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[DJ Demon J]

...Of course Hawaii was part of the US back then. It wasn’t a state, but it was a territory, as is Porto Rico, the NMI, American Somoa, Gaum, and the Virgin Islands (US.) Those people are American citizens.

And anyway, you all are forgetting the Civil War, a.k.a. the costliest war in American history. So far, no foreign power has been able to equal the ability of Americans to kill one another.

Sorry, meant to say, was not a state.

 

[firex]

I still think our current government needs to be purged. It's time to start over. No more incompetent old men who only serve rich constituents. Time to get back to a real sense of serving your country instead of voting in a raise to theirr own salary and letting corporations shove their hand so far up their asses that they turn into hand puppets.

 

[Mumbles]

Oh, certainly Al Qaeda would like NBC weaponry. Of course, other "bad guys" around the world are also trying to acquire them. Are you so sure that you know who all of them are? And, of course, NBC weaponry is NOT required to do a lot of harm -- "boring old explosives" work just as well, and are far more accessible. NBC stuff is hard to acquire, hard to make, hard to handle, and hard to deploy effectively. If they are such a threat -- and have been around for so long -- then how come they haven't been used anywhere else in the world to cause mass casualties? Yeah, there was a sarin attack in Japan...and the number of deaths was small, and aside from the scare factor, wasn't particularly effective.

I have to wonder - even if we were at a grave risk of a nuclear attack, what exactly has Bush done to stave it off? There's still plenty of nuclear material unaccounted for (eg. Russia), nuclear weapons in the hands of precarious regimes (eg. Pakistan), and nuclear scientists selling info to the highest bidder, and getting no real punishment for it (H. Q. khan). I can't see any way that this issue doesn't make Bush look bad.

 

[Kettch]

What has Bush done to stave off the spread of nuclear material? You should instead be asking what he's done to cause its release, such as the Iraq war.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,454441,00.html

Toxic, Deadly and All Over The Village
In Iraq, looters feast upon the Al Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center and inadvertently spread their radioactive bounty throughout the local villages
Friday, May. 23, 2003

There are still traces of yellow-brown powder around the side of the big rusty drum where Ali Awad stores gasoline. Ali says he bought it from a looter. His neighbors think he took it himself. The 50 gallon drum had been full of heavy yellow powder, Ali recalled, but the looter emptied it onto the floor of the store at the Al Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center one day in mid-April when local people literally dismantled Iraq's largest nuclear site. The powder — or yellow cake — could, however, eventually kill Ali and many other locals. It is mined uranium ready for enrichment. Ali dismisses the talk of danger. “People here use the barrels for drinking water, and they're all right,” he says.

Al Tuwaitha shut down on April 14th and 15th, center workers say. U.S. marines had been in the area since about the 4th, but, the U.S. military maintains, had neither the manpower nor the time to secure the site. In any case, there were no contingency plans to do so, a senior U.S. official told TIME. Planners had concluded that "there was little there in the way of militarily significant radiation sources" in the research center, the official said. "Looting was not expected and you didn't think that looters would go into storage areas with low-level radiation," he added. But they did.

They got pretty damn lucky that Iraq didn't actually have any WMD. Who knows where they would have ended up in the months we spent searching for them. Considering that I haven't been hearing the old "WMDs got sent to Syria/Iran!" comments from the administration any time recently, I guess they finally wised up to the fact that that scenario would signify a complete failure in their stated mission for Iraq.

 

[adam20]

I dont agree with what he said, not everything. And im not even a republican nor am I democrat. The pure fact of the matter is that I dont give a shit about politics. I just like Bush. I think he's a cool guy. Something about him that I like, I dunno. Maybe I feel sorry for him because he got delt a shitty hand of cards.

pretty dumb reason to support a president who plans to have 51% of all the tax cuts going to the rich by 2010. Nothing makes me more sick than the ppl who would vote for someone when they dont even have a clue what is going on. Do you even know anything about bush? Farenhiet 911 didn't even cover 5% OF IT.

 

[Triumph]

Are you seriously arguing that Al-Qaeda is not actively trying to acquire chemical, biological and nuclear weapons?

If no then I really have nothing further to say but if yes then who do you think they are planning to use them on?

Why would they want to attack us, though?

Why? Why, why why why motherfucking WHY?

"The terrorists hate freedom."

Sure they do. They hate it so much that the Netherlands, New Zealand, Switzerland, Canada and all the other countries that are actually have more freedom than us have been hit hard by these "freedom hating terrorists".

No, I think it might have something to do with interventionist foreign policies. Like unilateral support for Israel. Like our relationship with the Saudi family. Like the military bases that we have in Saudi Arabia and the dozen plus we plan on building in "liberated" Iraq.

So I can't possibly fathom why these people would want to fuck with us. Or Iran, where we installed the Shah. And then when the Shah fell, we backed Saddam against Iran. Or in Afghanistan, when we gave training and supplies to the mujahideen(amongst them Osama Bin Laden). And I don't know where North Korea would get any animosity towards the US- it's not like we've ever tried to interfere with the direction of their nation.

Maybe you're getting the point I'm trying to make. I seriously doubt it, as you've consistently proven to be one of the densest posters on these forums(worse than many Nintendo zealots, in my opinion). So I'll come out and say it plain. OTHER COUNTRIES AND PEOPLES DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THE US FUCKS AROUND WITH THEM. If you want to have your cake and eat it too, there's gonna be problems. Sooner or later, someone needs to take a serious, hard look at the positions the US has taken and continues to take and realize that what got us here isn't our freedom, it isn't our liberty or democracy. It's America's tendency to want to put it's nose and hands in the business of other countries. They need to realize that THAT is what got us here. And that if you want to win "The War on Terror", then you need to remove the root causes of terrorism.

Now, I'm sure you're clapping at this point and saying, "All right, let's kill all the muslims! Why didn't you say so in the beginning?" No. What I'm saying is, someone needs realize that our foreign policy is the direct cause of terrorism against our country. And that that policy must change. Sadly, neither of the two idiots picked to carry the standards of their parties this year has that capacity, in my opinion.

 

[Ill Saint]

^^ Word.

 

[Hamfam]

My God, just finished reading page 1. Aerogod is the most disgustingly ignorant person ever.

"I don't care about politics, it's complete shit! Btw, here's my incredibly rigid and strong opinion on a subject based on absolutely zero reasoning"

I just hope Bush gets re-ellected and drafts your ass to Vietnam.

 

[Triumph]

My God, just finished reading page 1. Aerogod is the most disgustingly ignorant person ever.

"I don't care about politics, it's complete shit! Btw, here's my incredibly rigid and strong opinion on a subject based on absolutely zero reasoning"

I just hope Bush gets re-ellected and drafts your ass to Vietnam.

Shhh! Vietnam is 4th on the list of Axis of Evil! Don't give away the secrets to Operation: Rest of the Brown Ones so easily!

 

[fart]

i liked dj tet's incredible lack of reading comprehension most.

 

[DJ_Tet]

i liked dj tet's incredible lack of reading comprehension most.

That's funny. I liked your lack of taking a real stand and defending it. I liked your ability to enter a thread and post a damning comment in 5 words or less. We've got something in common, we both like each other's posts. Except I don't perform a hit and run on you in a thread you weren't even involved in, and you...do.

You're a waste of a poster 'fart.'

Why would you attack me in a four page thread that I never even posted in? Why not attack me in the thread(s) that I post in?

Guess I'll leave that knowledge up to the mods, jerk.

 

[Hamfam]

Holt shit, I meant to say Iran, and I said Vietnam....that says something about this ellection.

 

[AeroGod]

My God, just finished reading page 1. Aerogod is the most disgustingly ignorant person ever.

"I don't care about politics, it's complete shit! Btw, here's my incredibly rigid and strong opinion on a subject based on absolutely zero reasoning"

I just hope Bush gets re-ellected and drafts your ass to Vietnam.

Angry much? See, your getting so pissed off. Wouldnt your life be much easier if you didnt care. YES? But no, your blind elitism lead you on. I pity you.

Who cares if I get drafted. I can just give myself 3 self inflicted wounds and get sent home, then many years later I can marry a rich woman and run for president and you can vote for me.

 

[Hamfam]

Uh, you seem just as bitter and hardheaded about expressing your opinion as anyone here.......the only difference being you're proud in having absolutely zero knowledge to back it up.

 

[AeroGod]

Uh, you seem just as bitter and hardheaded about expressing your opinion as anyone here.......the only difference being you're proud in having absolutely zero knowledge to back it up.

100% correct. Now that we understand each other...

 

[Dilbert]

Holt shit, I meant to say Iran, and I said Vietnam....that says something about this ellection.

Right idea, wrong decade!

 

[Dilbert]

AeroGod, DJ_Tet, Hamfam...please chill out.