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The Flash S2 |OT2| Jays of Future Past - Tuesdays 8/7c
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The Hermit
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Which one?
Yep, this is the real answer probably.
My guess is that the first Jay that Zoom traveled back to get on his side didn't agree with him, so Zoom locked up that Jay Garrick so he wouldn't cause any trouble. The Jay that did side with Zoom is probably a different one.
TheCowboyPoet
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I would agree with you.
Well in the comic preview it looks like
Iron Mask is white which would rule Wally out.
KonradLaw
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I would like to point out that we still haven't seen Earth's 2 Felicity yet. What if that universe's version was named Jaylyn Garrick at birth? It all fits together. Like a poem.
Yeah but Felicity would have hacked the speedforce and zapped Zoom with a lamp.
KonradLaw
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She only gets those superpowers because she's in love with Oliver. The one on Earth 2's isn't. Don't you get it? THis is the core theme of Arrowverse, that the power of love drama is what makes the world go around. It's stronger than speedforce, stronger than magic, stronger than a need for good plotting. It conquers all.
StopMakingSense
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She fabbed a quantum chip in her spare time thats able to quantify and control the speed force. It is compatible with her spine chip, unlocking amazing speed powers.
Felocity is born.
Nah, her love of Oliver is more like a Tachyon infusion. She's still a strong and powerful woman without it.
There is a reason we don't. She still isn't a character. She exists as a crutch.
StopMakingSense
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Man, what if, on top of Felicity standing up and walking out of Oliver's love life, she speedster'd herself out of there.
Felicity is The Source.
Jesse will do that.
Okay then talk about Cait...uh. talk about Patty instead.
HamPster PamPster
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Flash threads this season peaked with Zoom = Patty discussion. Its been downhill ever since
Septimus Prime
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What if that actually was the plan til the actress took off for something else?
StopMakingSense
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In my mind, Henry 2 is still Zoom.
They fucked up. They wrote out a Flash comic character but kept their original characters like Wells. How fucked up is that?
Just_myles
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At this point, I hope they are not banking the finale on the identity of the man in the iron mask. I doubt it will surprise me at this point with their cavalier attitude towards time travel.
HEY GUYS BIG REVEAL COMING TONIGHT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GUESS WHO THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK IS - EXPECT MEGATON REACTIONS ALL OVER YOUTUBE!
*drum rolls*
IT'S MOTHERFUCKING JAY GARRICK!!!!!!!!!!
ANYONE SURPRISED?!?!?!
Absolutely it's Jay Garrick. I hope everyone is ready for more Jay reveals because I feel like people will be disappointed if they expect anything else.
BLOODED_hands
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I wouldn't be surprised. It would definitely fit in with what was described earlier. To make a big impact. An older Jay Garrick, an older Flash. Will be the speedster mentor and father figure.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
That's really the only reason to be keeping someone around in a mask.
StopMakingSense
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Man in the Mask is Malcolm Merlyn, and when asked how he managed to get there, all he explains is "I'm Ra's Al Ghul"
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's Captain Jack Harkness.
Jorok Goldblade
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Jay Garrick came from Earth 3, where he lost his speed to Zoom. He was then thrown through a breach, and landed on Earth 1 in the mid eighties. He changed his name to Henry Allen and established a new life, until Zoom recaptured him before setting his sights on his son, Barry.
BewareTheBatsie
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I remember when I considered Patty as Zoom for a good moment or two during her first episode. Good times. Would take that reveal honestly over what we got.
I was convinced it was Earth-2 Henry up till episode 11 then I started shifting to Jay. I felt like it would have explained why Henry left. You have Zoom force henry to leave then he takes him and locks him up on earth-2. Then when we have henry pop up it's actually Zoom and we just don't know it.
It also would've been kind of funny if zoom was the flash from the old cbs show. Maybe he's mad because the new show is more successful so he tries to take out the current flash to prove that he's truly the fastest man alive.
BewareTheBatsie
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Yeah Henry's abrupt departure from the show made me think there had to be something fishy about it. But nope, it just seems like the show didn't want to keep making excuses for why the character wasn't around in most episodes if he was stuck in recurring status.
BLOODED_hands
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I had a theory that the Earth-2 we know isn't actually Earth-2 but Earth-3. The Earth that houses villains instead of heroes. That would at least make things more understandable lol and make more comic book sense.
Barry's permanently slow in tonight's new episode! He totally won't get it back.
#2.19 "Back to Normal"
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#2.19 "Back to Normal"
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DarkJediKnight
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What if masked man is Henry, Barry's real dad.
So much of the story in s1 revolved around him and now that he's set free, the guy literally disappears.
So much of the story in s1 revolved around him and now that he's set free, the guy literally disappears.
DarkJediKnight
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What if masked man is Henry, Barry's real dad.
So much of the story in s1 revolved around him and now that he's set free, the guy literally disappears. What if zoom threatened to kill Barry if he didn't leave. I always thought his exit was weird.
So much of the story in s1 revolved around him and now that he's set free, the guy literally disappears. What if zoom threatened to kill Barry if he didn't leave. I always thought his exit was weird.
Wells spends weeks searching Jesse, but they find her the minute they need her. Joe must have been hiding her.
It could be what 'Jay' should have been. But it has to be a slower Flash, so that he can't just do everything better than Barry.
Would be nice.
Can't be worse than Jay being Zoom.
I think it can be.
Also, I don't like the idea of Barry's dad coincidentally being a speedster. Or if it's not a coincidence and he had some part in Barry gaining powers. That's actually worse.
The moment Barry's lab accident stops being an accident (even with the Eobard link), the show will have lost me.
That's some Amazing Spider-Man 1/2 Richard Parker "Untold Story" shit. No thanks.
Well at least Jay wasn't actually Jay at all.
That was indeed part of the problem.
It wouldn't be the first time two speedsters are family though.
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