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[EroticSushi]

Loved this bit.

 

[Pachimari]

That was a wonderful scene and actually managed to stress me out. But the clouds the Weather Wizard could make out of his hands in the opening of this episode looked really weak, effects wise.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I think that scene between Wells and Cisco might be one of the best scenes I've seen on TV in the last few years. Rewatching it, the actors just killed it. Cisco realizing that he's dead, and that dread growing, and Wells' coldly revealing the truth, but you seeing cracks that he genuinely wishes the situation wasn't what it was.

Man, Cavanagh is just perfect as Wells/Eubord/Reverse Flash. Cause he doesn't feel like an out-and-out villain. You get the sense that he believes he's doing the right thing, even if it's kinda narcissistic (just to return home).

It's like when he calls Cisco the closest thing he has to a son, you genuinely believe cause he genuinely believes it.

 

[Slixshot]

That was a wonderful scene and actually managed to stress me out. But the clouds the Weather Wizard could make out of his hands in the opening of this episode looked really weak, effects wise.

Lightning looked great, and clouds looked like.. clouds... But agreed: the ice balls looked like shit.

 

[Pachimari]

Lightning looked great, and clouds looked like.. clouds... But agreed: the ice balls looked like shit.

Yeah. I meant the ice balls looked crap. But all the other effects were top notch.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I think over the next few weeks, this GIF is gonna get some mileage:

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Damn, that was a great episode.

 

[tirminyl]

Wow, great episode. I loved that police station scene!

Also, is it just me or did I detect hints of Storms theme?

 

[GulAtiCa]

Wow! That was an excellent episode. Just wow.

 

[Pachimari]

Wow, great episode. I loved that police station scene!

To me that was the weakest part of the episode. It seemed very strange that Weather Wizard could just walk in like that, but what were even more strange to me, was when none of Joe's coworkers even notices that the Weather Wizard has arrived at the police station until Joe gets throwned through the glass.

 

[Joe Prodigy]

Crazy episode! Hopefully he can save Cisco.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I hope Mark Hamill brings the requisite swag for the role. I can't wait.

 

[tirminyl]

To me that was the weakest part of the episode. It seemed very strange that Weather Wizard could just walk in like that, but what were even more strange to me, was when none of Joe's coworkers even notices that the Weather Wizard has arrived at the police station until Joe gets throwned through the glass.

I ignored all of that and only cared about the power use. Seriously though, every single show and movie uses the trope of a known bad guy walking into the police station and people only caring when the protagonist spots them.

 

[Pachimari]

I ignored all of that and only cared about the power use. Seriously though, every single show and movie uses the trope of a known bad guy walking into the police station and people only caring when the protagonist spots them.

It just seemed so surreal and took me out of the moment. I couldn't stop looking to the background and see if anyone would even react but nope. That's my only issue.

 

[Hamlet]

What an episode. Those last 10 minutes and that ending wow. To think this is only the first season.

 

[Schweinehund]

Loved this bit.

Looks really good.

Would love to see Black Adam as a villain for the JLA series, though he may be out of their league still.

 

[Effect]

I think that scene between Wells and Cisco might be one of the best scenes I've seen on TV in the last few years. Rewatching it, the actors just killed it. Cisco realizing that he's dead, and that dread growing, and Wells' coldly revealing the truth, but you seeing cracks that he genuinely wishes the situation wasn't what it was.

Man, Cavanagh is just perfect as Wells/Eubord/Reverse Flash. Cause he doesn't feel like an out-and-out villain. You get the sense that he believes he's doing the right thing, even if it's kinda narcissistic (just to return home).

It's like when he calls Cisco the closest thing he has to a son, you genuinely believe cause he genuinely believes it.

Love that scene. I think it was in a deadline interview that said originally Cisco wasn't suppose to be crying. That was the actor's call and I don't think that scene is as effective without Cisco crying. So good call.

 

[Hamlet]

Love that scene. I think it was in a deadline interview that said originally Cisco wasn't suppose to be crying. That was the actor's call and I don't think that scene is as effective without Cisco crying. So good call.

Yep

Kreisberg also revealed that the scene’s real emotional impact was a product of a collaboration between the actors and writers. “We didn’t even script that [Cisco] cries; it was a notion that Tom and Carlos worked out where the minute Tom walks into the room, Carlos knows he’s going to die. It wasn’t even something we intended, it’s what they brought to it.”

Great change as it made the scene so much more emotional and some great acting from Carlos Valdes there.

 

[The Hermit]

Loved this bit.

this scene truly impressed me. Who is the guy in charge of CGI of this show, he/she is amazing

 

[Tuck]

Found the start of the episode to be kind of rough - pretty cliche to be honest. Oh, Berry is on a date and of course Eddy and Iris are there and of course they do a double date and both Eddie and Berry's girlfriend feel the connection between Berry and iris. It was just so generic, unoriginal and obvious what the writers were doing.

The rest of the episode fared much better. The ending in particular was very well done. The scene with Cisco and Wells was fantastic, and I'm interested to see where they go next.

Show continues to be a somewhat mixed bag for me (though skewed to the positive side, ad definitely enjoyable/fun). Some parts are really impressive, other parts continue to be clunky.

EDIT: Rest of season trailer is mad hype.

 

[The Technomancer]

Does anyone know how much pre-planning goes into this show? Because right now if Wells' big plot was to just get back to his own time and he had to kill Barry in the past for some reason I'm really curious just why he was so concerned in those first few episodes with using his magic computer to make sure that barry was still around in the future or whatever

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Ballsy episode until they undid all the interesting developments with the dumb time travel thing at the end. At least Barry's arc moved forward, if nothing else.

 

[Tabby]

Does anyone know how much pre-planning goes into this show? Because right now if Wells' big plot was to just get back to his own time and he had to kill Barry in the past for some reason I'm really curious just why he was so concerned in those first few episodes with using his magic computer to make sure that barry was still around in the future or whatever

Well there's definitely more to it than Thawne wanting to get back to the future. After all, he did say they've been at this a long time.

 

[Mix Master]

I need a gif of WW in the pickup truck, shit looked wonky as fuck

 

[Septimus Prime]

To me that was the weakest part of the episode. It seemed very strange that Weather Wizard could just walk in like that, but what were even more strange to me, was when none of Joe's coworkers even notices that the Weather Wizard has arrived at the police station until Joe gets throwned through the glass.

That one guy wouldn't even get off the phone.

 

[Entryhazard]

Although the episode is fantastic I'm iffy at the thunderbolt scene as cars should be Faraday cages

 

[Blader]

Eh, honestly most of the DC Animated movies are complete garbage that are just pandering to people who are already pretty big fans of the brand or characters. Flashpoint Paradox is fortunately not one of those and fairly well done...but I really wouldn't say most of them are.

Is it actually that good? I kinda bowed out of those after Dark Knight Returns, which was great, but I found most of the movies pretty meh if not bad and DKR seemed like a high note to finish on.

I loved Under the Red Hood, Wonder Woman, and DKR, and was lukewarm at best on all the others (though I kinda have a soft spot for Gotham Knight). Maybe I'll check out Flashpoint.

 

[TDLink]

Is it actually that good? I kinda bowed out of those after Dark Knight Returns, which was great, but I found most of the movies pretty meh if not bad and DKR seemed like a high note to finish on.

I loved Under the Red Hood, Wonder Woman, and DKR, and was lukewarm at best on all the others (though I kinda have a soft spot for Gotham Knight). Maybe I'll check out Flashpoint.

You seem to be of similar mind on this subject so I'll say this: people here are probably overhyping Flashpoint Paradox. That said, I found the exact films you pointed out (along with Flashpoint) to be the ones I enjoyed/thought were good while the rest were pretty bad. I think Flashpoint isn't as good as Red Hood, WW, or DKR...but between them and the rest of the garbage in quality.

 

[Pachimari]

That one guy wouldn't even get off the phone.

Especially that one guy.
The whole scene seemed off.

 

[JDSN]

That was pretty cool, time travel was introduced but I really hope they commit to killing Cisco on the new one too, it would really make that fantastic scene sink in. A damn shame that I care more for the relationship between the chief and the husband than the totality of Iris and Barry, in the Arrowverse the protagonist's main romance is boring by design because they are supposed to be together by the end of the show's run.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Flash/Arrow GAF i ask thee:

Is there any overly dramatic romantic triangle scene that wouldn't be made better with Radioactive?

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Flash/Arrow GAF i ask thee:

Is there any overly dramatic romantic triangle scene that wouldn't be made better with Radioactive?

No. Radioactive makes everything better.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

I don't recall Wally being mentioned on this show yet...?

I'm assuming 2024 Flash went back in time when he disappeared. We don't really know what happened there either.

I was mixing in old comic story with it. We know what happened though because the reason is the comic reason that was responsible for rebooting the DCU back in 1986.


Was the extended promo posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSr43Vhd9A

Remember spoiler tag discussion and all that.

 

[LumpOfCole]

I was mixing in old comic story with it. We know what happened though because the reason is the comic reason that was responsible for rebooting the DCU back in 1986.


Was the extended promo posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzSr43Vhd9A

Remember spoiler tag discussion and all that.

I wonder if the next episode is going to be like Cause and Effect

 

[Joni]

This should have been before the break, because this was at least winter finale level episode.

 

[Jonogunn]

Central police cops are the worse and they have proven again how useless they are.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Central police cops are the worse and they have proven again how useless they are.

They already know superpowers exist, but they seem to have taken zero measures to figure out how to combat them asides from "Let The Flash deal with it."

Though Flash is basically their superpowered backup... unpaid AND paid!

It'd be interesting to see future seasons deal with the cops being forced to upgrade themselves and their capabilities in order to deal with future superhuman threats. Things like thermal goggles to track people who can go invisible, that weather wand, some sort of Ghostbusters vacuum to suck up the douchebag Mist guy.

 

[cws]

Man Iris looked so good in the current episode, she was getting a bit on my nerve in earlier episodes but i dont think the hate she is getting right now is justified at all. Young Girl still trying to figure things out, not everybody needs to be perfect to fit their role. Some people need time for growth in their role - death isnt the solution for everything lol.

flashpoint is when barry goes back in time and manages to save his mom, so everything changes

Barry goes back to save his mom, resulting in a drastically altered timeline. I.e. Bruce Wayne was killed and Thomas became a Batman who has no qualms about killing

It could take work in the Arrowverse. It's the only way I could see them topping this episode

It was a comic (now an animated movie) about how Flash went back to save him mom from dying but in doing so caused a massive ripple that affected the lives of a lot people including various super heroes. The focal point is on a war between Atlanteans (led by Aquaman) and Amazons (led by Wonder Woman) that has caused major catostrophe in the world.

It's a great storyline, at least watch the animated movie "Flashpoint Paradox". I don't think the TV series will follow that exact storyline because it involves a lot of other heroes and would require like a huge budget to represent that scope but they can take some cues from it.

Go watch this move right now.

it seems they are building up to it. The future newpaper talks about red skies. Flashpoint was the jumping off point for DC to relaunch its brand into The New 52.

Go watch the Flashpoint Paradox like right now. Right now.

Thanks you guys -guess i will be watching the Movie as soon as possible...hope it doesnt spoil the current show too much though. I like not knowing what the characters true intentions are.

 

[Morokh]

Nice episode !

But do they really expect us to believe that all the awesomeness that happened in the episode will stick

Spoiler

with Barry going back in time xD

?

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Nice episode !

But do they really expect us to believe that all the awesomeness that happened in the episode will stick

Spoiler

with Barry going back in time xD

?

I think the idea will be that, sure, he changes things... but there are consequences. Other things, just as bad if not worse, will occur for doing that.

It's kind of like with Wells:

He came back in time to kill Flash as a kid for whatever nebulous reason. Instead, he wound up killing Nora by accident. He then builds the particle accelerator to give Barry his abilities, except there's the side effect of giving potentially dozens, if not hundreds, of people powers at the same time. Not only that, he causes the Flash to emerge earlier, but now he's given him additional motivation to take the Reverse-Flash down: the murder of his mother and the massive betrayal of him and the entire STAR team, along with the fact that as a bad guy, Barry would have tried to stop him regardless cause it seems like he is always destined to become a hero.

So... don't fuck with time.

 

[Neoxon]

I think the idea will be that, sure, he changes things... but there are consequences. Other things, just as bad if not worse, will occur for doing that.

It's kind of like with Wells:

He came back in time to kill Flash as a kid for whatever nebulous reason. Instead, he wound up killing Nora by accident. He then builds the particle accelerator to give Barry his abilities, except there's the side effect of giving potentially dozens, if not hundreds, of people powers at the same time. Not only that, he causes the Flash to emerge earlier, but now he's given him additional motivation to take the Reverse-Flash down: the murder of his mother and the massive betrayal of him and the entire STAR team, along with the fact that as a bad guy, Barry would have tried to stop him regardless cause it seems like he is always destined to become a hero.

So... don't fuck with time.

Wait until Bart Allen comes into the picture.

 

[TheOddOne]

I just noticed that this thread has passed 10.000 replies. Amazing.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler don't read if you didn't watch the season trailer

Spoiler tags are a thing. Use them.

 

[RyougaSaotome]

Fuck, that last sequence with Cisco and Wells was incredible. They were acting their fucking asses off.

 

[MrChom]

Eh, honestly most of the DC Animated movies are complete garbage that are just pandering to people who are already pretty big fans of the brand or characters. Flashpoint Paradox is fortunately not one of those and fairly well done...but I really wouldn't say most of them are.

Having seen all but Superman Unbound and Throne of Atlantis I can honestly say that I only thought two were trash, and that's Gotham Knight, and Assault on Arkham (and that really is its own class of putrid rubbish because at least Gotham Knight had some redeeming bits.)

 

[OdysseusVA]

Having seen all but Superman Unbound and Throne of Atlantis I can honestly say that I only thought two were trash, and that's Gotham Knight, and Assault on Arkham (and that really is its own class of putrid rubbish because at least Gotham Knight had some redeeming bits.)

Surprisingly good.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

So I guess what I'm wondering.

Is there actually a real Dr. Wells that Thawne probably killed and took the place of?

If there was a real Dr. Wells, was the particle accelerator actually Wells' idea or Thawne's idea to give Barry powers?

I think so. I think Eobard killed him and his wife, then relocated to Central City.

 

[More_Badass]

Having seen all but Superman Unbound and Throne of Atlantis I can honestly say that I only thought two were trash, and that's Gotham Knight, and Assault on Arkham (and that really is its own class of putrid rubbish because at least Gotham Knight had some redeeming bits.)

But Assault on Arkham was pretty good and got me hyped for Suicide Squad

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

You seem to be of similar mind on this subject so I'll say this: people here are probably overhyping Flashpoint Paradox. That said, I found the exact films you pointed out (along with Flashpoint) to be the ones I enjoyed/thought were good while the rest were pretty bad. I think Flashpoint isn't as good as Red Hood, WW, or DKR...but between them and the rest of the garbage in quality.

Crisis on Two Earths, Justice League Doom, and the two Green Lantern movies were pretty great, too. New Frontier and All Star Superman didn't live up to the sources but were good.

 

[DieH@rd]

Thanks you guys -guess i will be watching the Movie as soon as possible...hope it doesnt spoil the current show too much though. I like not knowing what the characters true intentions are.

Flash showrunners have proved that they are not to keen on 100% following any comic book storyline. Because of that, both first time watchers and oldschool comic book fans are so invested into the show, nobody knows what will happen next.

Watch the film freely and check out other DC Animated Universe films, there are so many awesome ones [especially Under the Red Hood].