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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|

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Xun

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brotkasten said:
Now that's really great. Not only because of the joke, but also because it led me to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSeKlCirw7w

And lets be honest, who wouldn't want some of this?
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I'm sure Webber would be all over it.
Haha, wow.

Here's another good vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R86oe6k6M

"Schu-make-macher!"

You can literally spend hours finding gems.
 

Ark

Member
brotkasten said:
"The guy"? Well, thanks, pony.

I'm sorry, I couldn't remember who posted it and I didn't bother to check who did :(

I love you really.

pappe said:
I remember it , he was good ,not great.

We can only judge based on his performances or achievements till now and to bunch him up with 2 of the greatest drivers that have lived based on his exploits till now is overrating him quite a bit.

Exploits?
 

Leonsito

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Maria de Villota is an awful driver, I don't give a fuck if she's woman or man, but she's slow, old and only keeps driving because of his father.
 

Xun

Member
Sleeplessnights said:
I love all of his F1 tracks, even Bahrain is passable.

Thing is, I can't help but feel all of the modern circuits are just one man's imaginations. Doesn't feel like a norm for F1.
The modern tracks seem a bit generic at the moment, but maybe they'll get better with age.
 
S. L. said:
oh here is a video of that Maria girl testing the renault
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RsRjHOxoFD4
Yeah, like I said, it would be a nice PR stunt for the sport and whichever team gets her. But at the same time I really want her to do well. Replace Petrov with her and see where it goes.

Xun said:
Yeah, that's why I found it strange.

It would be embarrassing for Mark more than anything.
You have to understand that Red Bull is aiming for a Ferrari this year.

Drivers on the first two positions in the rankings
WDC
CWC

Doesn't get better than that.
 

Xun

Member
Shaneus said:
I guess that it's a misquote and they mean that they won't try and prioritise drivers for the WDC.

I hope it is, anyway... if not, don't make it obvious that Webber's getting a hand. It won't look good for anyone :(
Definitely hope so.

Leonsito said:
My problem with the new tracks are:

  1. They are too wide.
  2. Designed in AutoCAD.
  3. Flat surfaces.
It'll be interesting to see what the Circuit of the Americas is like.

It has quite a bit of elevation so it'll hopefully be pretty interesting.
 
So, fun hypothetical question time: Inspired by the wide field of drivers that NASCAR and its sister series have seen race in its ranks, especially over the past decade, what drivers from series outside of the normal F1 ladder (GP2, Formula 3, karting, etc.) do you think could be competitive in Formula 1? Or is the Formula 1 competition too tough that ONLY those who follow the ladder precisely can stand any chance?

I have no doubts that F1 is, of course, an incredibly difficult and challenging series, but hey, let's have some fun, because frankly, I'd rather see a field full of real racers in F1 than just some backmarker pay drivers anyways *glares at HRT*
 

Ark

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Sleeplessnights said:
I'm sorry, I can only see one winner here. It's obvious who I think it is, even with Fangio.

Senna.

..You can't even begin to compare Senna and Clark. Even if you wanted to, you just simply can't.
 
NihonTiger90 said:
So, fun hypothetical question time: Inspired by the wide field of drivers that NASCAR and its sister series have seen race in its ranks, especially over the past decade, what drivers from series outside of the normal F1 ladder (GP2, Formula 3, karting, etc.) do you think could be competitive in Formula 1? Or is the Formula 1 competition too tough that ONLY those who follow the ladder precisely can stand any chance?

I have no doubts that F1 is, of course, an incredibly difficult and challenging series, but hey, let's have some fun, because frankly, I'd rather see a field full of real racers in F1 than just some backmarker pay drivers anyways *glares at HRT*
It almost impossible to join F1 if you don't have at least some Formula experience. Vitaly Petrov started with the Lada Cup instead of karting, but joined the Formula Renault after that. Even though Paul Di Resta is a former DTM champion, he was in Formula Renault and Formula 3 before that.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
NihonTiger90 said:
So, fun hypothetical question time: Inspired by the wide field of drivers that NASCAR and its sister series have seen race in its ranks, especially over the past decade, what drivers from series outside of the normal F1 ladder (GP2, Formula 3, karting, etc.) do you think could be competitive in Formula 1? Or is the Formula 1 competition too tough that ONLY those who follow the ladder precisely can stand any chance?

I have no doubts that F1 is, of course, an incredibly difficult and challenging series, but hey, let's have some fun, because frankly, I'd rather see a field full of real racers in F1 than just some backmarker pay drivers anyways *glares at HRT*
Sebestien Loeb (7 time WRC Champion) and Tom Kristensen (8 time Le Mans winner) come to mind.
 

ANDY_098

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Ark said:
Loeb tried and failed to get the super licence iirc.

Just bad luck more than lack of talent. All the criteria for the licence require a recent history in single seaters, of which he has none.

5.1 Qualifications

5.1.1 The driver must be the holder of a current FIA International Grade A licence.

5.1.2 The driver must also satisfy at least one of the following requirements:

a) have made at least 5 starts in races counting for the FIA Formula One World Championship for Drivers the previous year, or at least 15 starts within the previous 3 years.

b) have previously held the Super Licence and have been the regular test driver with an F1 World Championship team for the previous year.

c) have been classified, within the previous 2 years, in the first 3 of the final classification of: the F2 Championship, or the International F3 Trophy, or the GP2 Series, or the GP2 Asia Series or the Japanese F/Nippon Championship,

d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years,

e) be the current champion of one of the following:
- Formula 3 Euro Series
- The principal national F3 championships of: Great Britain,
Italy, Japan, Spain
- World Series F/Renault V6

N.B.: the title of Champion is considered valid for 12 months from the last race of the relevant series or championship season.

f) be judged by the FIA to have consistently demonstrated outstanding ability in single-seater formula cars, but with no opportunity to qualify under any of c) to e) above. In this case the F1 team concerned must show that the applicant has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula One car consistently at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days, completed not more than 90 days prior to the application and certified by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.
 

Ark

Member
ANDY_098 said:
Just bad luck more than lack of talent. All the criteria for the licence require a recent history in single seaters, of which he has none.

Oh really? Well that sucks :(
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Hulk has signed for Force India as driver for next year according to Twitter, f1enigma.

Is sutil getting the boot? Di resta is a certain star of the future so no point dumping him.
 

Chris R

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NihonTiger90 said:
So, fun hypothetical question time: Inspired by the wide field of drivers that NASCAR and its sister series have seen race in its ranks, especially over the past decade, what drivers from series outside of the normal F1 ladder (GP2, Formula 3, karting, etc.) do you think could be competitive in Formula 1? Or is the Formula 1 competition too tough that ONLY those who follow the ladder precisely can stand any chance?

I have no doubts that F1 is, of course, an incredibly difficult and challenging series, but hey, let's have some fun, because frankly, I'd rather see a field full of real racers in F1 than just some backmarker pay drivers anyways *glares at HRT*
Kyle Bush would do well in the series. Would take him some time to get up to speed, but I feel that he could probably do it (does very well on the NASCAR road courses and was even going to do some F1 testing a few years back if I remember correctly).
 

ANDY_098

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navanman said:
Hulk has signed for Force India as driver for next year according to Twitter, f1enigma.

Is sutil getting the boot? Di resta is a certain star of the future so no point dumping him.

Good news if true, Hulk deserves a second chance.

Not too fussed about Sutil, he's gone a bit stale at FIF1 though he's still worth a seat somewhere else on the grid. Replace an uninterested Trulli at Lotus perhaps?
 

ashk

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navanman said:
Hulk has signed for Force India as driver for next year according to Twitter, f1enigma.

Is sutil getting the boot? Di resta is a certain star of the future so no point dumping him.

Autosport magazine says so as well. They also add that Sutil is shopping for a seat at Williams, but Williams are trying to find more sponsorship so they can get Raikkonen.
 
ashk said:
Autosport magazine says so as well. They also add that Sutil is shopping for a seat at Williams, but Williams are trying to find more sponsorship so they can get Raikkonen.
Just another Heidfeld, as it seems. Even though he never had a particular good car. Started for Minardi, went to Spyker (does anyone remember them? :lol) and then went to Force India. That said, if he really had talent, a bigger team would've picked him up for sure. For now he remains a mid-tier driver, dolphin lover and a killer.
 

dubc35

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Psychotext said:
So ridiculous that he couldn't get a super licence. They could have easily made any number of exemptions that would have pretty much only worked for edge cases like him.
Yeah, they could easily add:

g) Won world drivers' championship in an FIA sanctioned series for seven or more consecutive years.

(I think it was a couple years ago so it wouldn't be seven but you get the idea).



*e* Wow, I didn't know this had happened. That would have been cool....if the woeful USF1 team didn't fold.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/218220/rally-champion-loeb-contacts-usf1/
Agents of five-time World Rally Champion Sébastien Loeb have been in touch with the new-for-2010 USF1 team, the French press reports on Tuesday. At present, the Charlotte-based outfit remains undecided on the driver line-up for its first season in the sport but recently spoke with representatives of Loeb, who drove the Red Bull F1 car last November.
 
d) have been classified in the first 4 of the final classification of the Indycar IRL series within the previous 2 years

I always forget about that one. So that's:

Dario Franchitti
Will Power
Scott Dixon
Helio Castroneves
Oriol Servia

And every one of those guys is 30 or older. I think Power's the only one of that group who reasonably would stand a shot to get a look for an F1 seat because he's been so dominant on the road courses in the IndyCar series. It's too bad Ricciardo already seems to have the "F1 Aussie driver" spot locked up once Webber retires.

Ark said:
US-F1 was doomed from the beginning.

It was and we Americans knew it, too. :( I don't think you'll ever see an American team in F1 again and I think we're a good 20 years from seeing an American driver in F1 unless Alexander Rossi can somehow break through.
 

Ark

Member
dubc35 said:
Yeah, I agree. I'm almost happy they never made the grid and avoided the certain embarrassment they would find.

They would have made HRT look organised and well thought out.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
NihonTiger90 said:
I always forget about that one. So that's:

Dario Franchitti
Will Power
Scott Dixon
Helio Castroneves
Oriol Servia

And every one of those guys is 30 or older. I think Power's the only one of that group who reasonably would stand a shot to get a look for an F1 seat because he's been so dominant on the road courses in the IndyCar series. It's too bad Ricciardo already seems to have the "F1 Aussie driver" spot locked up once Webber retires.



It was and we Americans knew it, too. :( I don't think you'll ever see an American team in F1 again and I think we're a good 20 years from seeing an American driver in F1 unless Alexander Rossi can somehow break through.
At least the sport is finally returning to the US, at what looks like a very good circuit. Will it ever top Nascar as the top motorsport in the country? Doubtful, but it can carve out a niche. Bernie wants more than that though.
 

dubc35

Member
I hope the circuit delivers. The name is meh but I can get over that. I know Austin is an up and coming, young city but I still question putting a track there. Both coasts will have to travel to get there rather than putting it on the EC or WC (WC highly preferred but I'm biased, lol).
 
Americans don't care about sports that aren't for Americans and dominated by Americans. Every World Cup coverage ramps up until America is eliminated, then people go back to not caring about soccer. With no American teams and no American drivers nobody who isn't already a fan is going to care. F1 has its niche here, but people in America who care about F1 are already so dedicated that they don't care if there's a US GP or not. They're just wasting tremendous amounts of money to build a circuit for a race that I honestly doubt will last a decade, in a part of the country that has no interest in F1 or road racing in general.
 
Just watching the 1996 season review where I saw the "Red Bull" Sauber C15.

Freaky. :D

Apparently they sponsored them from 1995 but the 1996 car has the advertising on the nose which reminded me a lot of the current car.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Exotic engine maps banned
In the last 24 hours it appears that a clarification has gone out from the FIA’s Charlie Whiting to all teams regarding exotic engine maps, to the effect that they aren’t allowed after the end of this 2011 season.

Many engineers I’ve spoken to are rejoicing, because they feel that at last there is clarity on exhausts having an aerodynamic effect by continuing to blow over aerodynamic surfaces while the car is in corners. The feeling is they can all get on with designing a nice F1 car for next year, without worrying about how engine modes are going to factor into the aerodynamics.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/...e-maps-for-2012-give-power-back-to-designers/
 

pappe

Member
navanman said:
Hulk has signed for Force India as driver for next year according to Twitter, f1enigma.

Is sutil getting the boot? Di resta is a certain star of the future so no point dumping him.

Hulk and Di Resta combo?? or Hulk replacing Di Resta coz Di Resta signing with Ferrari??
 

Ark

Member
pappe said:
Hulk and Di Resta combo?? or Hulk replacing Di Resta coz Di Resta signing with Ferrari??

Either one is good.

It's incredibly depressing when you think there's only three races left on the BBC :(
 

Lucius86

Banned
pappe said:
Hulk and Di Resta combo?? or Hulk replacing Di Resta coz Di Resta signing with Ferrari??

Oh wow, did not expect that (but I did enjoy all the hulk smash references when he was racing, liked him too).

I hope it's Sutil buggering off, but something tells me it's Di Resta without a drive.
 

moojito

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Hulk getting the boot after getting pole in brazil was a crime. My opinion of williams went right down after that. Glad to see him back in.
 
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