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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|

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Shaneus

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Any chance you could PM me a link, mblitek? I'm interested but can't remember the address to where you're storing your stuff :(
 
If he was a good driver.

That has to be troll bait.

Even ignoring that ridiculous statement, there's nothing wrong with liking somebody because they're fucking awesome.
 

Leunam

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Edmond Dantès said:
The Raikkonen speculation is getting to him.

As silly as it may sound, I think Rubens reacting like this is further indication that there may actually be a serious deal in the works.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
AcridMeat said:
Yeah screw Timo Glock man!
And his Irish cousin Tim O' Glock. ;)


This particular stat doesn't make for nice reading if you're Rubens.

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AcridMeat

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I'm surprised that Britney is already on that list. I didn't watch the sport much at all the last decade though, until 2009.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
This particular stat doesn't make for nice reading if you're Rubens.
No worries though, he'll lose it to Mark.

Who is leading the "Most years in F1 without winning a championship"?
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
If he was a good driver.

That has to be troll bait.

Even ignoring that ridiculous statement, there's nothing wrong with liking somebody because they're fucking awesome.
As great as he is, he's the next Rubens if he doesn't pull a Button next season.

Edmond Dantès said:
And his Irish cousin Tim O' Glock. ;)


This particular stat doesn't make for nice reading if you're Rubens.

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Thanks for supporting me with stats. :lol
 

Ark

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Edmond Dantès said:
This particular stat doesn't make for nice reading if you're Rubens.

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Not 100% accurate because of the changes in points over the years, but Rubens is leading for sure.

Probably wont be more popular than Sir Stirling Moss however.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
McLaren eager to extend Lewis' contract

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/269668/mclaren-eager-to-extend-hamilton-s-contract/

Tony Fernandes not sure Chandhok to race Lotus in India

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-boss-not-sure-chandhok-to-race-lotus-in-india-2/?i=4&v=2&s=1

He's a nice guy and all. It would be something very special for him to race in front of his home crowd at the inaugural GP, but this is F1. It's a results based business and he hasn't done enough to warrant a driver over Trulli.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
And his Irish cousin Tim O' Glock. ;)


This particular stat doesn't make for nice reading if you're Rubens.

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That's a bit unfair considering they changed the system in 2010 and 2003 and 1991 and on and on.

Rough up-to-date list on 2003-2009 system so rubens probably looks even worse due to the 10-6-4-3-2-1 system only he raced on!

Rubinho - 621
Massa - 410
Webber - 346.5
Heidfeld - 231
Nico Rosberg - 150.5

All the rest on the posted list will only get higher under the 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system.

Other notables:
Jacques Laffite - 360
Ronnie Peterson - 290
Moss - 246
Gilles - 158
Amon - 151


Go bored after this!
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
brotkasten said:
But it still looks so dead and abandoned.
No wonder, it is placed in the middle of the swamp and Yeongam county has only 60.000 people.
Not the best spot for the racetrack.
 
brotkasten said:
As great as he is, he's the next Rubens if he doesn't pull a Button next season.
Winning the championship isn't the only factor in being a good driver. You just have to look at his overtake on Alonso at Spa or something to see that Webber is an utter beast. Absolute top tier? Maybe not, but let's not kid ourself, he has serious talent.

I do think he has a WC in him, too. Whether or not it will happen is a different matter.
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
Winning the championship isn't the only factor in being a good driver. You just have to look at his overtake on Alonso at Spa or something to see that Webber is an utter beast. Absolute top tier? Maybe not, but let's not kid ourself, he has serious talent.

I do think he has a WC in him, too. Whether or not it will happen is a different matter.
Rubens was a good driver, too. Getting destroyed by his teammate in the same car makes those nice overtakes look insignificant. He didn't even win one single race this season, whereas Vettel already secured the WDC with the same car. At least he was always in the top 5, but then again, who will remember Mark Webber's 2011 season? Nobody, that's who.
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
What you're arguing is completely different to "if he was a good driver".
If we ignore his amateurish starts, then yes, maybe that was a bit too much. Mark certainly has the balls, but he needs to get his shit together. He's one of the most sympathetic guys in the sport and I don't want him to end up in some mid-tier team like Mercedes or Force India.
 
My soppy outlook is I just want to see him happy. He doesn't seem that at Red Bull at the moment.

Get him in a Mclaren with JB and I bet he'd have a constant smile.
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
My soppy outlook is I just want to see him happy. He doesn't seem that at Red Bull at the moment.

Get him in a Mclaren with JB and I bet he'd have a constant smile.
Now that would be a good idea, really. You'd kill two birds with one stone. Mark could be happy at McL and Lewis could finally stop bitching about not having the same car as Vettel. It would be great to watch.
 

S. L.

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Psychotext said:
Until Button starts kicking his arse of course.
day 1?
Webber easily is the most disappointing driver this season, his teammate had the title pretty much in the bag halfway trough the season and it doesn't look like he'll manage even second at the end of the season.
which leads to:
a. the car actually doesn't have any advantage, Vettel is just insanely good and Webber an average driver.
b. the car has an advantage, Webber just sucks.
 

Chris R

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S. L. said:
day 1?
Webber easily is the most disappointing driver this season, his teammate had the title pretty much in the bag halfway trough the season and it doesn't look like he'll manage even second at the end of the season.
which leads to:
a. the car actually doesn't have any advantage, Vettel is just insanely good and Webber an average driver.
b. the car has an advantage, Webber just sucks.
Webber doesn't suck all the time, he just sucks some times (starts for example) and that puts him in a hole he can't climb out of. Look how well the RB7 does when it is out in front of the pack with clean air.
 

Shaneus

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Foliorum Viridum said:
My soppy outlook is I just want to see him happy. He doesn't seem that at Red Bull at the moment.

Get him in a Mclaren with JB and I bet he'd have a constant smile.
You know what? That's pretty much what it comes down to for me as well. He's an immensely likeable driver and he's in a team where he gets to drive an amazing car yet the team seems more (at least emotionally) invested in Vettel. His driving skills *may* warrant being treated as a number two driver (though obviously, I strongly disagree) but IMO, his work attitude and off-track personality certainly don't.

There's nothing wrong with a team putting majority of their eggs in one basket, but unless Mark is that driver, I don't think he's going to be treated with the respect and support he deserves while at RBR.
 

Goldrusher

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Speaking of McLaren...

This weekend’s 2011 Korean Grand Prix marks the 700th Formula 1 race for McLaren, which celebrated its 174th victory at Suzuka courtesy of Jenson Button.

Established by Bruce McLaren, the New Zealander took the team to its first race win at the 1968 Belgian Grand Prix, with Emerson Fittipaldi clinching the first Drivers’ Championship for the now Woking-based outfit in 1974.

The team has housed a number of World Champion drivers and famed Team Principals Teddy Mayer and Ron Dennis before current head Martin Whitmarsh took the reigns in 2009.

McLaren sits third for Constructors’ Championship wins on eight, behind only Ferrari and Williams and having last triumphed in 1998.

McLaren Formula 1 statistics at a glance:

699 race starts
174 Grand Prix wins
146 pole positions
148 fastest laps
465 podium finishes
318 front row starts
350,056 kilometres raced
48,113 kilometres in the lead
10,153 laps in the lead
4,223.5 Constructors’ points

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/269729/mclaren-prepares-for-700th-grand-prix/

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dubc35

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SCHUEY F1 said:
Is the movie availble on DVD/Blu-ray in the North America yet? I really want to see it.
I don't think so. It finally made its way into theaters a month ago or so. That said, you can find uploaded copies online if you're interested.


Q: (Frederic Ferret - L’Equipe) Sebastian and Fernando: last year the track was nearly ready for the Grand Prix, have you seen any improvements to the track this year and are you happy with them, if there are any?

SV: I think generally there hasn’t been a lot going on since we left, but they obviously made some changes, for instance, at the last corner they moved the wall so it’s a little bit better to see, a bit easier for us. The pit entry becomes a bit more visible - things that were a little bit borderline last year are a bit better this year but other than that… The circuit was ready just in time last year. Obviously they’ve had a year break to finish everything if there were some things still to be finished. As I said, it looked unchanged in many ways. I don’t know how much racing has been going on so for sure we will see a lot of track improvement throughout the weekend.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/10/12642.html


Politically correct way to mock the circuit? In the same article Lewis says he really likes the circuit.
 

Leunam

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brotkasten said:
Nothing beats the overall looks of the late 90's cars.

That's when they were sponsored by West right? I wouldn't mind seeing black livery on a McLaren again, I'm not too big a fan of the chrome look.
 
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