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[BlastProcessing]

I mean I missed the thread he talked about.

That thread is only for Gaf Gold subscribers.

 

[Betta Lines]

I feel like two questions need answering...

1) Why did he feel like talking about DRM without saying DRM?

2) Why was there actually a GameCube controller, buttonless or otherwise, in a video made by Microsoft?

 

[Ragnarsson]

Amazing episode, once again. The DRM metaphor was pretty clever.

 

[Burt]

as I said in my other post, there is something wrong about this episode (and for the sake of this show I hope it's not GT doing)

I think Bosman et al. are just trying to avoid the minefield of gamer rage that seems to be popping up all over the Internet lately. I've definitely noticed before that he's always very careful to not offend anybody, to keep his show as positive as possible, and when he does say something that could be construed as a negative he says it lightly and in a humorous way. It's like a hidden rule. We're never going to see Bosman openly display a strong negative opinion on anything that isn't universally despised by both gamers and the industry. I don't think there's anything wrong with that and it hasn't affected the quality of the show, but it definitely was more obvious in this episode than it ever has been before, which is to be expected when broaching an issue as prickly as next gen DRM.

 

[rohlfinator]

Good episode, the elephant analogy was hilariously accurate.

1) Why did he feel like talking about DRM without saying DRM?

It was funny and a unique take compared to all the other discussions of the same issue? *shrug*

 

[MDSVeritas]

I dunno, he sound very fake in this episode.

I mean a long part focus on sales and how much Nintendo is almighty and rich and it's ok if they made more failure console? and best lineup just for one game? this is so not Kyle Boseman and not his style at all and not what this show is about (normal guy talk normally about games he love not about how much money that company own and games we didn't see yet), I guess GT just told him to do that so they don't lose the nintendo fans clicks after his lil Gamepad skit last time.

Bosman didn't bring out a lengthy section of sales charts and comparisons, he simply made two strong points that were pretty simple to understand to prove his point of how solid Nintendo as a business is. The fact that he took an episode to kind of say "calm down people" and make a point of what he thought Nintendo was- a unique and successful company that kind of rounds out the industry well, even if it's a bit strange and different- felt very "normal guy"ish to me. The guy seems to like Nintendo well enough, why is it so weird that coming up on E3 he makes another quirky episode explaining why they are still an interesting company to keep an eye on?

 

[demidar]

Nintendo not going third party is spot on. Sure, Nintendo could, but the problem isn't making a profit, it's making enough of a profit to sustain the entire workforce of Nintendo and second party. One of Nintendo's strengths is the geographic closeness of the hardware and software teams, but if they move to only software they lose that huge advantage.

Also Mario Kart is a juggernaut.

 

[taizuke]

My new favorite show on GT. Kyle is awesome.

 

[KHarvey16]

He's a very frank person. If this was done to prove a point, at the end of the "Gamecube with No Buttons" rant, he'd explain what he meant and the takeaway from the abstraction. He didn't do that.

Uh...it was a joke. Like you know, "oh we're gonna talk about that great big controversy guys! You know, the thing everyone is talking about! Which of course is...[this part is the joke]the buttonless gamecube controller![/end joke]

I don't think there's any deep meaning or attempt to equate it to a controller. It's just a little silliness for silliness sake. Lightening the mood a little.

 

[jett]

The elephant gag was funny as hell. I really like this guy.

 

[axisofweevils]

I expected the worst but really ended up enjoying this. And yes, the GC controller thing whooshed over my head too.

 

[sflufan]

What's great about Kyle is that he's able to get his points across without being coarse and that's something that's all too rare in videogame commentary.

 

[emb]

Was the GCN controller thing actually in one of the Microsoft clips? I assume he's just making up the thread and Twitter stuff about it... Either way I was pretty highly amused, both before and after realizing the analogy.

 

[Kajiba]

I had no fucking idea mario kart wii sold that much. My god.

 

[unbias]

Wow, dont visit game trailers much, but this guy is really good.

 

[NewGame]

I love this guy. He talks nicely about video games without swearing and jumping around like a moron.

He also likes video games; that's nice too.

 

[vdlow]

The elephant analogy is great and he playing this role is one of the funniest thing I've seen on the internet in some time.

 

[BD1]

The elephant comparison was hilarious.

I took the button-less GCN controller to be more a jab at Kinect and (maybe) EyeToy, but I guess DRM works too. (And probably the hotter topic.)

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

Another great video. Huge Bosman fan.

 

[mattchuuu]

I took the button-less GCN controller to be more a jab at Kinect and (maybe) EyeToy, but I guess DRM works too. (And probably the hotter topic.)

If you re-watch that segment with the DRM in your mind, it's painfully obvious.

 

[Uncle Rupee]

GT was smart to give him a show.
He's the new (and the only) reason I go to GT.

 

[Silver_DNA]

Without reading this thread I would have carried on with my life thinking that he was talking about a controller with it's buttons shopped out. Thank you all.

 

[Quadraphonic]

Uh...it was a joke. Like you know, "oh we're gonna talk about that great big controversy guys! You know, the thing everyone is talking about! Which of course is...[this part is the joke]the buttonless gamecube controller![/end joke]

I don't think there's any deep meaning or attempt to equate it to a controller. It's just a little silliness for silliness sake. Lightening the mood a little.

No. It wasn't silliness. You can take the entire transcript and replace the words "Gamecube Controller with no buttons" with "DRM" and it works completely. It's not even transparent. It's really obvious. If you've watched the other videos, or even in this one, about the elephant, he goes on to explain the metaphors a bit more.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Lol great as always. The bit at the end, so spot on haha.

 

[Speedwagon]

Wait, there was a Gamecube controller with no buttons in the Xbox One video?

 

[Theman2k]

Yeah, you really get it after the second watching.

Though i'm really concerned that they actually censored him!

Gaf detective on the double!!

 

[Tylahedras]

Yeah, you really get it after the second watching.

Though i'm really concerned that they actually censored him!

Gaf detective on the double!!

why would they censor him though, GT has discussed it at length and Marcus took them to task for it...

 

[Theman2k]

why would they censor him though, GT has discussed it at length and Marcus took them to task for it...

In which videos?
I failed to find them talking about drm adter that bonus round.

 

[Earthpainting]

I think we really do need a thread

Maybe we really do. Time to start a new hashtag for the eunuch controller. We need to get answers.

 

[Fistwell]

why would they censor him though, GT has discussed it at length and Marcus took them to task for it...

Guessing, maybe the cat is sort of out of the bag regarding sony because of keighley's comments in a GT video. That's sort of what triggered the whole tweet campaign. Maybe they dont wanna comment further, maybe they're afraid to be perceived as having instigated the whole thing?

 

[rrs]

Seriously, that Gamecube controller makes no sense. Not only are the buttons gone, so is the c-stick but the main stick is still there. There are no gaping holes where the buttons should be, so it's not like it's some broken controller they had sitting around. I'm genuinely interested in what is going with that controller.

And yes, I got what he was doing with his analogy. The controller is still bizarre.

Maybe microsoft took some "inspiration" from it.

 

[UrbanRats]

10/10 episode.

 

[wildfire]

What's great about Kyle is that he's able to get his points across without being coarse and that's something that's all too rare in videogame commentary.

That's so cute that you think this is a problem only endemic in videogame discourse. *pats head*

 

[Schnei871]

Really good episode for sure

 

[Thoraxes]

I just like that he seems like a dude that just likes video games and brings with none of the fanboy shitslinging to his viewpoints.

It's kinda refreshing.

 

[Kickz]

This guy so good, move over Sess you have competition for my fav videogame guy.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I think we really do need a thread

Get on with it! I need my 50 page thread!

 

[Fistwell]

Just to clarify, the no-button GC controller really is in the original xbone reveal video? It's not photoshopped in there or something?

Edit: I think he's having a laugh. Actually, I 100% believe he's reading this right now (or will read whenever he gets his lazyass out of bed) and is laughing at us.

Kyle, we know you're reading this, you hear?

DAMN YOU KYLE, DAMN YOU AND YOUR GATDAM BUTTONLESS CONTROLLERS!1

It is there.

Damn. Zee plot sickenz, like they say in France.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Just to clarify, the no-button GC controller really is in the original xbone reveal video? It's not photoshopped in there or something?

It is there.

 

[Monty Mole]

Definitely one of my new favourite shows on GT.

I also agree with him. Nobody is talking about Nintendo, and yet there's no reason why they can't end up "winning" E3 when all said and done, even without a conference.

Nintendo's hardware and policies are already out there. All they need to do is focus on the games - and given the drought over the last 6 months, there must surely be plenty of those on the way.

 

[demidar]

Remember last year, where Sony and Microsoft essentially handed E3 to Nintendo on a plate? All Ninty had to do was not fuck up, and yet...

What I'm trying to say is, the "winner" of E3 is not guaranteed, anyone can win and anyone can fuck up.

 

[delume]

Someone who seems to love gaming and get excited about the hobby? Refreshing and completely infectious. Thanks for sharing this show OP!

 

[Monty Mole]

Remember last year, where Sony and Microsoft essentially handed E3 to Nintendo on a plate? All Ninty had to do was not fuck up, and yet...

What I'm trying to say is, the "winner" of E3 is not guaranteed, anyone can win and anyone can fuck up.

Well, yes, obviously.

 

[Laranja]

For a minute there I really thought the controller controversy was real. I felt really silly when I realised what was going on.

As a side note: it boggles my mind to think that some people like videogames and, at the same time, dislike Nintendo. I was never a huge Nintendo fan, and the only time I played exclusively on their hardware was back in the 8-bit era, but their games have always been fun. How can anyone actively dislike having fun?

 

[mattchuuu]

Yeah, you really get it after the second watching.

Though i'm really concerned that they actually censored him!

Gaf detective on the double!!

He didn't explicitly mention DRM in last week's episode either. He again talked about it without talking about it, saying Microsoft failed to come forward about their policies during their reveal presentation and that the continuing update of new, unconfirmed information afterwards was so "scary" that he didn't even want to mention it on his show yet.

I don't know who is concerned or why, but I don't think Bosman did the controller metaphor just for comedy's sake.

 

[Fistwell]

As a side note: it boggles my mind to think that some people like videogames and, at the same time, dislike Nintendo. I was never a huge Nintendo fan, and the only time I played exclusively on their hardware was back in the 8-bit era, but their games have always been fun. How can anyone actively dislike having fun?

I wasn't able to find this "fun" you're talking about in any of the following: SMG1, 2, super mario land 3d, twilight princess, paper mario wii, new super mario wii u. I mean, I probably experienced some level of fun-itude at some points, but not enough to keep me playing. To each their own. What boggles my mind is that some people can't conceive others might have different tastes. *shrug*

 

[Laranja]

I wasn't able to find this "fun" you're talking about in any of the following: SMG1, 2, super mario land 3d, twilight princess, paper mario wii, new super mario wii u. I mean, I probably experienced some level of fun-itude at some points, but not enough to keep me playing. To each their own. What boggles my mind is that some people can't conceive others might have different tastes. *shrug*

Do you actively dislike Nintendo because you didn't have fun with those games?

Also, I understand that different people like different stuff, but not having fun playing Super Mario Galaxy (as an example) is something that my mind simply cannot comprehend.

I'm sorry I'm so close-minded.

 

[Midou]

Also, I understand that different people like different stuff, but not having fun playing Super Mario Galaxy (as an example) is something that my mind simply cannot comprehend.

I'm sorry I'm so close-minded.

I'm there too. There are a few games out there that I cannot understand people not enjoying SMG is certainly one of them.

I'm not even a big fan of Nintendo to be honest, I got the Wii a couple years after it came out, tried out SMG expecting it to be overrated because of all the internet hype, but it totally deserved it.

I find it unfortunate someone could not get into it. I also can't get into most first party titles from Sony/MS though.

 

[Fistwell]

Do you actively dislike Nintendo because you didn't have fun with those games?

Also, I understand that different people like different stuff, but not having fun playing Super Mario Galaxy (as an example) is something that my mind simply cannot comprehend.

I'm sorry I'm so close-minded.

No I don't actively dislike nintendo. I quit SMG1 about 1/2-way through I think. I tried the 2nd and gave up a cple of hours in. It's kind of interesting that many people (not just you, there was an entire thread on the topic recently) can't come to terms with the fact that some might like games in general, but not particularly enjoy nintendo games. I was commenting on that aspect, not the "actively disliking nintendo" bit. Although, my resentment is (appropriately enough) slowly growing over time whenever I have to wade through the wii u's slow as hell menus.

 

[Laranja]

I'm there too. There are a few games out there that I cannot understand people not enjoying SMG is certainly one of them.

I'm not even a big fan of Nintendo to be honest, I got the Wii a couple years after it came out, tried out SMG expecting it to be overrated because of all the internet hype, but it totally deserved it.

I find it unfortunate someone could not get into it. I also can't get into most first party titles from Sony/MS though.

That's my point. I love plenty of Sony's first-party catalogue, but can understand when people tell me it's not their thing.

Some of Nintendo's games, on the other hand, just seem like pure fun, happiness, and sunshine in game form. How can anyone not like that, let alone hate it?

No I don't actively dislike nintendo. I quit SMG1 about 1/2-way through I think. I tried the 2nd and gave up a cple of hours in. It's kind of interesting that many people (not just you, there was an entire thread on the topic recently) can't come to terms with the fact that some might like games in general, but not particularly enjoy nintendo games. I was commenting on that aspect, not the "actively disliking nintendo" bit. Although, my resentment is (appropriately enough) slowly growing over time whenever I have to wade through the wii u's slow as hell menus.

Well, I was obviously joking about not understanding people who don't find SMG fun, and I completely see your point, even if I don't agree with you.