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[Lucius86]

Vijay Mallya will sell his some of his part of Force India team to Subroto Roy's Sahara Group.

How much did he have?

 

[DrM]

How much did he have?

Cannot find any info about it, but I think that he has 30+ %

 

[Goldrusher]

It looks like not a single soul has been to the Korean track since last year's GP.
Absolutely nothing has changed.

Still the same podium, weathered:

Dirty, dusty track:

And it still is a marshland track:

What they had in mind:

What they started building:

What they've actually built:

 

[brotkasten]

I expect India to be worse.

 

[jey_16]

Wow....that's a bit of a joke, I thought it would be all ready by now.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

2010

2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL71X7JbnQc


rain forecast for friday and saturday.

 

[Xun]

Are they not going to go ahead with their original plans at all then?

 

[DrM]

Also, there are news that drainage system on track is so poorly made, that cannot move 1/4 of possible water on track.

 

[dubc35]

Wow, that does look bad. I agree though, I think India will be worse.

 

[mblitek]

Looks like the Racecar Engineering mag is popular with you guys. If you need help understanding something feel free to ask me!

 

[SunhiLegend]

Wow, it looks the same as last year. Shit drainage system meant we had to wait forever for the race to restart last year. Hope we don't get delays again this year.

 

[brotkasten]

I'm still laughing at the first picture. I mean, did anyone really believe they could and would build such a building complex around a race track?

It's usually the other way around. I'd expext that from Best Korea, but not from the south. But hey, as long as Bernie gets the money, everything is cool.

 

[S. L.]

Indian sports promoter Sahara India Pariwar has taken a 42.5 per cent shareholding in the Force India team, which will be renamed Sahara Force India.

The $100 million deal was announced at a press conference in New Delhi today. Team principal Vijay Mallya retains 42.5 per cent ownership, with the remaining 15 per cent share remaining in the hands of the Mol family, who became co-owners during the squad's Spyker era.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95295

 

[Ark]

How much did he have?

Mallya sold 42.5% to the Sahara company and still retained 42.5% himself with another 15% to some other guy (Michael something?). Hopefully this means we'll see Force India finishing a lot higher in coming years

It's usually the other way around. I'd expext that from Best Korea, but not from the south. But hey, as long as Bernie gets the money, everything is cool.

I'd be surprised if Korea even stays on the calendar until the end of their contract.

 

[Psychotext]

I'd be surprised if Korea even stay on the calendar until the end of their contract.

Yup. Place is going to be an embarrassment this weekend.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

If Mallya bows out of that team I wouldn't be surprised to see a return of the Midland/Spyker days. It seems so often that these businessmen decide to get in and run a vanity team they take a season or two to realize that F1 is expensive/hard and let the team turn to shit.

It's also ridiculous that Korea is still in such a sorry state. Last year could maybe be forgiven, but that's just embarassing.

 

[ANDY_098]

Soft and Super Soft tyres will be used in Korea.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95287

If it is dry on Sunday then it should be a decent race with lots of tyre changes, Bridgestone struggled with graining last year but got away with it because it was a wet race.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Mallya sold 42.5% to the Sahara company and still retained 42.5% himself with another 15% to some other guy (Michael something?). Hopefully this means we'll see Force India finishing a lot higher in coming years



I'd be surprised if Korea even stays on the calendar until the end of their contract.

Just another country that doesn't seem to give a damn about F1. Singapore have also expressed their desire to cancel their contract and could be following Turkey out of the back door into the great malebolge full of former F1 hosts.

 

[a176]

What they've actually built:

it doesnt help the track is in the middle of fuck nowhere

 

[Leunam]

It's also ridiculous that Korea is still in such a sorry state. Last year could maybe be forgiven, but that's just embarassing.

It looks like the track has gotten worse since last season. Doesn't look like much upkeep was done on the track judging by a couple of photos.

 

[brotkasten]

It looks like the track has gotten worse since last season. Doesn't look like much upkeep was done on the track judging by a couple of photos.

Looks like they really never used it again, after the race last year. And there must be still a lot of maintaining costs. Crazy.

 

[Ark]

Just another country that doesn't seem to give a damn about F1. Singapore have also expressed their desire to cancel their contract and could be following Turkey out of the back door into the great malebolge full of former F1 hosts.

Means more room for European circuits

It looks like the track has gotten worse since last season. Doesn't look like much upkeep was done on the track judging by a couple of photos.

The track was built for F1, and F1 only. No other race series in the world visits the track except for F1, once a year.

 

[Leunam]

Looks like they really never used it again, after the race last year. And there must be still a lot of maintaining costs. Crazy.

The track was built for F1, and F1 only. No other race series in the world visits the track except for F1, once a year.

This is so god damn stupid. All sorts of tracks around the world, old and new, have problems with revenue, and they decide to open a track in Korea which only sees use once a year?

There must be some confusion.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

And yet there's talking of making a track like Spa alternate years.

Can Bernie just die yet?

 

[Ark]

And yet there's talking of making a track like Spa alternate years.

Can Bernie just die yet?

He'll probably just be replaced by someone just as evil.

 

[brotkasten]

And yet there's talking of making a track like Spa alternate years.

Can Bernie just die yet?

That's not Bernies fault. Well, not directly. The owner can't afford it to host F1 every year.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

And yet there's talking of making a track like Spa alternate years.

Can Bernie just die yet?

The thing is, who would replace him? I don't think his two daughters are in line for that role. I'm finding the thought of F1 post Bernie quite confusing. We could get someone even worse and you know what they say; better the devil you know.

 

[AcridMeat]

This is so god damn stupid. All sorts of tracks around the world, old and new, have problems with revenue, and they decide to open a track in Korea which only sees use once a year?

There must be some confusion.

It has been a dumb idea from the start. DAT CASH FLOW - Bernie

 

[Edmond Dantès]

He'll probably just be replaced by someone just as evil.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

That's not Bernies fault. Well, not directly. The owner can't afford it to host F1 every year.

Can't we all chip in a tenner? It won't be an F1 season without Spa!

 

[brotkasten]

The thing is, who would replace him? I don't think his two daughters are in line for that role. I'm finding the thought of F1 post Bernie quite confusing. We could get someone even worse and you know what they say; better the devil you know.

His family got the commercial rights for the next 100 years. No, that's not a joke. Unless I got it wrong.

E: Yeah, I found amar's post.

I don't see a way to negotiate anything at this point, because from this January Bernie finally established the final move of his business career, greatest than all other he ever done, and he done many of crazy deals for his favor - Formula One World Championship Ltd. company took over the all commercial rights for the F1 sport for next 100 years from FIA.

The new rules introduce a separation of commercial and regulatory activities in motor sport, which FIA intends to make effective, inter alia, through the appointment as from 2010 of a "commercial rights holder" for 100 years, for each of the FIA Formula One and FIA World Rally Championships, in exchange of one-off fixed fee, payable at the outset.

Basically, Bernie - or better to say Slavica and her daughters Petra and Tamara with still unborn grandchildren - will be in control of the F1 sport for the next century as long as commercial rights are in question.

 

[Xun]

Because I wasn't really posting in the F1 threads back then, how would you guys of felt with a breakaway championship?

I personally wouldn't of minded it even if it would've been a shame to see the Formula One name vanish.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Because I wasn't really posting in the F1 threads back then, how would you guys of felt with a breakaway championship?

I personally wouldn't of minded it even if it would've been a shame to see the Formula One name vanish.

Would have been nice to get away from Bernie's grip, but it wasn't really viable. Like it or not, but Bernie is the glue that holds everything together. Without him the manufacturers would tear each other to shreds.

 

[DrM]

His family got the commercial rights for the next 100 years. No, that's not a joke. Unless I got it wrong.

What puzzels me the most is this - why drivers stay mile away from Bernie's daughters? Someone should take one for the team

 

[brotkasten]

What puzzels me the most is this - why drivers stay mile away from Bernie's daughters? Someone should take one for the team

Playing with the daughter of your boss and your soon-to-be boss can end pretty bad for your career.

 

[DrM]

Playing with the daughter of your boss and your soon-to-be boss can end pretty bad for your career.

So one of the older drivers should do it, just for the lulz

 

[AcridMeat]

So one of the older drivers should do it, just for the lulz

Schumi-Petra scandal.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

What puzzels me the most is this - why drivers stay mile away from Bernie's daughters? Someone should take one for the team

Herpes. (They may well be upstanding young women, without any modicum of sluttyness ...)

Also, Bernie would have the driver's balls removed in a very unpleasant manner.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

They all beg Bernie to get a piece of Webber for them.

 

[brotkasten]

They all beg Bernie to get a piece of Webber for them.

They all hope he'll break up with Horner. Everyone sees that the relationship between them isn't working. Everyone, but him.

 

[Shaneus]

They all beg Bernie to get a piece of Webber for them.

You know, there are some scary parallels between the current F1 season and the first Mortal Kombat movie. For example, Webber is clearly Raiden. A god. Doesn't win the tournament but provides inspiration and support for he who does, Liu Kang (Vettel). Hamilton is Johnny Cage. Bernie is Shao Kahn.

That's all I've got... for now. Let me flesh this out a bit.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Take that crap over to gaming mate. This is a serious thread.

 

[Lucius86]

Take that crap over to gaming mate. This is a serious thread.

Hush, I think he is on to something there. What do you know anyway?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I know you've been replaced by him as the biggest Webber fan. Sucking up to him won't change that.

 

[Lucius86]

I'm happy to be the number 2 fan - which makes me the number 1 fan really.

 

[Shaneus]

I'm happy to be the number 2 fan - which makes me the number 1 fan really.

Which makes you Vettel? That's cool. I'm happy being the number one fan, which makes you the number two which then makes you the number one and then me the number two. Just like Mark Webber.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Guys I'm scared.

 

[Shaneus]

Just count your lucky stars we're only on a 1 week break. This shit could've gone on for AGES.

 

[Psychotext]

Webber fans.

/rolls eyes

 

[mblitek]

So I uploaded some more magazines including Racecar Engineering. A LOT more to come, I've been a subscriber for 11yrs. Last month has a special on the RB7 & Newey, check it out!