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I was surprised by that ending (not Grodd but before that where the Firestorm guys had to leave). I was expecting Prof Stein to warn Barry not to trust Wells, or if Stein had forgotten I thought maybe Ron would have "seen" the memory of being drugged while merged and would tell Barry and Caitlin about it.

I guess I'm going to have to accept amnesia came along with that knockout drug.

I'm sure Wells played it off as "they hit you from behind with some kind of tranq while we were taking" and he just took his word for it.
 
I'm sure Wells played it off as "they hit you from behind with some kind of tranq while we were taking" and he just took his word for it.

Yeah, I just thought they would have used this as a catalyst for Wells to start being suspected but it looks like shit's going down next episode anyway.
 
Okay, the wait isn't two weeks? AHHHH! That fuckin' stinger man! Knew Eiling was a dead man the second he told Wells he knew the Flash was Barry, of course assuming Grodd kills him right away. All the Iris stuff is telling me is that she's going to find out soon. The only reason she doesn't know is because Joe told Barry not to. Imagine it's obvious that the next time we see Firestorm his powers are going to be expanded.

Oh and yeah, I think Cisco had the best lines. People saying Caitlin was the Felicity of this show were wrong, it's Cisco.

Why are the cw spoiling all the plot points of next week's jane the virgin?

edit - hey wait I missed her dress

Because there will probably be a lot more but JTV is off for three weeks so it's like "here's what's coming!"

Crazy theory guys. What if season two is Flashpoint? Like the finale is Barry going back to save his mother. And season two is the fallout.

Not that crazy really but it wouldn't be the whole season though I guess there could be some fallout after things are "fixed".


Get hype and it
looks like people were right about dueling Wellses.

No puns today. Just amazing.



They could totally pull off Flashpoint Paradox. They couldn't go into the depths of the comics but the two core stories in that film: Flash and his mother & Bruce and Thomas are still very easily represented, and you can substitute characters like Superman for Firestorm. Really it's just the Aquaman and Wonder Woman clash that would not be well represented.

It should not be a full season arc though. They can't disrupt Arrow that much. A 2-4 episode epic crossover would be great.

Two episodes of each show is what I've kinda been expecting because they've been totally going setting up the Flashpoint Paradox since the pilot. Gives each show some interesting start of the season though in Arrow's case an interesting gimmick to perhaps changing things up a bit for season four and really both shows once things are "fixed".

Obviously it'll be scaled down but it's totally doable.

2 long layoffs in one season? WTF CW?!

Well, they want to finish in May but it was worse last year IIRC with the Olympics and at least it isn't like ABC with some shows being off for almost three months. Still gives them time to catch up. It's just the way of TV shows with 22/23 episodes.
 
Eiling was good this episode with his anti-meta weapons. Hope they keep him around as an antagonist. Should of had anti-speedster defenses at his base so Wells couldn't capture him though.

I didn't get why Wells helped Eiling this episode only to send him to Grodd later.
 
Damn fine episode if I must say so. Had emotion, thrills, flash again getting outted as the flash. Hes almost arrow bad when it comes to hiding his identity. That ending, amazing.
 
And who the hell knew that Tom Cavanagh could have that much swag? I always liked the dude, but has he been bottling it up all these years? My wife always liked him because of the Snow movies, so she still thinks he is not totally a bad guy on the show.
 
Literally stepped away from the TV after the stinger like someone had just done some street magic. This show is too good.

Eiling was good this episode with his anti-meta weapons. Hope they keep him around as an antagonist. Should of had anti-speedster defenses at his base so Wells couldn't capture him though.

I didn't get why Wells helped Eiling this episode only to send him to Grodd later.

Maybe he needed to provide the motivation for Firestorm to bond correctly.
 
Can Barry go back in time and make Arrow Season 3 better? :(

SMH at the hate for Arrow season 3. It's still a good season it's just Season 2 reigns supreme for that series.

-Eiling using 1,000 needle on Flash. We Final Fantasy now
-That guard using Ice Missles. We Metroid now


"Not God, Grodd'
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Great episode. Yeah I think when it's all said and done S1 Flash will be better than S1 Arrow.
 
I knew Wells was using an after image to be at 2 places at once.

This is still confusing to me, because at one point that force field was definitely up 100%. Is Wells so fast he can change in and out of costume and vibrate through elaborate electronic apparatus repeatedly faster than anyone, even Barry, can see? Let's not ignore that Wells was being presumably treated for injuries he suffered at the hands of himself while he was simultaneously outside fighting Barry and Firestorm.

I think there's another wrinkle in this story, or the writers pulled a Kubo/Aizen handwave.
 
This is what I find bullshit, these shows where some General has a ridiculous amount of power.

Attempting to Executing a man in cold blood? Sure in some ass-backwards third world country. No US General would get away with that shit.

Comic book Waller is much more fucked up
 
Great episode. Yeah I think when it's all said and done S1 Flash will be better than S1 Arrow.

Not hard at all. People are shitting on S3 Arrow, but I don't think they remember just how bad the first 13 episodes S1 Arrow really were. Some serious rose tinted glasses going on. Short of Arrow and Flash both falling flat in the back 10 they'll both be better than S1 Arrow.
 
This is still confusing to me, because at one point that force field was definitely up 100%. Is Wells so fast he can change in and out of costume and vibrate through elaborate electronic apparatus repeatedly faster than anyone, even Barry, can see? Let's not ignore that Wells was being presumably treated for injuries he suffered at the hands of himself while he was simultaneously outside fighting Barry and Firestorm.

I think there's another wrinkle in this story, or the writers pulled a Kubo/Aizen handwave.
Wells wasn't moving so fast he was at both places at once. One version was from the future and went back to that moment to steal the tachyon stuff and exonerate Wells from being Reverse Flash. So, at one point soon, we might see a scene of Wells' clock going off with a reminder saying: "Go back in time. Beat up younger self. Steal tachyons. Have lunch. Bask in swag."
 
Not hard at all. People are shitting on S3 Arrow, but I don't think they remember just how bad the first 13 episodes S1 Arrow really were. Some serious rose tinted glasses going on. Short of Arrow and Flash both falling flat in the back 10 they'll both be better than S1 Arrow.

I don't think the first 13 episodes of Arrow are bad at all. That whole season was great hence why I compared to season 1 cause prior to this season that to me had the best rookie season in comic tv show history.
 
How many episodes are left this season? This two-parter and that preview feels like a lead-up to a season finale. The pacing in this show is crazy.
 
I don't think the first 13 episodes of Arrow are bad at all. That whole season was great hence why I compared to season 1 cause prior to this season that to me had the best rookie season in comic tv show history.

They're better than Gotham or Shield, but it's really not a high bar. Agent Carter and Flash have Arrow S1 well and truly beat.
 
I don't think the first 13 episodes of Arrow are bad at all. That whole season was great hence why I compared to season 1 cause prior to this season that to me had the best rookie season in comic tv show history.

Come on, they were objectively fucking awful for the most part. People gave SHIELD a lot of shit for its first 10-11 episodes, but they got their house in order quicker than Arrow and it's now the better show.

As far as comic book shows go, Arrow is just a step above Gotham, and that might not even last that long.

The Flash > Agents of Shield/Agent Cart > Arrow > Gotham
 
They're better than Gotham or Shield, but it's really not a high bar. Agent Carter and Flash have Arrow S1 well and truly beat.

Yeah we're at a disagreement then. You're half right about AoS though cause Captain America: TWS saved that show but Gotham has been a pleasant surprise.

Come on, they were objectively fucking awful for the most part. People gave SHIELD a lot of shit for its first 10-11 episodes, but they got their house in order quicker than Arrow and it's now the better show.

As far as comic book shows go, Arrow is just a step above Gotham, and that might not even last that long.


The Flash > Agents of Shield/Agent Cart > Arrow > Gotham

This opinion is particularly bad. Wow seriously
 
it is widely known that it is

Flash - Arrow - Constantine - Gotham - Agents of zzzzz.

Flash is top tier right now. Doesn't really have a wasted moment or a plot point, Arrow while it is having a down season, is still better then most shows.
 
Ronnie likes pineapple on his pizza

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There was a reason Stein was the brains of that outfit.

Wells wasn't moving so fast he was at both places at once. One version was from the future and went back to that moment to steal the tachyon stuff and exonerate Wells from being Reverse Flash. So, at one point soon, we might see a scene of Wells' clock going off with a reminder saying: "Go back in time. Beat up younger self. Steal tachyons. Have lunch. Bask in swag."

That's probably true. Though that means that some point in the time loop it was present day Wells who stole the Tachyon device, just so he could send himself back in time to create reasonable doubt and taunt Barry.
 
SMH at the hate for Arrow season 3. It's still a good season it's just Season 2 reigns supreme for that series.

-Eiling using 1,000 needle on Flash. We Final Fantasy now
-That guard using Ice Missles. We Metroid now


"Not God, Grodd'
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Great episode. Yeah I think when it's all said and done S1 Flash will be better than S1 Arrow.

That's not saying much. The half a season of Arrow I watched was hot garbage.
 
Caitlin waiting for Ronnie all this time would rather stay behind and play hero than spend time together. The scene when Ronnie recombined would have been more powerful if Caitlin said yes
At least Firestorm wasn't afraid of killing soldiers

What happened to that single Woman who owns the house lol

When Grodd finally speaks it'll be a moment like

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And Barry & friends will be like

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heh
like I said its gonna be CW and not this dramactic
 
Grodd da gawd.
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I do hope Firestorm gets a better suit.

A month break? What? :(

And come on fam. Arrow season 3 has been doo doo butter. The only saving grace has been Ray Palmer and Malcolm Merlyn the Swag Gawds, and Laurel and Team Arrow getting sick of Oliver's shit.

Will never understand this. Iris at her worst is 10x better than Laurel at her best.

People were hating Iris when she was just being Barry's fun supportive friend. Last week was the only time I felt like Iris haters had a case. So weird, the reaction to this character.
 
Yeah we're at a disagreement then. You're half right about AoS though cause Captain America: TWS saved that show but Gotham has been a pleasant surprise.



This opinion is particularly bad. Wow seriously

SHIELD has far better acting and the writing has progressively gotten much, much better than the start. They have never had any issues with delivering quality action scenes either. At its worst, SHIELD was mediocre. Arrow was barely tolerable, and if there is one thing I've noticed, the novelty has worn finally off and season 3 facing well-deserved criticisms.

it is widely known that it is

Flash - Arrow - Constantine - Gotham - Agents of zzzzz.

Flash is top tier right now. Doesn't really have a wasted moment or a plot point, Arrow while it is having a down season, is still better then most shows.

I doubt you've been watching season 2.
 
SHIELD has far better acting and the writing has progressively gotten much, much better than the start. They have never had any issues with delivering quality action scenes either. At its worth, SHIELD was mediocre. Arrow was barely tolerable, and if there is one thing I've noticed, the novelty has worn finally off and season 3 facing well-deserved criticisms.



I doubt you've been watching season 2.

The development of Oliver in the beginning, his relationship with Diggle, suffering defeat at the hands of Malcolm and the flashback to how he had to cope when he was on the island. Those were all great parts in the first half of season 1. I just think you don't like the show at all and that's fine and all but AoS pre Winter Soldier was a bunch of filler stories until the whole clairvoyant arc started to pick up at the mid season break. I mean don't get me wrong you're right about the action scenes being better. This season of AoS is around the level of S2 Arrow right now. S2 Arrow being the best season of the current comic shows right now.
 
For as much as SHIELD stans bill the Winter Soldier tie in as a big turning point, I wasn't really impressed. Maybe season 2 was this big turn around, but I've stomached about all I can of Coulson and the Scooby Gang.
 
In theory, could they do Thomas Wayne for a potential Flashpoint story & just allude to Bruce? Thomas is already dead on Gotham, & it's not like the movies are gonna go down the Flashpoint Thomas route.
 
The whole issue with the Flashpoint story is that Arrow and probably the Vixen web series is probably gonna run alongside that. Are they just gonna do the alternate storyline route and have him the alternate timeline and Arrow doing thing in the normal storyline. Plus they're making the crossover a seasonal thing so at best it would be just a small arc maybe after the crossover.
 
I loved how Cisco made the time travel explanation understandable to Joe, via relating it to movies. I thought that was both funny and brilliant.

Ailing is dead now? I thought he would be much bigger threat for a long period of the show.

I have to wait for the 17th of next month? Nooooooooooooo.


AOS season 2 is very average, only the first 2 episodes and the mid season finale were great.

Promo spoiler talk

Holy shit, too soon. I love it.
 
In theory, could they do Thomas Wayne for a potential Flashpoint story & just allude to Bruce? Thomas is already dead on Gotham, & it's not like the movies are gonna go down the Flashpoint Thomas route.

Why use Thomas Wayne? It contributes nothing to the story other than "we got an alternate universe Batman!".

Using Robert Queen lets the show explore a pretty major character in Oliver's life that has gone otherwise untouched. The altered timeline could give us Shado, Yao Fei, Moira or whoever else. Plus the really emotional ending for father and son is completely invalidated as we'll never see Bruce. Robert fills the role perfectly, and it contributes to the narrative and characters of both shows.

Ailing is dead now? I thought he would be much bigger threat for a long period of the show.

Grodd doesn't just kill and eat. He mind controls. Eiling not necessarily dead.
 
Why use Thomas Wayne? It contributes nothing to the story other than "we got an alternate universe Batman!".

Using Robert Queen lets the show explore a pretty major character in Oliver's life that has gone otherwise untouched. The altered timeline could give us Shado, Yao Fei, Moira or whoever else. Plus the really emotional ending for father and son is completely invalidated as we'll never see Bruce. Robert fills the role perfectly, and it contributes to the narrative and characters of both shows.



Grodd doesn't just kill and eat. He mind controls. Eiling not necessarily dead.
You just made me want Robert Queen as Green Arrow even more than having Thomas Wayne.

I'm also craving pizza.
 
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