The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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RedAssedApe
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kind of funny how cw actors always end up in like multiple shows on the same network.
simplythebest
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Wreck-It Ralph
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I never watched Smallville, but I really liked Lois in Superman TAS and it annoys me that she's not like that in every version.
He's been great, definitely one of the best things...Iris...not so much
Because the people running this show learned everything they know about The Flash by reading Wikipedia. Of course Johns should know better, but holy crap, it's idiotic. I said before that I would drop the show if they kept doing it. I'll give them a bit longer, see if they ever figure out that you can both run and punch at the same time. Hopefully it changes because it's dramatically hurting the show for me.
The problem here is that if he does this, 90% of his villains are no threat.
It doesn't matter how good The Rogues are, they shouldn't be able to touch Barry if he's got full on super speed. Ever. Only villains who are threats logically are Grodd and RF/PZ/Z. So to have genuine tension, Barry has to forget he can run and punch unless facing another speedster.
tringworldso
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I always thought it was because if he punched them at super speed they might die lol
That was over ten years ago. The software has improved substantially and they could be using better people too, both VFX and stunt/shooting for effects. TV industry much more capable than it once was.
simplythebest
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Thawne nearly killed an Amazon punching her 200 times in the face in a second. Obviously Barry could do the same. But like I said before, it would be a very short episode if Flash did exactly that to every damn villain he encounters.
Smallville set the ball rolling, Heroes pushed it pretty damn far. One good thing Heroes did was some kick ass effects work.
I love these poetically fitting origin stories.
Flash = hit by lightning when exposed to the particle accelerator
Multiplex = working on cloning when exposed to the particle accelerator
Mist = being executed by gas when exposed to the particle accelerator
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Flash = hit by lightning when exposed to the particle accelerator
Multiplex = working on cloning when exposed to the particle accelerator
Mist = being executed by gas when exposed to the particle accelerator
Was
Captain Cold in a fridge or something
serenewarfare
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The problem with that is that if that was what set her off, then why would
Ronnie
Cisco
No, he was trying to break his brother out of prison.
Those two didn't lose a loved one as far as we know. Plus people face grief differently.
I also don't think Captain Cold has powers, hence the Cold Gun.
simplythebest
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Cold gun? Then later on they go with New 52 origin of how he made himself into a metahuman?
Well, H.I.V.E. was named dropped on Arrow last season. So have agents from that organization attack S.T.A.R labs and she gets exposed by some coolant system which gives her the powers she should have during the scuffle?
Right?
The effects look stupidly good. Hope they don't do a smallville and end up reusing the same 4 sets because of budget.
I get the feeling that eventually someone's going to just release all the villains.
Calling it.
serenewarfare
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Well yeah, I can see how she gets her powers. I'm just not seeing, in the current form of her character, what would lead her to be a villain as opposed to a hero.
I'm still hoping for an Arrow/Flash crossover season where everyone escapes from SuperMax. Or a season of Ollie trapped on the island with everyone he puts in SuperMax. Basically the premise of that Green Arrow movie that got canned.
his narration delivery is really bad
simplythebest
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The fact that version of KF needs sources of heat to survive, Stealing body heat from other people heals her condition for a bit. So that is were the conflict should come from. This is also where the conflict with Ronnie/Firestorm will come form as stealing his due to the nature of his power would cure her condition.
Or she could just have frequent sex with Ronnie. That should suffice.
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I see what I did there.
simplythebest
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The Vince McMahon gif I posted earlier should suffice as a reaction to this post.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Great episode. Thoughts tomorrow, but it's good to see two old men crying about their past on the CW.
Well...
... AW YEAH
Well...
... AW YEAH
Coffee Dog
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I will say that the Flash Museum line was legit unexpected. Really glad these guys know their flash.
Erica Durance does an excellent job. Really surprising.
Hours Left
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Good episode, though the final fight was kinda lame. (Especially the end.)
Please have Captain Singh do more than just scowl at people. I'm also ready for more Robbie Amell.
Please have Captain Singh do more than just scowl at people. I'm also ready for more Robbie Amell.
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Napoleonthechimp
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I can't wait for the inevitable montage of Professor Wells whipping off those glasses before being mysteriously evil.
I should certainly hope so. It'd be a bit of an oversight if they started writing The Flash tv series without knowing everything about it.
I should certainly hope so. It'd be a bit of an oversight if they started writing The Flash tv series without knowing everything about it.
Hours Left
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Unless he's bi, I think his character is all about the ladies.
The gayness is coming though~
From what I understand Johns didn't merely help develop it, he's a full-blown co-creator of the show. And he's in the top five when it comes to Flash comic-book writers, so I'd say it's in good hands.
I mean shit, Mark Waid likes it. And after Marvel/Thrillbent his 3rd career is bitching about DC stuff on Twitter.
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cbrotherson
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Like the show, but the on-the-nose/cute dialogue is getting a bit too much, now. If there was a drinking game where you'd have to do a shot whenever someone used a speed related pun or referenced a character's powers (future or current) via a name or otherwise unrelated dialogue, we'd all be dead within the first 10 minutes.
What really bugged me about the most recent episode was that Simon Stagg - the subject of nearly being murdered during the entire last episode - was actually murdered at the end of that episode and it wasn't mentioned at all.
I mean, if the prof
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Even if the above is a possible and Stagg's body has just gone, there should be at least some acknowledgment that he's suddenly disappeared, given his status and the whole hoo-ha in the previous episode... just seems kinda poor to ignore it when the show uses the police/detective work and the media as a principle factor.
What really bugged me about the most recent episode was that Simon Stagg - the subject of nearly being murdered during the entire last episode - was actually murdered at the end of that episode and it wasn't mentioned at all.
I mean, if the prof
is Zoom and he got into the building to commit the murder via super speed, then he's still lugging that old wheelchair around to keep up the pretence before he does his old 'take the glasses off, stand up' and stabby.
Even if the above is a possible and Stagg's body has just gone, there should be at least some acknowledgment that he's suddenly disappeared, given his status and the whole hoo-ha in the previous episode... just seems kinda poor to ignore it when the show uses the police/detective work and the media as a principle factor.
Speculation / Predictions:
Wells & Eddie?
An event that becomes a catalyst for everything that happens?
Nora's death
Dissolution of the STAR labs team?
Future episodes or flash-forwards?
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Wells is definitely from the future, the show has now sufficiently telegraphed that to the viewer. From the first cliff-hanger, to the advanced technology in Wells' secret room, to this episode's "I feel like I've waited centuries for this moment". People have speculated that he's future Barry etc, but it's looking more likely he's someone else
Wells & Eddie?
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I think he may be a descendant of Eddie Thawne, or someone with a vested interest in seeing Eddie gain his powers. Certainly some kind of enemy from the future, or someone without Barry's best interests at heart.
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I'm unsure how long the writers plan to drag out Wells' hidden intentions, and how long it will take Barry to become aware himself- but I could conceive of this season climaxing with at least a reveal of his plans to the viewer.
An event that becomes a catalyst for everything that happens?
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I can see something happening to Iris that motivates Eddie, drives him mad, or makes him amenable to Wells' master-plan -- I can't see the show killing her, but they could do something bad enough to her (or her father, Eddie's partner!) that forces Eddie to come in to combat with the Flash by the end of the season.
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As his power wouldn't involve speed force (actually moving fast) but instead being able to manipulate space-time around himself, it explains how the time travel would be possible in the first place. If Wells has similar powers it would also explain how he and his chair got in to Stagg's office without alerting security. It would also explain how and why we have red and yellow flashes zipping around Nora Allen before she dies.
Nora's death
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A big part of the season's reveal might be what the two flashes were doing there in the first place. If you watch episode 1 again, you will notice its the yellow flash who spirits young Barry Allen away from the scene. Why? If he does that, he can't have been there to kill the flash. So was he there just to make sure he became the flash? Is the Flash trying to stop himself getting his powers, as well as trying to save his mom?
Dissolution of the STAR labs team?
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We are already speculating on the destiny for Caitlin Snow, and this episode again seemed to be foreshadowing Firestorm
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Could the revelation of what really caused the catastrophe at STAR Labs be the thing that drives Caitlin over the edge?
Future episodes or flash-forwards?
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The futuristic newspaper clipping from Episode 1 - is that simply a factual news clipping taken from the future - or is it actually some kind of Back to the Future, ever-changing-photograph style device? Could the news change as Wells changes the past? Could that be how the show lets us know what happens in the future?
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OR - is the show brave enough to actually show us the future at some point? It could do it through a Wells flash-back (flash-forward), or they could actually fling Barry in to the future, like the 1990 CBS series did. It would be cool to see Barry having his mind blown by a real actual Flash Museum, that he said he wouldn't want in this very episode
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Wells COULD actually still be a good guy. Or a guy of ambiguous morality at least. If the show is somehow crazy and mental enough to do an ode to Crisis on Infinite Earths, then the Flash NEEDS to be sacrificed in 2024 to save the world. Could it be that the show will make some meta-human the threat to Earth rather than the anti monitor? That would be more doable. Flashes disappearance then wouldn't have to mean his death either, it could be that he's simply gone somewhere else. The show has plenty of room to manouvre and surprise, even if the pilot's cliffhanger was a definite reference to Crisis.
Maybe Wells is a more neutral time traveler just trying to keep things in order (possibly to counteract another's influence) instead of a nemesis. Maybe Rip Hunter or a character like that? But then I think the fact that it seems he specifically engineered Barry's origin makes that less likely. Doesn't really seem like he is just keeping things on the rails.
Cornballer
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- Extended promo for next week's episode *please spoiler tag any discussion*
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so loluhm are they are going to feed these prisoners? And how big is that area that they can alter it to fit each metahuman
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Deleted member 102481
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I wonder if Wells will look to the future for something arrow related in the episode 8 crossover
This was a problem I had with the end of Arrow Season 2
They left Slade in a prison, on an uninhabited island, with what appeared to be - no-one to feed him and keep him alive. Being Slade though, I'm sure he'll swag his way out of that predicament!
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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so every episode ends with the guy in the wheelchair standing up and taking of his glasses is funny
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Deleted member 102481
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the montage will we get on youtube in may will be worth.
Plus it's a fun thing to count we are 3/3 or 3/22 right now
PHOENIXZERO
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I'm quite sure their knowledge extends beyond Wikipedia. Not punching people at super speed is just like the issues with inconsistent power scaling, it's a staple of pretty much a staple of superheroes and their comics. It's not something exclusive to just this show but it's for the same reason, because they don't want the villain to be taken down in five seconds and they need to be shown to be threats.
The technology improvements, aided by advancements in VFX from movies that can be affordably scaled down to TV now.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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it will be a episode of its own lol
the_firewithin
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we should get a fringe type doing where hes from earth 2 and they flashback back to him crossing over
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