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The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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Yeah but this one is way faster to the point that even Barry is like "the hell is that?"
Which brings me to the question of what Alchemy is even trying to do if he has someone like that who could take out the Flash at anytime really.
WrenchNinja
Member
did they really just waste the Shade like he's some weakass villain of the week
Alchemy is Albert, but that's just to throw off of the tracks of the true reveal. Savitar is
Eddie Thawne with comics Zoom/Hunter Zolomon power set. Barry messing with time brought him back: hence, Eobard existing again. But Eddie was trapped outside of time after his body was pulled into the wormhole. That was until Barry made a massive mess of time with Flashpoint. That's why Alchmey knows about metas from Flashpoint. He's being led to them by Eddie who exists outside of normal time.
Alchemy has a split personality in the comics so I'd say something like that is incredibly likely.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Barry wants his approval. That's the common thread.
Wells was his scientific idol
"Jay" was a more experienced Flash
Julian is the one guy at work who doesn't like him
Next season Oliver will be the villain.
... and a speedster.
So the editing was clumsy, it felt like the Cecile and HR arcs were just filling the time until the final scene. But I think it'll come together now that we have gotten to the big villain reveal.
Caitlin needs more than the Star Wars Episode III motivation of "I'm afraid I'll become evil". Where did she get her powers? From the particle accelerator? From Alchemy? Why is she so afraid that she'll turn evil? Is there more to the powers than just freezing stuff or does it have some kind of damaging effect on her personality? This hasn't been sold to us very well, and makes the part about keeping it a secret make no sense.
Caitlin needs more than the Star Wars Episode III motivation of "I'm afraid I'll become evil". Where did she get her powers? From the particle accelerator? From Alchemy? Why is she so afraid that she'll turn evil? Is there more to the powers than just freezing stuff or does it have some kind of damaging effect on her personality? This hasn't been sold to us very well, and makes the part about keeping it a secret make no sense.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Plot twist: Albert is actually Prometheus and Alchemy is
Tommy
... wait. Has he actually been trying to do an American accent this entire time?
Discotheque
Banned
I think that's just implying that he's so fast that even the slightest twitch of his body renders him invisible to the normals.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Julian Albert is British. Tom Felton actually does a decent American accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xle3UpK5bq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8LVsewV6qs
Dominican Power
Member
I just fucking found out that Julian was Malfoy. I'm mind fucked. It never crossed my mind.
Dominican Power
Member
It's the same gripe I have with Supergirl. I'm calling her Kara Job-El. Jobbing happens on all of these CW shows.
Martian Manjobber is the worst for it.
Arrow is worse when Ollie jobs. Not even a joke.
roflwaffles
Member
The Zoom = Jay thing last season was so weak, I hope they don't go with something as convoluted as that.
panthapanda
Member
but seriously, I guess there's a difference between an adult malfoy and preteen malfoy lol
Julian with a split personality that's Alchemy is fine. Don't build it up or drag it on and people won't get pissed.
The mid season reveal works a treat. Merlyn, Deathstroke and RF. It's expected but it works perfectly for pacing. Zoom went on too long, not to mention they writing themselves into corners.
The mid season reveal works a treat. Merlyn, Deathstroke and RF. It's expected but it works perfectly for pacing. Zoom went on too long, not to mention they writing themselves into corners.
Yes Alchemy reveal is ep 9.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I've never seen Supergirl before, so to prepare for the crossover do I need to watch any of the other episodes or is the Invasion! one the only one I need to see for it to all make sense?
You won't even need to watch Supergirl really. She's a standalone addition to the crossover. It's basically a three show crossover, and she just joins the team at the end of her episode.
HR and the Caitlyn/Cisco plot was the best thing about this episode. Overall this season has been mega disappointing.
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What an absolute waste of Shade. I'm just going to pretend the real Shade exists on another Earth, because that was a disgrace to the characters name and legacy.
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What an absolute waste of Shade. I'm just going to pretend the real Shade exists on another Earth, because that was a disgrace to the characters name and legacy.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I thought this episode was dreadful from top to bottom. Every storyline is just a hot mess right now. Shade was used extremely poorly and just tossed aside. Snow's Killer Frost arc is rushed and increasingly ridiculous. And I'm not finding Alchemy the least bit interesting. I actually had to go back and rewatch this one because I fell asleep trying to get through it.
Night Hunter
Banned
Ok, just a few thoughts:
Damn, Iris with that hook. More badass Iris please.
I just got around to the fact that Julian actually is Draco fucking Malfoy. I always thought that was just a weid gag because they look similar, but it's the same actor. I feel stupid now.
And just because some people here talked about Santa. Him being a speedster would explain so much. Think about it.
Damn, Iris with that hook. More badass Iris please.
I just got around to the fact that Julian actually is Draco fucking Malfoy. I always thought that was just a weid gag because they look similar, but it's the same actor. I feel stupid now.
And just because some people here talked about Santa. Him being a speedster would explain so much. Think about it.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Sorry I wasn't clear. I was talking about when he's Alchemy. You can totally hear his brit seeping through.
Tobin Bell is the voice of Alchemy, who is American.
HamPster PamPster
Member
A romance that transcends time and space!
They're just being faithful to the comics on this one.
Savitar's intro was cool but I really hope they do something to differentiate him from all the other villain speedsters we have. Feels like we're about to go through the same song and dance again
I like the extra focus on Caitlin for the Killer Frost arc but... I feel like it hasn't been handled as well it could be so far. Since next week is all about it maybe they'll fix that
I like the extra focus on Caitlin for the Killer Frost arc but... I feel like it hasn't been handled as well it could be so far. Since next week is all about it maybe they'll fix that
My crackpot theories have finally landed some truth!
Vic_Viper
Member
Which episode this season is the Kevin Smith directed episode?
Was surprised by the Savitar reveal last night since I hadnt really been looking at the recent Flash news online. Was actually happy with them not having a Speedster as the main villain this season with Alchemy. Hope they do him justice since there are a ton of Speedsters on the show now, which actually seems like why they choose him as the villain.
Was surprised by the Savitar reveal last night since I hadnt really been looking at the recent Flash news online. Was actually happy with them not having a Speedster as the main villain this season with Alchemy. Hope they do him justice since there are a ton of Speedsters on the show now, which actually seems like why they choose him as the villain.
Next episode, Killer Frost.
Vic_Viper
Member
Seriously. Have this new evil speedster be a random person. Zoom went from "best villain" to "shitty villain" really quickly after the reveal and the damn dumb motivations....
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Meh. Sauron, god of speed is far worse.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Did I see Matt Parkman in there ? He's been in everything lately. Star Wars, Star Trek. Oh, and Heroes.
I thought the episode was good. Stuff actually happened and moved along. Caitlin's secret is out. Wally knows about Flashpoint Kid Flash. And it appears he'll be getting his powers. They all attacked Dr. Alchemy and his followers, and the more powerful "Savitar" shows up. I've already accepted that we'll never get back to the specialness of season1 and some of season 2 when Earth-2 was introduced along with Zoom and Jay Garett.
I never heard of Shade or Savitar, so their portrayals as unimportant freak-of-the-week and super-fast-monster, respectively, didn't bother me.
panthapanda
Member
I think the Caitlyn plot is stupid. "Oh I've been good my whole life but then flashpoint happens and I'm developing superpowers and now I HAVE to be evil because of it."
Uh...no, you don't have to be evil...
I hate TV/Movie logic sometimes lol
Uh...no, you don't have to be evil...
I hate TV/Movie logic sometimes lol
Calm waterfall
Banned
This was the best episode this season so far. I really like the changes that are happening to Caitlin.
That would really be going downhill. From Heroes to random extra in The Flash.