The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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Nice addition there.

You should see what I've got in store for next week.

Also, here's the Season Finale synopsis - "Fast Enough"

Wells (Tom Cavanagh) presents Barry (Grant Gustin) with a life-changing choice. Dr. Martin Stein (guest star Victor Garber) and Ronnie Raymond (guest star Robbie Amell) return to help the S.T.A.R. Labs team with this final fight. Dermott Downs directed the episode with story by Greg Berlanti & Andrew Kreisberg and teleplay by Gabrielle Stanton & Andrew Kreisberg.
 
That clip
Grodd looks good but at the same time weird, though on a TV VFX budget it's still better than most shows as this show has been all season long. Jesse L. Martin sold the shit out of it though.

Don't think Iris being angry is going to be dragged on for the whole episode, hopefully Barry explains to her that it was Joe's fault and it kind of gets blown off given what goes on in the episode.


Wow. I wish those viewership numbers in terms of the percentage of viewers and total potential would translate into a similar viewership number in the U.S. Several shows would be doing A LOT better.
 
New episode today:
Season 1: episode 21 "Grodd Lives"

Barry must deal with the Reverse Flash’s latest threat to a member of the group. To make matter worse, Dr. Wells unleashes Grodd on the city in order to distract Barry and the team.
 
They show a picture of both of them in the Pilot, and one of them is definitely not Liam Mcintyre

Yeah this is the shot from the pilot:

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Obviously they would have had to get a new actor, it was the pilot after all and it was never certain that he'd be a character.
 
Yeah this is the shot from the pilot:

Obviously they would have had to get a new actor, it was the pilot after all and it was never certain that he'd be a character.

Ya I know! Always just fun to go back after you've watched a show and see how characters change
 
They had the same problem on Arrow with Sara. It was better in this case. If you showed Liam at that point, you'd knew he'd be coming.
 
I personally think Iris has every right to be upset about being kept in the dark. I hope they don't drag it out but her being mad wouldn't ruin the episode for me at all.

Anyway that new clip is intense. Can't wait to see the episode tomorrow.

Everyone has lied to her this whole time for no fucking reason at all. She has a right to be mad as fuck. But something tells me she won't be.
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but how does keeping Iris in the dark protect her from RF, exactly? Like... can he not hurt her if she doesn't know he exists? Are his powers contingent on his victims knowing Barry's identity now?

He doesn't kill people for fun -- and he has generally played by the rules he has set. Remember, the RF thinks he's a hero.
 
If Iris knew about the Reverse Flash earlier she would have investigated or pushed her luck with him and ended up like the senior reporter. We learned early in the season that she doesn't give up on any stories. At this point the Reverse Flash is out in the open and he's actively threatening her so now it makes a lot more sense to tell her.
 
He doesn't kill people for fun -- and he has generally played by the rules he has set. Remember, the RF thinks he's a hero.

Right, yeah, but how does lying to Iris change any of that?

See, that's the core problem with the "lie to them to keep them safe" secret identity silliness. That only applies if a) your enemies know that they (your family, friend, love interest, etc) have a relationship with your public identity, and b) believe that they don't know who your secret identity is.

In a situation like with Wells, where he knows both sides of the coin already, keeping Iris in the dark does no good whatsoever, and in fact could hurt matters. Nobody likes being told that they should stop doing something when the other party isn't even willing to honestly explain why.
 
They lied to Iris because the show initially copied heavily on the Maguire Spider-Man formula lets be honest. But then the show goes on to having Iris publicly investigate Flash, while secretly talking to him, and also being "related" to the guy. It makes zero sense that they don't just tell her and tell her stfu at that point. Having a public blog with Flash scoops makes her more of a target than simply knowing Barry.
 
Yeah this is the shot from the pilot:

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Obviously they would have had to get a new actor, it was the pilot after all and it was never certain that he'd be a character.

I wonder if they'll go back and redo that for the dvd/bluray release of the season and perhaps for reruns as well.
 
I was watching some JLU episodes last week and it got me wondering, will they keep the scary Grodd we have now or will they evolve him overtime into the charismatic, cocky Grodd.
 
More success around the world?

New Zealand plays Flash and Arrow back to back, I think they do quite well but I'd have to ask a friend with access to the NZ ratings to get a ballpark number.

In Germany the series started very well, but became an average performer for its broadcaster.
The season is now on break for the summer, show will return in the fall.
Gotham airs directly after it, Two & A Half Men was the lead in


Thank you :)
 
They lied to Iris because the show initially copied heavily on the Maguire Spider-Man formula lets be honest. But then the show goes on to having Iris publicly investigate Flash, while secretly talking to him, and also being "related" to the guy. It makes zero sense that they don't just tell her and tell her stfu at that point. Having a public blog with Flash scoops makes her more of a target than simply knowing Barry.

They really should have told her back when she first started that blog. Instead, in the episode, they just treat her like a child that should just do what they say even though their reasoning was flimsy at best. Now that she's "the girl reporter who knows The Flash" and thus has a target painted on her back anyway, and now that it's been demonstrated that she gets in danger constantly anyway, Joe's reasoning is just bullshit and poor writing tbh.
 
At the beginning of the season, I never thought they'd go for Grodd. There was the easter egg in the pilot, but I just didn't think it could be done in live action, not on television anyway.

Now they have, and I can't believe how good it looks.
 
At the beginning of the season, I never thought they'd go for Grodd. There was the easter egg in the pilot, but I just didn't think it could be done in live action, not on television anyway.

Now they have, and I can't believe how good it looks.

Yeah I think that was the assumption that everyone had. We all expected it to just be an easter egg but they're actually delivering on it.
 
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