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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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f0rk said:
navanman said:
Oh my god, could you just imagine?
I'm curious too, which F1 team does F1-GAF consider the most likeable team? Obviously a team includes the drivers, but putting driver fanboyism aside.
I think I'd have to go with McLaren post 2008. Quite simply because they've got two top drivers who they clearly give equality too and they let them race.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Something similar to Spa 2008 would bring about some controversy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzNZSaKOsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzNZSaKOsQ
Foliorum Viridum
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That clip looked awesome.
I can't wait til this season ends so I can watch 08 and 09 seasons in the break before the '12 season. Will be a lot of fun!
I can't wait til this season ends so I can watch 08 and 09 seasons in the break before the '12 season. Will be a lot of fun!
Foliorum Viridum
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I watched from 02-04, got bored, came back last year and boy what a time to hop back in!
I'm watching the FIA official reviews from 00-07 to jog my memory on what happened before, during, and just after I stopped watching, and then I'll watch 08 and 09 in full.
I'm watching the FIA official reviews from 00-07 to jog my memory on what happened before, during, and just after I stopped watching, and then I'll watch 08 and 09 in full.
Foliorum Viridum said:I watched from 02-04, got bored, came back last year and boy what a time to hop back in!
I'm watching the FIA official reviews from 00-07 to jog my memory on what happened before, during, and just after I stopped watching, and then I'll watch 08 and 09 in full.
You weren't intrigued by the headlines of 2007 at least? I'd like to watch the 2009 season again, but I don't think I could deal with the standard quality after seeing F1 in HD. 2009 has to be one of my favourite years in F1 ever, the entire Brawn story is just amazing.
Am I the only person that thinks 2010 was vastly overhyped? I mean sure, the championship was the most exciting season in years, but the actual racing was god awful in comparison to pervious years.
Foliorum Viridum
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I didn't hear anything about F1 during those years I stopped watching. I heard when Michael retired and that was about it.
2010 definitely had dull races compared to this season, but the excitement of the championship was enough to make me love it. I doubt we'll get one that close for a while.
To think I watched the first race of 2010 on the iPlayer just because I was bored one day and got hooked. So glad I did.
2010 definitely had dull races compared to this season, but the excitement of the championship was enough to make me love it. I doubt we'll get one that close for a while.
To think I watched the first race of 2010 on the iPlayer just because I was bored one day and got hooked. So glad I did.
moojito
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Foliorum Viridum said:
We can do it! We just need something to spark some lively conversation. Something like...
Michael Schumacher would still be considered the greatest even if Senna were alive today. Discuss!
edit: either there were like 10 posts between me reading the one I quote and posting, or I only got as far as the second last page before hitting reply. Hopefully the former, in which case 6k will be no problem.
Foliorum Viridum
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Well no, that was a shit race. But then I saw Melbourne was the next race and I always loved that track so I thought I'd give it a go again because it was fun to watch the racing and that's where I properly got hooked.
Diablohead
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So long now without a race to watch on tv, it's painful!
moojito said:
No one can deny his statistics, and no one can deny his skill. Whether or not he's better than Senna, he's certainly one of the greatest. He's certainly set the bar for this century, whereas Vettel appears to be setting the bar for the decade.
Diablohead said:
I can almost smell free practice 1.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Good god man, you're going have an absolute blast watching 08 and 09 for the first time. I'm kind of envious actually, I'd love to experience some of the ups and downs of 2008 again.Foliorum Viridum said:I watched from 02-04, got bored, came back last year and boy what a time to hop back in!
I'm watching the FIA official reviews from 00-07 to jog my memory on what happened before, during, and just after I stopped watching, and then I'll watch 08 and 09 in full.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to it What made me want to watch 09 was Button's win in the last race. Watching the F1 Forum with him posing with McLaren for pictures etc made me feel so happy... I realised I had to watch him win the championship. I loved him back in the day when he was with the shitty teams so it's only right I see him win the gold!
I'd always heard good things about 08 and I'd like to see Lewis win, as well, so I downloaded that whole year when I was at it. Have to distract myself from the lack of current F1 somehow!
What made me want to watch 09 was Button's win in the last race. Watching the F1 Forum with him posing with McLaren for pictures etc made me feel so happy... I realised I had to watch him win the championship. I loved him back in the day when he was with the shitty teams so it's only right I see him win the gold!I'd always heard good things about 08 and I'd like to see Lewis win, as well, so I downloaded that whole year when I was at it. Have to distract myself from the lack of current F1 somehow!
Edmond Dantès
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Because they're woefully behind the times and have yet to embrace the net. They don't even even have an official youtube channel unlike other motorsports and continually ask for videos to be removed. Talk about been fan friendly...Ark said:
Well, they'll THINK they converted Webber, but he'll quickly work his way up the ranks before disbanding the entire "church" by proving that there is a real God. Because nothing alien could ever create a jawline as wondrous as his.DrM said:Church of Scientology will probably be next RBR sponsor and they will convert both drivers into zealots.
Just imagine Vettel talking on postrace conference about it
RomanticHeroX
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I think Coulthard's jaw is proof that there is no god. No loving one, at least.
bobnowhere
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Edmond Dantès said:
Interesting combination of parts. The first two turns look like a mirror image of Turkey and the fast left/right chicane looks like a direct copy of the Michael Schumacher chicane at the Nurburgring.
The banked turn looks quite interesting as well, the way it tightens at the exit will definitely result in some cars taking to the grass by accident.
SunhiLegend
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Yes, only 2 days left for F1 to be back. Plus its the Belgian Grand Prix this weekend, fucking awesome.
schroddycat
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F1 fans, as half of the season has over, what do you think with the current point system? Comment below was taken from another forum:
Current point system :
1st: 25, 2nd: 18, 3rd: 15, 4th: 12, 5th: 10, 6th: 8, 7th: 6, 8th: 4, 9th: 2, 10th: 1
Because Sebastian Vettel has won so many races, he is now so far ahead on points that he could sit at home and watch the next three races on TV, and still lead the championship! Where's the excitement in that? This situation harks back to those dismal days in the earlier 2000s when Formula One racing was merely processional, and many fans no longer bothered to watch the sport.
Other motor and motorcycle racing events use what must be the most exciting -- and fairest -- points scoring system. It's also the simplest. They award points for the first 20 places, with 20 points for first place, decreasing by 1 point for each place, so that 20th place gets 1 point. This simple system has two tremendous benefits: It encourages and boosts the morale of less successful teams, because such teams can compete among themselves; It makes the championship results much closer and therefore more exciting for the fans.
Here's a comparison of the 2011 F1 season results for the first 11 races, to illustrate the differences between the current 25-point system and the simple 20-point system:
Driver ----------- 25 Points -- Position -- 20 Points -- Position
Vettel ---------------- 216 ------- 1 ---------- 194 ------- 1
Webber --------------- 139 ------- 2 ---------- 176 ------- 2
Hamilton -------------- 134 ------- 3 ---------- 157 ------- 3
Alonso ---------------- 130 ------- 4 ---------- 157 ------- 4
Button ---------------- 109 ------- 5 ---------- 137 ------- 5
Massa ------------------ 62 ------- 6 ---------- 118 ------- 6
Rosberg ---------------- 46 ------- 7 ---------- 118 ------- 7
Heidfeld ---------------- 34 ------- 8 ---------- 100 ------- 8
Petrov ----------------- 32 ------- 9 ------------ 99 ------- 9
Schumacher ------------ 32 ------ 10 ----------- 95 ------- 10
Kobayashi -------------- 27 ------ 11 ----------- 94 ------- 12
Sutil ------------------- 18 ------- 12 ----------- 95 ------- 11
Alguersuari -------------- 9 ------- 13 ----------- 73 ------- 15
Perez ------------------- 8 ------- 14 ----------- 57 ------- 17
Buemi ------------------- 8 ------- 15 ----------- 83 ------- 13
Barrichello --------------- 4 ------- 16 ----------- 59 ------- 16
di Resta ----------------- 2 ------- 17 ----------- 74 ------- 14
de la Rosa --------------- 0 ------- 18 ------------ 9 ------- 24
Trulli -------------------- 0 ------- 19 ----------- 30 ------- 19
Liuzzi -------------------- 0 ------- 20 ---------- 16 -------- 23
Maldonado --------------- 0 ------- 21 ----------- 33 ------- 18
d'Ambrosio --------------- 0 ------- 22 ----------- 30 ------- 20
Kovalainen --------------- 0 ------- 23 ----------- 22 ------- 21
Glock -------------------- 0 ------- 24 ----------- 22 ------- 22
Karthikeyan -------------- 0 ------- 25 ------------ 8 -------- 25
Ricciardo ---------------- 0 ------- 26 ------------ 4 -------- 26
Chandhok ---------------- 0 ------- 27 ------------ 1 -------- 27
With the 20-point system, you can see that, if Vettel were to drop out of only one race and Webber were to finish first or second, Webber would overtake Vettel as the championship leader. Hamilton and Alonso would be only two race wins behind Vettel. Although the first 10 positions are no different, as is fair, the remaining driver championship positions are altered radically, and reward less successful drivers commensurately to their performance.
Again, with current point system, Vettel can spend another month for summer vacation without losing the lead!
Current point system :
1st: 25, 2nd: 18, 3rd: 15, 4th: 12, 5th: 10, 6th: 8, 7th: 6, 8th: 4, 9th: 2, 10th: 1
Because Sebastian Vettel has won so many races, he is now so far ahead on points that he could sit at home and watch the next three races on TV, and still lead the championship! Where's the excitement in that? This situation harks back to those dismal days in the earlier 2000s when Formula One racing was merely processional, and many fans no longer bothered to watch the sport.
Other motor and motorcycle racing events use what must be the most exciting -- and fairest -- points scoring system. It's also the simplest. They award points for the first 20 places, with 20 points for first place, decreasing by 1 point for each place, so that 20th place gets 1 point. This simple system has two tremendous benefits: It encourages and boosts the morale of less successful teams, because such teams can compete among themselves; It makes the championship results much closer and therefore more exciting for the fans.
Here's a comparison of the 2011 F1 season results for the first 11 races, to illustrate the differences between the current 25-point system and the simple 20-point system:
Driver ----------- 25 Points -- Position -- 20 Points -- Position
Vettel ---------------- 216 ------- 1 ---------- 194 ------- 1
Webber --------------- 139 ------- 2 ---------- 176 ------- 2
Hamilton -------------- 134 ------- 3 ---------- 157 ------- 3
Alonso ---------------- 130 ------- 4 ---------- 157 ------- 4
Button ---------------- 109 ------- 5 ---------- 137 ------- 5
Massa ------------------ 62 ------- 6 ---------- 118 ------- 6
Rosberg ---------------- 46 ------- 7 ---------- 118 ------- 7
Heidfeld ---------------- 34 ------- 8 ---------- 100 ------- 8
Petrov ----------------- 32 ------- 9 ------------ 99 ------- 9
Schumacher ------------ 32 ------ 10 ----------- 95 ------- 10
Kobayashi -------------- 27 ------ 11 ----------- 94 ------- 12
Sutil ------------------- 18 ------- 12 ----------- 95 ------- 11
Alguersuari -------------- 9 ------- 13 ----------- 73 ------- 15
Perez ------------------- 8 ------- 14 ----------- 57 ------- 17
Buemi ------------------- 8 ------- 15 ----------- 83 ------- 13
Barrichello --------------- 4 ------- 16 ----------- 59 ------- 16
di Resta ----------------- 2 ------- 17 ----------- 74 ------- 14
de la Rosa --------------- 0 ------- 18 ------------ 9 ------- 24
Trulli -------------------- 0 ------- 19 ----------- 30 ------- 19
Liuzzi -------------------- 0 ------- 20 ---------- 16 -------- 23
Maldonado --------------- 0 ------- 21 ----------- 33 ------- 18
d'Ambrosio --------------- 0 ------- 22 ----------- 30 ------- 20
Kovalainen --------------- 0 ------- 23 ----------- 22 ------- 21
Glock -------------------- 0 ------- 24 ----------- 22 ------- 22
Karthikeyan -------------- 0 ------- 25 ------------ 8 -------- 25
Ricciardo ---------------- 0 ------- 26 ------------ 4 -------- 26
Chandhok ---------------- 0 ------- 27 ------------ 1 -------- 27
With the 20-point system, you can see that, if Vettel were to drop out of only one race and Webber were to finish first or second, Webber would overtake Vettel as the championship leader. Hamilton and Alonso would be only two race wins behind Vettel. Although the first 10 positions are no different, as is fair, the remaining driver championship positions are altered radically, and reward less successful drivers commensurately to their performance.
Again, with current point system, Vettel can spend another month for summer vacation without losing the lead!
It's fine to be honest. I'm pretty sure if you converted it over back to the 10-point system, the standings would remain mostly the same with nearly equal gaps.
The system is there to reward people for winning. I think it works just fine. If Vettel get's a DNF and say, Hamilton wins, all of a sudden that's a massive 25 points that Vettel loses to one of his closest contenders.
The system is there to reward people for winning. I think it works just fine. If Vettel get's a DNF and say, Hamilton wins, all of a sudden that's a massive 25 points that Vettel loses to one of his closest contenders.
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schroddycat said:
Gnah... you win 6 of 11 races and then you are just 18 points ahaed against someone who never win a single race?
Vettel:
1st: 6
2nd: 4
3th: 0
4th: 1
Webber:
1st: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 5
4th: 3
5th: 2
yeah... 18 points
Vettel has won 6 races, webber has won 0. A point system that can get him in to the lead off one vettel DNF doesnt seem very fair.
The current system already encourages you to play safe to protect any lead you may have, this system takes that to extremes. Why would anyone ever try to overtake to win the race when they can cruise to 2nd and only get 1 point less?
The current system already encourages you to play safe to protect any lead you may have, this system takes that to extremes. Why would anyone ever try to overtake to win the race when they can cruise to 2nd and only get 1 point less?
Psychotext
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Yup, I'm all for having first place actually mean something.
mclaren777
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Will Heidfeld be driving this weekend? I need to know so I can adjust my fantasy F1 team.
And here's a moderately funny video of Jenson on the team radio...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eWfzuOVR6g
And here's a moderately funny video of Jenson on the team radio...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eWfzuOVR6g
Foliorum Viridum
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BBC says it's Senna: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/14624084.stm
zomgbbqftw
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mclaren777 said:
Apparently it's going to be Senna. The new Brazilian investor in the group are said to be behind it.
Goldrusher
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http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/MG_sportnieuws/MG_automotor/1.1094711
Interview with d'Ambrosio yesterday evening. Introduction is in Flemish, but the actual interview is entirely in English.
Het eats rice, chicken and broccoli every day the week of the race.
Interview with d'Ambrosio yesterday evening. Introduction is in Flemish, but the actual interview is entirely in English.
Het eats rice, chicken and broccoli every day the week of the race.
Foliorum Viridum
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After last year I'll be kind to Senna with my prediction.
23rd.
23rd.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yes! He's such a top bloke I want him to get a fair crack with a decent teamArk said:
Edit: Oops, meant to edit in to last post. Derp.
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