Nope. Only heard the mother's voice too.
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The Flash S2 |OT2| Jays of Future Past - Tuesdays 8/7c
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Nope. Only heard the mother's voice too.
Could have sworn there was a family photo or something but if not then it only supports the theory
I think it was just a photo of Iris & Barry's wedlock.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Here's what we know about Earth-2's Allen family
1) Barry Allen exists there and is a doppelganger of Earth-1 Barry (which we have to assume means he has the same parents as his Earth-1 counterpart)
2) During the phone call, Earth-2 Nora reveals that she and Barry's Father are going to go on vacation in Atlantis. (We can insert some ambiguity here if we want, but it would have to be a scenario where Earth-2 Henry is out of the picture to the point where Nora wouldn't bother to distinguish between him and a Step-Father, but was in the picture enough that Barry would keep the Allen name.)
3) Garrick is Henry's mother's maiden name. We know that there isn't a Jay Garrick on Earth-1, but it is probably safe to assume there was a Jay Garrick on Earth-2. Perhaps an uncle that died in a war on Earth-1 but survived on Earth-2?
1) Barry Allen exists there and is a doppelganger of Earth-1 Barry (which we have to assume means he has the same parents as his Earth-1 counterpart)
2) During the phone call, Earth-2 Nora reveals that she and Barry's Father are going to go on vacation in Atlantis. (We can insert some ambiguity here if we want, but it would have to be a scenario where Earth-2 Henry is out of the picture to the point where Nora wouldn't bother to distinguish between him and a Step-Father, but was in the picture enough that Barry would keep the Allen name.)
3) Garrick is Henry's mother's maiden name. We know that there isn't a Jay Garrick on Earth-1, but it is probably safe to assume there was a Jay Garrick on Earth-2. Perhaps an uncle that died in a war on Earth-1 but survived on Earth-2?
infinit777
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dammit, I think I just read a spoiler for who the man in the iron mask is 
Not in this thread though, In trakt.tv.
Not in this thread though, In trakt.tv.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
dammit, I think I just read a spoiler for who the man in the iron mask is
Not in this thread though, In trakt.tv.
use next-episode
no way for anyone to spoil it for you then
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
dammit, I think I just read a spoiler for who the man in the iron mask is
Not in this thread though, In trakt.tv.
Yeah, I doubt that's genuine.
Here's what it says for anyone mildly interested: "
The Man in the Iron Mask is revealed and out comes Eobard Thorne
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
That could be legit, and it'd be amazing if it was haha
what leads you to believe that?
godofcookery
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So that "LERROOOOY" definitely was a reference to "The Last Dragon"? Awesome.
There's no way that could be fake. Wrap it folks.
tkscz
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I believe that's the man in the mask. Question is, does he even have super speed? We are never shown if he stole Jay's speed to become as fast as he was when zoom was introduced.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Well, firstly, the way it is written does not inspire confidence in its veracity. Secondly, the fact that they call him
Thorne
If the episode had been directed by Michael Schultz, who actually does direct episodes of Arrow, I'd be more inclined to believe in a double-reference. As it stands, it is most likely just a reference to Leroy Jenkins.
Looking up who directed this last episode reminded me that this is the first episode directed by Armen Kevorkian, who usually is the VFX supervisor. I thought he did a pretty great job. I love when these shows give people a chance to direct as they usually don't disappoint.
PHOENIXZERO
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Leroy Jenkins/WoW reference most likely.
That was a great episode, but Teddy Sears Zoom is still a disaster. Which is amazing when Tony Todd Zoom is so fantastic in the same episode. Despite the Caitlyn reference for Tony Todd Zoom.
I'll forgive them the completely unsubtle Garrick reference, even though it stranges nobody remarks it earlier, for instance when checking if there are any Garricks alive on this planet.
Also, how stupid are Harry and Joe? Thank God Wally and Jesse are meant to become speedsters, because otherwise there could have happened something else, something which also became clear in nine months.
I'll forgive them the completely unsubtle Garrick reference, even though it stranges nobody remarks it earlier, for instance when checking if there are any Garricks alive on this planet.
Also, how stupid are Harry and Joe? Thank God Wally and Jesse are meant to become speedsters, because otherwise there could have happened something else, something which also became clear in nine months.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I don't think the Garrick stuff is too unbelievable.
It could be that on Earth-1 Henry's uncle was never even born so the Garrick named ended there. Caitlin was only looking for Jay's doppelganger, so a person born roughly at the same time with the same name. She probably didn't go too deep into genealogy because of the sheer volume she'd have to wade through.
It could be that on Earth-1 Henry's uncle was never even born so the Garrick named ended there. Caitlin was only looking for Jay's doppelganger, so a person born roughly at the same time with the same name. She probably didn't go too deep into genealogy because of the sheer volume she'd have to wade through.
Calm waterfall
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Barry, Wally, and Jessica will combine their power to stop Zoom.
It just feels a bit tacked on, but it means John Wesley Shipp will be the real Jay Garrick so who cares. Just too happy for that.
That would be great, but
they have said the finale is Zoom versus Barry. They aren't even showing Jay until the finale according to cast interviews.
Piku_Ringo
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would of been best if Zoom just ran up in there, did the Nelson Muntz laugh and left.
Just saw the episode, but wtf? I know Barry and Co. acting like monkeys is common, but the decision making was moved to the end of the episode - because Barry is stupid as frag?
I mean the whole drama is a fragile structure of disbelief and the writers failed miserably.
Between Arrow and The Flash the writers just do not give a damn anymore.
I mean the whole drama is a fragile structure of disbelief and the writers failed miserably.
Between Arrow and The Flash the writers just do not give a damn anymore.
WrenchNinja
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Cause then we have to suffer through 35 minutes of Barry being wishy washy
How does that differ from the norm?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Hopefully being one with the speed force makes him a but more decisive.
Even though the ending completely validated his concerns and fucked up Wally/Jesse and himself?
Also that's like every episode
WrenchNinja
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It being the end of the season just makes the song and dance more frustrating for viewers than usual.
Let's be honest here, none of them are really fucked up. People want them to get to the point already.
WrenchNinja
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I expected that we'd be past the point of mulling over whether he should get his powers or not after lucking out on beating super strength old teen man last episode.
TheCowboyPoet
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Yeah, while there was some really enjoyable moments in this episode, it felt like they were stalling till the last 5 minutes, which was a point that we should have been at after the ending of last week's episode. Barry knows what Zoom is capable of, he should have made that decision from the beginning. The audience knew he would, they weren't fooling anyone.
Yes because that guy was equally on levels of SSJ Zoom
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godofcookery
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Ugh, well that sucks for me! But it's kind of weird how it works for both i guess. Thanks for the correction! (the delivery was different than The Last Dragon anyhow...
)WrenchNinja
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Considering that they were getting their asses handed to them by some dumb teenager, yeah that should be a wake up call
JetForceGemini
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Do anyone think Henry is dying to make room for JWS to be earth 2 or 3 Jay garrick and to become a mentor for Barry
That could happen, would make it easy to make the difference with his dad.
His Fringe reference was cool. Cisco is my favorite character on the show. At first, I wasn't sure about him but it didn't take long for him to win me over.
At least last year he was a bit smarter. Speedforce must be drugs.
TheCowboyPoet
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Yeah, his Fringe reference was great because it basically confirmed his liquorice when he went into Earth-2 was also a Fringe reference. Cisco is a young Walter Bishop!
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