The Flash S3 |OT| It was me, Barry.
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Guggenheim and mericle probably stole all the good writers.
WrenchNinja
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That's a good question
The Cretan
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Another great episode, even Wally was good.
Because it's a CW show and we need a secret goddammit .
Yeah, it would've been kinda cool to see them actually stick to what the real alternate Earth's are in the comics.
Septimus Prime
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Supergirl's been knocking it out of the park this season. It's easily the best of the shows right now, with Arrow being a surprisingly close second. Flash is running behind, but you know, it's due for being awful, since it's season 3. We'll see if any of the Arrowverse shows can escape that curse.
I wouldn't even compare them. Arrow came down from a great season while Flash is still cleaning up the mess of season 2.
Jorok Goldblade
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Next season, give us the Earth-16 (Young Justice) Wells.
I've had no problems with it this season. But I'm easy to please with superhero shows since I'm just grateful we even have so many of them.
It is the type of people deluding themselves that zoom was a good villain last year.
Freddy=Legend
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I'm enjoying it fine. I just think it's the weakest Arrowverse show this season so far. Maybe better than Legends, but that show has such a different scope and feel from the other 3; it's hard to lump it in with them sometimes.
I can't speak for last night's episode, as I haven't seen it yet. However, I haven't liked Flash this season so far due to Barry staying in this altered, but now apparently normal, timeline. Can't stand Julian (Tom Felton), the new somber/depressed Cisco, the hint of Caitlin
being Killer Frost
Welp. You should probably watch last night's episode.
If last night's episode makes that big of a difference on my issues, than that is awesome to hear. Look forward to seeing it.
This ep had some funny moments. And some unintentionally funny moments. And some wtf moments.
All the relationships on this show are so bad/awkward. This was like the ep of weird kissing scenes. Including the criminals.
I think Barry the actor doesn't like Iris or something. I'm not gonna make gifs or whatever but looking at his body language whenever they're really close tells the story. It's just off enough. In general, not just the scenes when Joe was in the room.
Then Wally...well he plain can't act so any relationship is going to be weird.
And WHY bring another Wells? And tell him your secrets? Wat? The other one betrayed you to zoom at one point remember?
villain was actually alright this ep. I enjoyed it.
All the relationships on this show are so bad/awkward. This was like the ep of weird kissing scenes. Including the criminals.
I think Barry the actor doesn't like Iris or something. I'm not gonna make gifs or whatever but looking at his body language whenever they're really close tells the story. It's just off enough. In general, not just the scenes when Joe was in the room.
Then Wally...well he plain can't act so any relationship is going to be weird.
And WHY bring another Wells? And tell him your secrets? Wat? The other one betrayed you to zoom at one point remember?
villain was actually alright this ep. I enjoyed it.
I'd say Zoom had a lot of awesome moments, but his motives were weak. I didn't have a problem with him being Hunter and impersonating Jay Garrick, but some things like the time remnant and shit was weird and the finale was sort of a letdown, at least the big fight since I thought they were gonna race through earths.
Otherwise, this season hasn't been bad and Barry hasn't really been as bad as people claim him to be this season. Ever since returning from Flashpoint it's been better.
On another note, I'm very excited for what they have in store for Caitlin. Will she become evil or not, from previews and beyond
all we have is to wait for episode 7 to get answers and I'm looking forward to meeting her mom and alleged brother (believe)
I thought the villains of the week were okay, I liked their powers and they can do some really interesting stuff with the Top too in conjunction with other metas. Mirror Master was charming, I thought, but he has big shoes to fill if he is going to recur in future episodes after Snart and Heatwave. Overall, I like this season, I feel like it's going down a more mysterious and investigative path this season, with Julian and the CSI.
call_kotaku
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Iris's legs at the beginning of the episode
Razgriz-Specter
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Because Barry has become worse and worse of a main character as the series progressed.
Arrow at its absolute worst(wayyyyyy worse than Flash could ever reach) at least Ollie remained decent.
Honestly Zoom was sort of cool when he was just some monster and got cool moments. Then he stopped being interesting and threatening the more we learned from him. Doesn't helped that due to the breaks the reveal took longer than it need to. He was also saddled with the dumb jay and time remnant stuff and then they rushed the end with him suddenly wanting to destroy the multiverse.I honestly don't miss him especially compared to Reverse Flash.
I thought "how will they keep Wells as a series regular this season"?
And they managed to take the most ridiculous route. Kinda hoping Jessie dies, Wells 2 gets lonely then comes back permanently.
No then we get mopey Wells instead of fun Wells.
Jay as zoom was indeed the moment he went from alpha to beta villain.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Dominican Power
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Barry doesn't a deserve a sexy woman like Iris. There wouldn't be a moment where we're not shoving our tongues down each other's throats.
As someone said before, who wants to wind up in Team Flash's containment boxes.
Cisco hasn't even invented a feeding system!
Clint Beastwood
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probably because the main character of the show is the absolute worst, bringing in stupid relationship nonsense that plagued Arrow for two seasons. (coincidentally the worst two seasons of Arrow)
Iris in the 230 different universes that have existed in this show has thrown herself at Barry in every single one and he still can't just be an actual normal person and be with her. even wally got his shit together, and it all happened in one episode.
"i dont want this cuz you're leaving to earth 2"
"nevermind yea i do I'm a dumbass sorry about earlier. Please don't think im a dumb fuck like barry"
DEAD at the octopus pun
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Caitlin hiding her powers makes no sense. Cisco used his abilities in this episode and he had an evil metahuman doppelganger as well. Not to mention they seem okay with letting metahumans just be if they don't plan on running wild. Magenta is a mentally unstable teenager and she just got to roam free with a new life unsupervised with her abilities. Let's not even go into how it's a retread of Cisco hiding his emerging meta abilities last season.
The whole thing is plotted to waste time. Like Earth 2 Wells obviously having figured it out but deciding to just drop a cryptic hint instead of just saying something.
They're leaning heavy on the CW SECRETS stuff that nobody likes.
The whole thing is plotted to waste time. Like Earth 2 Wells obviously having figured it out but deciding to just drop a cryptic hint instead of just saying something.
They're leaning heavy on the CW SECRETS stuff that nobody likes.
Ehh, if this continues only a few more episodes I won't care. Throwing Snow with her powers into the fray this early into a season might be heaping too much on at once.
Now, if this shit lasts half a season or all season... I'll be angry.
I liked this episode the best of season 4. Everybody was clicking with each other. I loved the Flash & Jesse running scenes on the buildings. I liked Snart and Scudder too.
Complain about plotting, but my beef is why did Barry
I suppose that question goes for every villain though, but its hard to ignore it.
Complain about plotting, but my beef is why did Barry
need mirrors to defeat Mirror Master? Couldn't he have superspeeded up and put on handcuffs without all the tomfoolery?
I suppose that question goes for every villain though, but its hard to ignore it.
MHWilliams
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I'm not hating it, but up until the last episode, it's been the weakest of all the superheroes shows this season.
Arrow and Supergirl are on point, Legends is leaning into the nonsense, and no one watches Gotham.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Zero can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Episode 7 is called "Killer Frost." Now I don't know if that is just a big reveal episode and the start of her arc or maybe the end of SECRETS. I'm actually digging Caitlin more this season than last. And if they somehow move her into an antagonist role, this will be worth it. Just all the weird teasing and hiding seems pointless. Barry could've just come into this timeline where Snow has powers but doesn't like using them. And maybe she's just a little more curt about things. It depends on where they're going with it. They obviously have a place where they want to land with this, so it could end up being a good story for the show.
Whats the point of handcuffing someone who can move freely between fucking mirrors and windows?
The handcuffs are anti-meta handcuffs.
Correct, and next episode will have Caitlin's mother too. She's getting a non boyfriend related arc that lasts a couple of episodes. Let her have it folks.
Hippo_PRIME
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Okay, yeah, I think Barry is affable and charming, but Iaughef at this. I could absolutely see Wally saying something like this.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Start the season on the absolute low point of TV, and people are going to notice.
And nobody even remembers Lucifer.
Ironically that is the best of the bunch right now.
Edit: I probably shoudln't make a comment like that without seeing the current seasons of the other superhero shows. I apologize.
Septimus Prime
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Can't say I agree with this. Last season, maybe, but Gotham's quality has dipped, while Supergirl and Arrow have both improved tremendously.
The Flash started with two depressing episodes that couldn't live up to the source material, then two fun but generally meaningless fillers. Last episode was fine, but it didn't help that Mirror Master and The Top were clearly nothing on Cold's presence.
Supergirl came in swinging with the big guy and a new status quo, renewed energy and a strong direction. Still struggling with villains and a place for some of the supporting characters.
Legends is apparently becoming a comedy, which works for what it is.
Arrow is on fire where every element of the show is strong and working in tandem. It's avoided the filler effect nimbly. God knows how long it will last - strong start weak finish has been a pattern for the last few seasons - but it's easily my most anticipated DC TV show currently.
Supergirl came in swinging with the big guy and a new status quo, renewed energy and a strong direction. Still struggling with villains and a place for some of the supporting characters.
Legends is apparently becoming a comedy, which works for what it is.
Arrow is on fire where every element of the show is strong and working in tandem. It's avoided the filler effect nimbly. God knows how long it will last - strong start weak finish has been a pattern for the last few seasons - but it's easily my most anticipated DC TV show currently.
Jane the Virgin is better than all of them.