Chesapeake Silt said:But, really, don't we ALL wish we lived in the time when you could challege a person to a duel? Because we'd all be wearing those slick early 19th century clothes and exchanging witty banter in some girl's parlor instead of posting on a message board.
Reality check:You people here are the one's living in a false reality. You take comfort that most of your fellow GA's agree with you totally unaware of the political landscape. Over 50% of Americans agree that going into Iraq was justified but only say 5% of people here do. The President's approval rating is above 50%, he is leading in every poll and 15 plus percent of the American people trust him over Kerry to handle terrorism yet many here act like the President is some extremist out of touch with the American people.
RedDwarf said:Well there is stupidity in this thread, I don't think it's democratic though.
You'd wouldn't be pounced on if you actually had an argument.AeroGod said:Yes im stupid because I dont flex my awesome political muscle of knowledge. EVERYTHING MILLER SAYS IS A LIE!! IM AWESOME!! SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME@!!!!
Give me a f'n break. I dont care what you people think of me or my views(or lack of). You're like jackals that feed of of anyone that isnt like you/ OHH LOOK THAT PERSON ISNT A DEMOCRAT LETS ARGUE WITH THEM ON FORUMS!!!
And you think that wasnt caused somewhat by one of the biggest financial infrastructres in the world falling to the ground in a jet fueled fire.
HalfPastNoon said:how did the collapse of the two towers result in the aforementioned losses?
If you don't argue with a person you disagree with, then um, what are you supposed to do?OHH LOOK THAT PERSON ISNT A DEMOCRAT LETS ARGUE WITH THEM ON FORUMS!!!
AeroGod said:Yes im stupid because I dont flex my awesome political muscle of knowledge. EVERYTHING MILLER SAYS IS A LIE!! IM AWESOME!! SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME@!!!!
Give me a f'n break. I dont care what you people think of me or my views(or lack of). You're like jackals that feed of of anyone that isnt like you/ OHH LOOK THAT PERSON ISNT A DEMOCRAT LETS ARGUE WITH THEM ON FORUMS!!!
EVERYTHING MILLER SAYS IS A LIE!! IM AWESOME!! SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME@!!!!
What about those tax cuts Bush was pushing for since 2000? How about all the money sent to Iraq?Cooter said:What's so funny about that Half Past? September Eleventh had a lot to do with hurting our economy.
The stock market fell, confidence fell and Government spending increased.
Hitokage said:You'd wouldn't be pounced on if you actually had an argument.
Cooter said:What's so funny about that Half Past? September Eleventh had a lot to do with hurting our economy.
The stock market fell, confidence fell and Government spending increased.
You haven't responded to my post. Can I conclude you now realize that it is you not living in reality?
HalfPastNoon said:how did the collapse of the two towers result in the aforementioned losses?
explain to me how that works.
RedDwarf said:Where did I say anything about Miller? You started picking on Democrats, realized you had no knowledge of politics and tried to back out by saying you don't care, but couldn't just leave... you to had say there was something cool about Bush. That's when I stepped in. Sorry, I couldn't leave that alone.
Hitokage said:Of course 9/11 had a great negative impact on the economy, but to elevate the event to catch-all bogeyman upon which all may be blamed is absurd.
Reality check:
1. Most people now think Iraq was a mistake.
2. National polls have no meaning, but even if they did the statistical tie continues. (That being said, bush has a slight edge on the electoral map currently)
3. http://www.zogby.com/images/fp/081404.gif
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3876748
4. The true depth of his out-of-touchness is shown in his domestic rhetoric. Yeah, that's right, there's more than terrorism out there.
Hitokage said:Of course 9/11 had a great negative impact on the economy, but to elevate the event to catch-all bogeyman upon which all may be blamed is absurd.
AeroGod said:Yes im stupid because I dont flex my awesome political muscle of knowledge. EVERYTHING MILLER SAYS IS A LIE!! IM AWESOME!! SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME@!!!!
Give me a f'n break. I dont care what you people think of me or my views(or lack of). You're like jackals that feed of of anyone that isnt like you/ OHH LOOK THAT PERSON ISNT A DEMOCRAT LETS ARGUE WITH THEM ON FORUMS!!!
SyNapSe said:I wouldn't argue that, but HalfPastNoon was posting as if 9/11 had absolutely no effect on the economy. Which is pretty unfair.
Che said:Calm down man. I understand you. It's simple, you don't give a shit about politics but you like Bush, cause there is something likable about him. It's pure logic.
3. Zogby is the only poll that has Bush's approval below 50 and your kidding me about a NPR poll. Go look at Gallup, Ramussen, Washington Post, La Times, ect.
1. http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aVqJwLuCXgQo&refer=usCooter said:1. not true, the majority of polls suggest otherwise.
2. Of course they have no meaning when Bush is is ahead and clearly has momentum.
3. Zogby is the only poll that has Bush's approval below 50 and your kidding me about a NPR poll. Go look at Gallup, Ramussen, Washington Post, La Times, ect.
4. Guess what Hito, terrorism is the most important issue in this campaign. Besides, this economy is growing and Bush has done all he could to encourage its growth. As you know Presidents have little to do with an economy.
Hey, Bush has spent more than a third of his presidency on vacation.
Since he enjoys not working so much, I'm just going to help him take a permanent one.
Cooter said:1. not true, the majority of polls suggest otherwise.
Cooter said:This is just retarded. The President is always on the job. That fact that he is not in the White House doesn't mean he is on vacation.
AeroGod said:I have no affiliation and I dont care. Im the typical American idiot. ANd yes Bush is cool. Kerry is cool too because he has extreme windboarding skillz. Edwards is awesome too because he is young and I think he has hot daughters, i dunno.
1. http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/new...uCXgQo&refer=us
2. Ad hominem, I suggest you not do that again.
3. My point was that the data doesn't all agree, which happens with margin of error fun.
4. http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
Worth It Not Worth It
% %
8/9-29/04 44 51
7/30 - 8/5/04 45 52
7/5-25/04 43 53
Among ALL adults:
6/16-30/04 41 52
4/1-14/04 43 51
3/1-15/04 46 49
1. you quote obscure polls instead of the major respect ones. Nice tactic.
I get a page not found error. Regardless, Bloomberg's obscure?
That Blitzer bit pasted above had a part about this.enjoy bell woods said:Zell Miller said:
I'd like to see that blasted all over television, juxtaposed with last night's speech.
GREENFIELD: Then why did you say in 2001 that he strengthened the military? You said that three years ago.
MILLER: Because that was the biographical sketch that they gave me. This young senator -- not young senator, but new senator had come up there, and all I knew was that this man had won the Purple Heart three times and won the Silver Star and...
Just because you can convince people you're in touch with them doesn't make it so.Cooter said:The President's approval rating is above 50%, he is leading in every poll and 15 plus percent of the American people trust him over Kerry to handle terrorism yet many here act like the President is some extremist out of touch with the American people.
Come on, man, cool off. I don't see, though, how you can place trying to stay informed in the issues lower than liking a speech because you like another man you admit will "fuck you in the ass".AeroGod said:Yes im stupid because I dont flex my awesome political muscle of knowledge. EVERYTHING MILLER SAYS IS A LIE!! IM AWESOME!! SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME@!!!!
Cooter said:This is just retarded. The President is always on the job. That fact that he is not in the White House doesn't mean he is on vacation.
"Vacation gibes are usually unfair. But with the situation in Iraq so critical, shouldn't the president be at the White House? It's a full-time job, comes with a decent salary."
Bush really is on vacation. Reuters reports April, 9, 2004, that "Hunters, Conservationists Get Tour of Bush Ranch".
Meanwhile, in late March 2004, there began a Shiite Muslim uprising in Iraq and steadily deteriorating situation marked by the development of a unification of Shiites and Sunnis in resistance.
On April 10, 2004, the Washington Post's Dan Balz and Jim VandeHei call attention to the fact that "Bush's Low Profile Questioned as Violence Flares in Iraq".
According to an August 2003 article in the Washington Post, President Bush has spent all or part of 166 days during his presidency at his Crawford, Texas, ranch or en route. Add the time spent at or en route to the presidential retreat of Camp David and at the Bush family estate in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. Although to be fair, much of this time is classified as a "working vacation."
What about Clinton? As of December 1999, President Bill Clinton had spent only 152 days on holiday during his two terms, according to CBS News.
And in barely three years in office, George W. Bush has already taken more vacation than Clinton did in seven years.
Celicar said:I love those two guys. Miller gave an AWESOME speech last night. I loved every second of it. He is cool in my book.
heavy liquid said:What about Clinton? As of December 1999, President Bill Clinton had spent only 152 days on holiday during his two terms, according to CBS News.
And in barely three years in office, George W. Bush has already taken more vacation than Clinton did in seven years.