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Uh... if he's running super fast then he's using the speed force. I really don't think there's a moment when he's running 800mph and not using it.

But one thing has changed recently: He's now super charged and likely tapping into it on a deeper level, and according to Caitlin, he's doing it without thinking.
 
The Flash Midseason Finale to Run an Extra Two Minutes

There’s only one more 2014 episode left of The CW’s new hit DC Comics series, “The Flash”. Titled “The Man in the Yellow Suit,” the midseason finale will air Tuesday, December 9 at 8:00pm ET/PT. You may have to adjust your DVR, however, as The CW has just announced that the episode will run long, extending nearly two extra minutes.

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/3...n-finale-to-run-an-extra-two-minutes#/slide/1
 
Uh... if he's running super fast then he's using the speed force. I really don't think there's a moment when he's running 800mph and not using it.

There's a difference between having super speed and being able to access the speed force directly, at the very least the distinction has been shown in the show. There are only a few times that they've noticeably shown Barry going much faster than usual. When he saved Wells and when he punched bootleg Colossus are the two I can remember off hand. They haven't really acknowledged whether he's been able to hit those kinds of speeds regularly yet but he doesn't seem to be using top speed every time he's using speed.

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But one thing has changed recently: He's now super charged and likely tapping into it on a deeper level, and according to Caitlin, he's doing it without thinking.

Have they said that directly? The closest thing to a confirmation of that was Wells saying something like "I think you hit the next level" but that doesn't confirm that he's that fast all the time as it could just as easily mean he's hit a new top speed. And if he's traveling at that top speed all the time, then how was Ollie able to hit him at all when he was speeding around him? Even a lucky connect should've wrecked Ollies hand an arm at that speed.
 
Have they said that directly? The closest thing to a confirmation of that was Wells saying something like "I think you hit the next level" but that doesn't confirm that he's that fast all the time as it could just as easily mean he's hit a new top speed. And if he's traveling at that top speed all the time, then how was Ollie able to hit him at all when he was speeding around him? Even a lucky connect should've wrecked Ollies hand an arm at that speed.
Caitlin showed him an image of his cells before and after his final battle with Blackout. In the latter case his cells were "supercharged". The Flash doesn't always travel at his top speed (whether that be in the comics or TV show) so his upper limit could have increased substantially without him knowing it.
 
Caitlin showed him an image of his cells before and after his final battle with Blackout. In the latter case his cells were, as she literally put it, "supercharged". The Flash doesn't always travel at his top speed (whether that be in the comics or TV show) so his upper limit could have increased substantially without him knowing it.

Hmm. I guess I didn't associate his cells being more efficient as a confirmation that he can tap into that speed whenever he likes. I thought of it like the ability to get there is easier but he can't necessarily hit those peaks unless he has that emotional component.
 
Hmm. I guess I didn't associate his cells being more efficient as a confirmation that he can tap into that speed whenever he likes. I thought of it like the ability to get there is easier but he can't necessarily hit those peaks unless he has that emotional component.
Also, from the episode:

Caitlin: "You finally stopped thinking about your powers and just connected to them."
 
Yeah, see, that still strikes me as an in the moment thing. When the emotions hit that point everything just went. I think I just need to see them acknowledge it during a diagnostic where nothing is on the line. Something like,

Cisco: Are you doing something different?
Barry: Same things I do for all of these tests. Why?
Caitlin: You're hitting speeds we've rarely seen you reach before. You're almost too much for the treadmill now.
Cisco: I wouldn't go THAT far.
 
I wish they would somehow redesign the collapse mask, or just remove it completely, because there's no way that mask collapses into that hoodie :D
 
I wish they would somehow redesign the collapse mask, or just remove it completely, because there's no way that mask collapses into that hoodie :D

I wish they'd redesign the entire mask. It looks really awful and has no point. It doesn't cover his face enough to protect his identity and the lower half of his face doesn't seem to need and protection either. Maybe it's the chin that bothers me so much. Or the material, I don't know. But something is off and it looks bad and Cisco should feel bad for designing that, Wells should feel bad for letting it happen and Barry should feel bad for wearing it.
 
I wish they'd redesign the entire mask. It looks really awful and has no point. It doesn't cover his face enough to protect his identity and the lower half of his face doesn't seem to need and protection either. Maybe it's the chin that bothers me so much. Or the material, I don't know. But something is off and it looks bad and Cisco should feel bad for designing that, Wells should feel bad for letting it happen and Barry should feel bad for wearing it.
The mask looks awesome
 
So while I'm watching this series I'm starting to realize I really don't like Iris. She's ranking under Lois Lane right now on the list of oblivious and reckless reporters/journalists.
 
From this spoilerific picture,
RF looks an awful lot like Grant Gustin. Maybe it's actually neither of them?

Ya I've thought of that idea lately, too.
It makes sense that Reverse Flash is a more evil version of Barry from the future.

In the future, older Barry taps into Speed force, becomes evil, and kills someone close to Wells. Wells builds some contraption to control Reverse Flash, he is on a leash. He goes back in time with Reverse Flash, and tries to get RF to kill little Barry. To his surprise, there is a good and younger Flash (our Barry) there to stop RF. Good Flash saves himself, the younger Barry, so he can exist in future, but his mother dies in the process. Wells is shocked and sees that the good flash is probably the result of this new timeline of the mother dying, and the speed force (likely man-made) coming to Barry at a younger age. He changes course, and spends the next 10 or so years building a fake speed force 'accident' (the particle accelerator plus a futuristic control of weather/lightning he knew how to do.) He then makes sure the accident happens correctly, and trains Barry to stay calm, be a good Flash, and train hard enough where he can beat RF when he goes out of control (next episode). The problem is I dont know exactly where Eddie fits in my theory.

This is my theory on what the story of Reverse Flash is in the show.
 
I'm pretty sure speed force is already in effect. The way he carries and moves people around at speed, the acceleration would kill them if not for speed force.

Yeah, I don't think they'll say it outright, but they did allude to it in the episode before last. Something along the lines of "your powers can't be taken away because they're stuck to your cells, you just managed to become in tune with your powers"
 
Super behind you all because I'm watching in the UK, but I have to say it's pretty stupid that Barry can dodge bullets and not punches.

Edit: I'm talking about the metal guy episode, which I guess was about a month ago for the rest of you.
 
- HitFix: Mark Hamill cast on 'The Flash'
"The Flash" is staging another homage to the '90s "Flash" series, bringing back Mark Hamill to reprise his role as James Jesse, aka Flash villain the Trickster.

The Trickster was the most memorable villain from the short-lived CBS "Flash" series, with Hamill taking the role so far in a Joker direction that he was unsurprisingly cast to voice the actual Joker through years of Batman and Justice League cartoons and video games.

The CW "Flash" already cast the CBS show's star, John Wesley Shipp, as father to Grant Gustin's Barry, but with Hamill — who will appear in the season's 17th episode, sometime in 2015 — the new show gets to have it both ways. Hamill will again play James Jesse, but with the twist of a new Trickster (presumably based on the one Geoff Johns introduced during his original run in "The Flash" comic) out there for Barry to stop. Per the character description:

"Mark Hamill returns in a brand new interpretation of James Jesse (aka The Trickster), a role he originated on the 90's 'Flash' series. In this new iteration, The Trickster is an anarchist terrorist con man serving a life sentence in Iron Heights who helps Barry (Grant Gustin) and Det. West (Jesse L. Martin) to foil the city-wide attacks of a wannabe Trickster eagerly following in the original's deadly footsteps. The episode will reunite him with John Wesley Shipp who went up against him as the original 'Flash' on the CBS version."

"Flash" executive producer Andrew Kreisberg said, "Having Mark reprise his role as The Trickster was on our original wish list when we were planning our version of The Flash. Christmas and Chanukah came early for us this year when he said yes! We are beyond humbled and excited to have him joining us for another round of deadly trickery!"
 
We just need a Julio citing now!

Yeah, citing is what I want to use...

But who shall he be... Maybe Det West's former partner?

Or what if he is his brother and Wally's like father?

(Since people were suggesting Wally could be Iris' cousin)
 


Woah. That is fantastic! Hype!

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Hamill is appearing in one of the biggest films of all time in 2015...and appearing on CW that same year. Dude is a true geek
 
Wow, I mean it's Mark Hamill so it's not that surprising but that's still a cool call back, only behind John Wesley Shipp, I'd put Hamill above Pays though just because Hamil is a bigger name and is going to be a part of a huge movie next year. I think they've made it abundantly clear that they were fans of the 90s show.

Is there anyone left to bring back from the old show who had a role of any significance?

EDIT: Oh I guess David Cassidy? With Black Canary crossover?

I love the.. love they are giving to the original series.

Which I'm sure like 5 people watched 2 decades ago!

Nah, a lot of people watched it compared to how many people watch TV these days though back in 1990-91 the ratings weren't anything to write home about, it just got screwed by an unfortunate time slot opposite of The Cosby Show and the Simpsons along with multiple preemptions on top of being very expensive to produce.

At least 50 remember watching it back then.
 
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