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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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TylerD

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mclaren777 said:
I'm guessing this was translated to English from German but it's still really sweet.


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Bravo.

I know where I will be sitting in Austin. The stands where you will be able to see a huge length of circuit will be fantastic.
 
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AndyD

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Those high speed S curves after turn 1 will be interesting. Down the hill to pick up speed quickly, then flat out through at least 1 if not 2 of them.

And I also think the best seat will be in the back straight stands. So you can see the whole S-section and the beginning of the long straight.
 
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Like the name of the Austin track, and the video Speed showed of the progress was impressive. F1 and MotoGP being there is great. Still want to see NASCAR/IndyCar there at some point (won't happen I know, but I can dream :( )

Anyone else going to be there in 2012? I'm planning on it :)
 
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TylerD

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rhfb said:
Like the name of the Austin track, and the video Speed showed of the progress was impressive. F1 and MotoGP being there is great. Still want to see NASCAR/IndyCar there at some point (won't happen I know, but I can dream :( )

Anyone else going to be there in 2012? I'm planning on it :)
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My roommate and I are buying tickets as soon as they are available but a date has not been announced yet.
 
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Lach

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Finally remembered to modify my team for the manager game.
Currently at 83 (like everybody else who went with default-config for the first two races).

Hope to climb the ladder a bit in China.
 
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mclaren777

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The FIA has confirmed drivers will not be allowed to use the Drag Reduction System along the full length of Shanghai's straight during the race.

Drivers will be allowed to deploy their DRS 902m before the turn 14 hairpin. The stretch between turns 13 and 14 is the longest on the calendar, measuring 1170m.

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The Hamilton-Alonso penalties still seem really unwarranted to me.

The incident which caused Hamilton’s penalty was timed at 17.20 and the incident which caused Alonso’s penalty was timed at 17.22. Given the lap times involved one can say with some certainty that Hamilton’s penalty related to a move on lap 45, while Alonso’s penalty was linked to the collision on lap 46 that led him to pit at the end of the lap.

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In the case of Hamilton there was no mention of any report from Race Director Charlie Whiting, which means that the Stewards were probably acting because of a complaint from Ferrari as Whiting obviously did not think anything had been done wrong. The Stewards looked at the evidence and must have concluded that Ferrari was right enough about a move by Hamilton to warrant a sanction. However, it is clear from the wording that the manoeuvre would have gone without any action if someone outside Race Control had not raised the issue.
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jambo

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So annoyed, I'll be flying back from Sydney this weekend when the F1s are on.

Going to try and avoid all news, Internet and twitter feeds until after I get my hands on a replay!
 
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caramac

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rhfb said:
Like the name of the Austin track, and the video Speed showed of the progress was impressive. F1 and MotoGP being there is great. Still want to see NASCAR/IndyCar there at some point (won't happen I know, but I can dream :( )

Anyone else going to be there in 2012? I'm planning on it :)
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Make sure you guys get along there for MotoGP also, sure to be a great weekend. From what l hear it's all three classes. MotoGP, Moto2, and the new class to replace the current 125cc, Moto3, unlike at Laguna which is only MotoGP.

*edit, MotoGP is from 2013 onwards, didn't see that.
It's a shame the "Other Motorsports" thread doesn't see much activity these days.
 
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John_B

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The DRS won't be near as effective in China as it was in Malaysia. Drivers used double KERS coming down the straight and crossing the starting line.
 
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Chris R

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CaramaC said:
Make sure you guys get along there for MotoGP also, sure to be a great weekend. From what l hear it's all three classes. MotoGP, Moto2, and the new class to replace the current 125cc, Moto3, unlike at Laguna which is only MotoGP.
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That probably won't be happening for me for at least a few years. Anchorage to Dallas is already a 7 hour flight, not to mention rental cars/food/hotel/ect

Maybe one day though, when I get out of this state :p The F1 race is a guarantee though, I just need a date so I can set time aside from work and book flights/ect.
 
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http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/6867391/-Alonso-Raised-Weaving-Issue-

'Alonso raised Hamilton weaving issue'

BBC commentators Martin Brundle and David Coulthard believe Fernando Alonso was the one who complained to race stewards about Lewis Hamilton's weaving at the Malaysian Grand Prix.

"I had not seen any weaving myself, but that is not to say it did not happen," he wrote. "In the commentary box we rely on the international feed and unless the director or a cameraman sees an incident, it is not broadcast.

"The race director, Charlie Whiting, obviously did not spot it at the time, or did not deem it worthy of investigation. So clearly Ferrari and Fernando raised the issue when he went to see the stewards about the collision."

He added: "It seems a fair assumption that Fernando only reported Lewis's weaving since he was already in trouble himself.

"But that does not make his complaint any less valid. And once reported, the stewards have an obligation to uphold the rules."

Brundle echoed Coulthard's point and called for consistency from the stewards.

"We did not see anything in the commentary box that raised alarms but the stewards have access to far more footage and data than we do and I suspect they want to set a precedent in this new style of F1 racing," he wrote in his BBC Sport blog.

"The problem is that there will be four different stewards this weekend in China and there needs to be consistency in any decision-making.

"For example, there will be comparisons between what Hamilton did in Sepang and the tactics Felipe Massa adopted in Australia, as well as Vettel's defensive manouevres going into the first corner.

"We did not hear about Hamilton's potential penalty during the race because the issue was only raised by Alonso and Ferrari afterwards.
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No surprise. The biggest snake on the grid is trying to sabotage his opponents like always.

Brundle also noticed Vettel's moves. Interessting to see if the whole grid will start to launch complaints over the slightest weaving.
 
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kitch9

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John_B said:
No surprise. The biggest snake on the grid is trying to sabotage his opponents like always.

Brundle also noticed Vettel's moves. Interessting to see if the whole grid will start to launch complaints over the slightest weaving.
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I don't get this rule..... Does it mean drivers cannot defend their position at all and they must drive in a straight line whilst the guy with DRS and kers activated just drives straight on by?

Who the fuck wants to watch that?
 
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Dead Man

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kitch9 said:
I don't get this rule..... Does it mean drivers cannot defend their position at all and they must drive in a straight line whilst the guy with DRS and kers activated just drives straight on by?

Who the fuck wants to watch that?
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I think that is what the current trio of stewards believe, yes. Same ones for China, too.
 
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S. L.

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kitch9 said:
I don't get this rule..... Does it mean drivers cannot defend their position at all and they must drive in a straight line whilst the guy with DRS and kers activated just drives straight on by?

Who the fuck wants to watch that?
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half of f1 gaf certainly flipped out about vettels little wiggle at the start
 
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operon

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kitch9 said:
I don't get this rule..... Does it mean drivers cannot defend their position at all and they must drive in a straight line whilst the guy with DRS and kers activated just drives straight on by?

Who the fuck wants to watch that?
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Formula one is getting too wimpish, giving the drivers buttons to pass poeple out instead of letting just get on with it
 
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Wax Free Vanilla

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McLaren to spend £100m on Button and Hamilton

According to The Times, McLaren view the pair as a 'dream team' combination and are set to offer Button a five-year extension to his current deal, which expires at the end of 2012, and remain committed to keeping Hamilton 'for the foreseeable future'.

Whilst the financial outlay required to keep both Hamilton and Button is vast, McLaren calculate that the pair provide good value for their big money - and not just in terms of race wins.

'The pair are also a marketing man's dream team, crucial to McLaren, with more than 30 sponsors paying out on deals running into tens of millions of pounds, who love the handsome, articulate and glamorous drivers', the newspaper reports.
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BRITAIN’S Lewis Hamilton has warned his McLaren bosses that unless he is provided with a more competitive car he will be left with no other option than to see alternative employers.

McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh was earlier this week reported to be mulling over an offer worth a combined total of £100m to keep Hamilton and Jenson Button onboard until 2017.

But with this season’s world title hopes already fading fast as a result of the one hundred per cent start made to the new campaign by Red Bull’s outstanding Sebastian Vettel, who has won both of the opening races ahead of this weekend’s Chinese Grand Prix, Hamilton admits he could be tempted by a fresh challenge, and more pertinently the chance to race a faster, more reliable car.

“I have got only a short period in Formula One and I want to be competitive,” he said. “I want to win championships. If you’re in a good enough place and you’re happy then there’s no need to go anywhere. But loyalty has its limits.”

Hamilton, who has been with the Woking-based McLaren team since signing as a child prodigy, was asked whether he envisaged staying with them for his entire career. “I don’t really envisage anything, to be honest,” he said.

According to Hamilton, Red Bull, who would be favourites to sign him if he did move on, are getting stronger and stronger.

“They’re better this year,” he said. “They’re just getting better. The car is the quickest so now they can focus on other areas. Their pit stop is the fastest. They’re in and out. Boom. It’s like clockwork.”

Button, who succeeded Hamilton as world champion in 2009, was more upbeat about McLaren’s chances of overhauling Red Bull.

He said: “I think we can make more headway than Red Bull, because of not really completely knowing our car and not having the perfect set-up over the past couple of races. Also we have some updates here; I don’t know if Red Bull has.”
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Gareth Bale

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Not sure if anyone here cares, but I went to school with Damon Hill's son. He was in my house at school and in the year below. I used to see him playing F1 2006 on his PSP and joke about Schumacher taking out his dad in Adelaide. He only did go-karting then, but he competes in Formula Renault UK now.
 
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RomanticHeroX

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Bungieware said:
Not sure if anyone here cares, but I went to school with Damon Hill's son. He was in my house at school and in the year below. I used to see him playing F1 2006 on his PSP and joke about Schumacher taking out his dad in Adelaide. He only did go-karting then, but he competes in Formula Renault UK now.
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Great, now an entirely new generation will grow up to believe the lie.
 
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Leunam

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Formula 1 continues in China having just come from an exiting race in Malaysia, which saw plenty of action between drivers. We're here to see if Renault can continue it's great start to the season, and if Vettel can continue to strengthen his lead with another victory.

2010 Race Summary

The race started under conditions classified as "light rain", with several drivers gambling on a wet set up in anticipation of heavier rain. Timo Glock was forced to start from pit lane alongside team mate Lucas di Grassi after the team failed to lower him from the front jack on the grid in time for the warmup lap. Glock was returned to the pits, but never started after an engine failure manifested itself. Hispania's Karun Chandhok also started from the pits after the team changed parts overnight.

The first lap was marked by Ferrari's Fernando Alonso shooting into the lead from third on the grid, beating the front-row starting Red Bulls of Mark Webber and polesitter Sebastian Vettel. However, replays showed that he clearly jumped the start, the first of his career, and earned him a drive-through penalty. Elsewhere, there was an incident at turn six, when Force India's Vitantonio Liuzzi spun under braking and launched himself backwards into the Sauber of Kamui Kobayashi, who joined Timo Glock as the second driver to retire from every race thus far in 2010. Sébastien Buemi was also eliminated in the accident, while Williams' Nico Hülkenberg was forced to take evasive action to avoid being knocked out himself. The accident saw the deployment of the safety car and the first round of pit stops for intermediate tyres as the rain intensified. Mercedes' Nico Rosberg, reigning World Champion Jenson Button and the Renaults of Robert Kubica and Vitaly Petrov opted to stay out, filling the first four positions on the track. Lotus' Heikki Kovalainen also stayed out and ran as high as sixth place, the first time one of this year's new teams had run in a points-scoring position all season.

Although the intermediate tyres initially provided an increase in speed, the rain did not intensify and every driver running on them was forced to pit again, giving Rosberg, Button, Kubica and Petrov a healthy buffer. Meanwhile, championship contenders Sebastian Vettel, Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso and Mark Webber were forced to carve their way through the field. As the forecasted rain approached, the pit lane became a scene of further drama, with Alonso and Massa racing for position at the pit lane entrance, while Hamilton and Vettel were released from their pit bays – next to one another – at the same time, resulting in the two cars driving side-by-side the length of the lane before Hamilton yielded. Both drivers were reprimanded by the stewards, though no further action was taken. On lap 19, a mistake on the back part of the circuit saw Button reel Rosberg in, with the World Champion taking the lead on the back straight.

The advantage of Button, Rosberg and Kubica – Petrov gradually fell off the pace to be within striking distance of the more experienced competitors – was negated when Jaime Alguersuari had an encounter with a backmarker that damaged his front wing. As he pitted for a new nose cone, the wing fell off, scattering debris across the circuit and forcing the safety car to be deployed once again. The top ten when the safety car was introduced were: Button, Rosberg, Kubica, Petrov, Michael Schumacher, Webber, Hamilton, Vettel, Adrian Sutil and the recovering Alonso. Championship leader Felipe Massa was down in 12th. When the safety car withdrew, Button was given control of the field between the safety car's exit an the start/finish line. Button slowed to a near halt at the bottom hairpin, bunching the field up and causing controversy when Mark Webber was forced off the circuit at the final bend. As the lead driver has the right to drive as fast or as slow as he chooses when he gains control of the race, no action was taken. Webber, quite furious, lost 6 places and rejoined 12th.

At the restart, there was immediate mayhem and action. Hamilton eased by Schumacher on the inside at the sixth turn, and soon went after and passed Petrov as well. Vettel made a mistake going into the first turn lost out to Sutil and Alonso. Hamilton was on the charge, passing Kubica for third, and started to close in on second-placed Rosberg. Sutil then passed Schumacher on the back straight, but soon both of them were passed by a charging Alonso and Vettel. Vitaly Petrov had a spin at turn ten that let Alonso and Vettel through. Alonso and Vettel now started to reel in fifth-placed Kubica. Hamilton passed Rosberg with the same manoeuvre with which he embarrassed Schumacher, but Rosberg did not take that lying down, and passed him back on the next turn to reclaim the position. The final round of pitstops took place, and Hamilton was able to jump Rosberg. Similarly, Alonso came ahead of Kubica.

The final phase of the race was run under increasingly heavy rain across the back part of the circuit, as a dry line started to appear along the main straight. As the front runners finally fell into an established running order, Petrov became the fastest driver of the final phase as his preservation of his tyres allowed him to power past Alguersuari, Schumacher and Webber in the final ten laps. Felipe Massa finally got himself into the points by passing Jaime Alguersuari for tenth.

Button won the race, becoming the first repeat winner of the 2010 season, continuing the Chinese Grand Prix's record of producing a different winner each year and claiming the championship lead. Hamilton crossed the line second, giving McLaren their first one-two since the 2007 Italian Grand Prix. It was the first 1-2 by two British drivers since the 1999 Austrian Grand Prix, where Eddie Irvine won ahead of David Coulthard, and the first 1-2 by two English drivers since the 1969 Monaco Grand Prix, where Graham Hill won ahead of Piers Courage. Nico Rosberg salvaged the final podium position for the second race in succession in his Mercedes to take second in the championship, ten points behind Button. Mercedes-engined cars filled the first three placings for the first time since the 1955 British Grand Prix, an event where the first four cars home were Mercedes works entries. Alonso, Kubica and Vettel claimed fourth, fifth and sixth, while Petrov's late moves saw him finish seventh, scoring his and Russia's first World Championship points ever. Webber limped home to eighth on worn tyres, while Massa stole ninth from former team-mate Schumacher. Heikki Kovalainen was the best of the new teams, bringing his Lotus home in fourteenth place ahead of Hülkenberg – the first time in 2010 that a new team had finished ahead of an established one on the track – and the two Hispanias, Bruno Senna beating team-mate Chandhok by two laps.

Circuit Info

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Laps
56​
Circuit length
5.541 km (3.387 mi)​
Race length
305.066 km (189.559 mi)​
Most Wins (Drivers)
N/A​
Most Wins (Constructors)
Ferrari (3)​

Previous Winners

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Videos highlighting the Chinese Grand Prix

Highlights from the 2010 Chinese Grand Prix
Highlights from the 2008 Chinese Grand Prix
[Just a warning, some of these videos may have shit music]

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Drivers Championship
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Constructors Championship
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Foliorum Viridum

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And missing thrilling F1 practice where half of the time cars sit in the pitlane doing nothing? Never!

My body clock is fucked up and if I don't pull an all nighter I'd wake up at 3pm tomorrow, I'd love to be in bed :(

Nice work on that post, by the way, I didn't see it when I submitted my last post :)
 
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