It furthers the Zoom/Cait ship if your into that.
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The Flash S2 |OT2| Jays of Future Past - Tuesdays 8/7c
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Mannnnnnnn the shipping needs to stop lol or at least calm down.
Macadinho94
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How's Zoom gonna get back to Earth-1? Convince Cisco to open a breach?
Come back CAITLYN! NNNOOOOWWWWW!!!!
They never closed the one he opened before.
Uhm, are you guys openly discussing spoilers here?
Just taking wild guesses.
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Zeouterlimits
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That sounds annoyingly spot on.
At least it implies maybe not a cliffhanger ending.
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For those inquiring, we love Jay Garrick and would never make him a baddie. No reinvention. Keep watchinglove that you're asking q's.
MHWilliams
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No. The "Jesse Quick" references in the show are all pointing to long-time Flash character Jesse Quick.
Like Wally, we're mostly assuming she's get speed powers of some sort.
Yesssssss.
Who is the guy in the back with the black gloves?
Max Mercury, the Zen Master of Speed.
Barry: "Who are you?"
Real Jay: "I'm Jay Garrick."
Barry: "... Okay, fuck this. Can't deal. I'm out."
MHWilliams
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The characters from left to right are Impulse (Wally's daughter), Flash (Wally West), Jesse Quick, Max Mercury, Barry Allen, Jay Garrick, and XS.
For me Reverse Flash was way better and more interesting. Once they made Zoom just another person and not force of nature he lost his charm to me.
The costume design for Zoom is fantastic and Tony Todd kills it with the voice. Everything he does as Zoom has been great. What you think of the man behind the mask decides how much you really like the character though. I don't mind Hunter so I like the whole thing but some people lost some interest in Zoom after the reveal.
kylecoley182
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Man in the iron mask is Daniel West
TTOOLL
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Really late here because I watched last week's episode today together with last night's...Barry giving his Speed Force like that doesn't make any sense, he was faster than Jay, they were hanging out inside the lab like friends, he should have done something. I did not make sense, I repeat myself.
PreFire
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I actually enjoyed the episode. No flash, but it was still fun for me.
Anyone figure out the last tap codes?
Also, I'm probably wrong.. But it looked like John Wesley Shipp's eyes through the eye openings in the mask..
It wouldn't make sense though, since he's an Allen.. Would make more sense if it were Jay Garrick (Teddy Sears) from another earth.. I hope it's not Hunter's dad.. That would be so fucking dumb.
I need to know how they will fix Jay Garrick's name in this show.
Also, particle accelerator is going to be a horrible idea lol.. It's going to make some new meta-humans get powers, definitely going to give Jesse, Wally and possibly Patty their connection to the speed force..
As for Barry, since they probably can't pinpoint where lightning will strike (and the possibility of it "choosing" Barry a second time are low) I wonder if they will use a manufactured source-possibly stronger than lightning (if such a thing exists).. Giving Barry even more powers. Also, Wally was psyched about Flash - loved it.
I just want the Barry we deserve. Confident, brilliant, won't second guess himself, a comic relief.. One who can come up with cool speed moves on his own, and not bad guy speedsters. Dude taught him how to throw lightning lol.. Just for Zoom to catch it and toss it back to him.
Anyone figure out the last tap codes?
Also, I'm probably wrong.. But it looked like John Wesley Shipp's eyes through the eye openings in the mask..
It wouldn't make sense though, since he's an Allen.. Would make more sense if it were Jay Garrick (Teddy Sears) from another earth.. I hope it's not Hunter's dad.. That would be so fucking dumb.
I need to know how they will fix Jay Garrick's name in this show.
Also, particle accelerator is going to be a horrible idea lol.. It's going to make some new meta-humans get powers, definitely going to give Jesse, Wally and possibly Patty their connection to the speed force..
As for Barry, since they probably can't pinpoint where lightning will strike (and the possibility of it "choosing" Barry a second time are low) I wonder if they will use a manufactured source-possibly stronger than lightning (if such a thing exists).. Giving Barry even more powers. Also, Wally was psyched about Flash - loved it.
I just want the Barry we deserve. Confident, brilliant, won't second guess himself, a comic relief.. One who can come up with cool speed moves on his own, and not bad guy speedsters. Dude taught him how to throw lightning lol.. Just for Zoom to catch it and toss it back to him.
What is Max doing there ?
Wasn't he like the only DC speedster WITHOUT the speedforce ?
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Pretty sure Zoom didn't have the speedforce as well, since his powers were more based around time manipulation.
tkscz
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It's XS. She is a member of the Legion of Super Heroes and I think a decedent of Barry.
Jorok Goldblade
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Sorta what I'm thinking.
Masked Man is real Jay Garrick, takes on Jesse Quick as his sidekick on Earth 2.
Wally becomes Barry's sidekick on Earth 1.
Here's hoping Wally gets treated better than Roy did on Arrow.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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This?
This is what I love about this iteration of Zoom.
He's so fucking insane. That laugh is genuine insanity and hubris.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I bet when the real Jay Garrick is freed, we'll get some Western style music and then he and Zoom will battle each other across the two earths while Barry is out of commission.
This way, Barry rescues the real Jay and they can immediately do justice to just how insanely awesome the character is in one episode.
I can imagine him putting on his winged helmet as Zoom stares at him in horror and then... "No more, Hunter."
Cue ass kicking into oblivion.
This way, Barry rescues the real Jay and they can immediately do justice to just how insanely awesome the character is in one episode.
I can imagine him putting on his winged helmet as Zoom stares at him in horror and then... "No more, Hunter."
Cue ass kicking into oblivion.
I'm guessing, together with Wally and Barry in a freak particle accelerator accident. Well, the accident being that they mess up and hit Wally/Jesse as well.
That would have been scary.
Usually, The Flash that is headlining the comics gets the honor of being the fastest. So Barry being slow changes from time to time. The CW show must however be the only time where he has the honor of being the slowest despite leading the show.
Jorok Goldblade
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If Kreisberg ever gets the green light to do a Titans show, I fully expect Wally and Thea to leave their respective shows for it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Well, this is Barry at the start of his career. He'll get faster and faster over the course of the series.
Yep and before he gave up his speed he had become the fastest speedster in the show.
Preview spoilers
it looks like they use a lightning rod of some sort as well as a machine to get the lightning, so similar to flashpoint
Is it confirmed anywhere that is teddy sears under the mask? I don't see how it could be him as jay garrick from another world. Why would this guy jay look the same as hunter
He does clearly need to stop lying about being the fastest man alive in his introduction. Or he needs to start introducing some notations, including 'born in the current century' and 'from the current Earth'.
CMojicaAce
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What if he's narrating from the future :O
It's definitely is his father. Older dude using POW codes.
Cisco vibe-ing and seeing into Zoom's lair through the eyes of the man in the iron mask, because the helmet is Hunter's father's helmet from wartime.
Probably went back in time trying to stop his dad from killing his mom or something and threw his ass in a cube to rot.
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brotkasten
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I'd like that. It would still make sense and without being specific they can't dig themselves into a hole, like the Arrow writers did with their intro.
My name is Oliver Queen. For five years I was stranded on an island with only one goal: survive.
My name is Oliver Queen. After five years on a hellish island, I have come home with only one goal: to save my city.
My name is Oliver Queen, after five years in hell, I have come home with only one goal: to save my city.
Which one, Oliver? Which one is it?!
Can't wait for the intro during the
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