballer
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Yeah, I haven't watched it. Seemed like content better suited for a podcast in any case.
It's Sci-fi, you're trying to argue against things that don't exist.
Like absorbing all the radiation so radar cannot find a target by a extra-solar organism.
As for nothing surviving the impact, did you forget that Miller didn't experience any increased g-force when eros accelerated? He should have been pinned to the walls unconscious or dead. Who's to say part of it didn't stay intact.?
I'd bet money it did and I haven't read the books.
Again, it's sci-fi. The first problem with survivable high sustained G's are loss of conciousness due to lack of blood and oxygen to the brain, this substance may aid in slowing/stopping or increasing the limit to a point like a G-Suit does.
In fact the chairs orient I think, with the head toward the rear so it's more likely blood trying to rush to the head.
Why is everyone sure Miller is dead? We didn't see anything after the kiss (yea he said let's go to Venus but we'll find out if we get a shayamlanteist next episode) and more importantly we don't know what protomolecule actually does. And we certainly shouldn't be believing that considering we saw Julie who had shit all over her body and presumed dead...come back to life with an apparently new body in this very episode. Maybe he'll come back as a post human/transhuman ala David Bowman.
The funny thing is that at first Miller for a major part of last week's episode Miller seemed screwed until Eros moved and there's hope. But Eros starts to move fast butsince the the crew follows him it felt like there was hope again. Then he seemingly gets screwed once more at the end of last episode.
The funny thing is that at first Miller for a major part of last week's episode Miller seemed screwed until Eros moved and there's hope. But Eros starts to move fast butsince the the crew follows him it felt like there was hope again. Then he seemingly gets screwed once more at the end of last episode.
I love Amos.
Well, the series is a space opera. I think the protomolecule is an interesting wrench in things.
Cornballer
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Via Reddit, Daniel Abraham noted on twitter that we're unlikely to hear anything about a potential third season until "late next month".
No, it's a big jump. But they don't stray from the hard sci-fi when it comes to human capabilities and limitations. It's not like this stuff is happening all over, the characters are in just as much disbelief as we are. I guess it doesn't bother me so much, the focus is still really on the characters and factions. With Eros targeting Earth a lot of peoples true colors came out fast.
SolidusDave
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Episode was good, just... I don't know, it seemed like the plot stumbled over itself.
As in, it felt like the end of a show/season episode that rushes things.
We went from not-pushing a contaminated asteroid into the sun to asteroid-being-turned-into a ship by an intelligent alien lifeform (that can counter pretty much anything on the fly) and life on Earth will end. Literally the apocalypse.
But not only the stakes suddenly jumped sky-high, everyone was suddenly interacting directly with each other which felt weird. But I guess it needed an event like this to have that happen.
As in, it felt like the end of a show/season episode that rushes things.
We went from not-pushing a contaminated asteroid into the sun to asteroid-being-turned-into a ship by an intelligent alien lifeform (that can counter pretty much anything on the fly) and life on Earth will end. Literally the apocalypse.
But not only the stakes suddenly jumped sky-high, everyone was suddenly interacting directly with each other which felt weird. But I guess it needed an event like this to have that happen.
It felt like a finale because this is the ending of Book 1.