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rogue_pigeon said:
Both seem excessive.
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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|
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Both seem excessive.
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It also means Lewis loses two points and Fernando loses nothing. Buemi was also punished harshly, it seems like the stewards had bees in their bonnets today.
WorriedCitizen
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Alonso penalty is ridiculous. Normal race incident. Haven't seen or rewatched for what Hamilton got penalised. Only read it was for waving on the straight while defending. Since he got reprimanded for that last year already at the same race it sounds like a fair penalty. But i have to see it for final judgement.
Now we're back to this post-race shit again.
It did look like Hamilton eased of the gas before Alonso hit him. Not a break test, but perhaps for wanting to let Alonso pass him. Though I'm sure they looked at the data to make sure.
Vettel definitly made more than one move from the start to defend from Hamilton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtQOGs_VcOQ
He goes right, left, right, left to cut off Hamilton twice.
It did look like Hamilton eased of the gas before Alonso hit him. Not a break test, but perhaps for wanting to let Alonso pass him. Though I'm sure they looked at the data to make sure.
Vettel definitly made more than one move from the start to defend from Hamilton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtQOGs_VcOQ
He goes right, left, right, left to cut off Hamilton twice.
Hamilton has had a few warnings though from what I can remember so maybe they thought it was time for a penalty.....still, a bit harsh on both him and alosno
I guess though, if you were going to get a penalty like this.....it's better to get it when you finish 7th rather when you win a race or get on the podium
I guess though, if you were going to get a penalty like this.....it's better to get it when you finish 7th rather when you win a race or get on the podium
Hamilton Weaving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61_AevsjMs
Left, right, left. I'm sure you could find more of those examples today. But likely it has something to do with the warning he received last season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61_AevsjMs
Left, right, left. I'm sure you could find more of those examples today. But likely it has something to do with the warning he received last season.
nope, with the first move he blocks hamilton, the second move is to retaining the racing line (ie. getting back on the racing line for the first corner) which is legit even if the byproduct is that he blocks hamilton again.John_B said:
the super minor wave in the middle doesn't really count as he barely, if at all, changes his line
anonnumber6
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S. L. said:
and Hamilton and Button are former world champions.
Also key people like Ross Brawn, Christian Horner, Martin Whitmarsh and Adrian Newey are British. There is a big British influence in f1 and there always has been, the most surprising country to have been left out of that post is Italy.
Wax Free Vanilla
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another dull race.
good drive from button though.
good drive from button though.
WorriedCitizen
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Wax Free Vanilla said:
Have we seen the same race? It was pretty exciting and eventfull for a dry race.
He goes right (his right) from the beginning to close of the right side. That is one move already. A few seconds later he corrects his line leaving a bit of room on the right. Hamilton goes for the opening, but Vettel makes another move to block it instantly.S. L. said:
If you compare it to the Hamilton incident it seems pretty clear Vettel was weaving more than Hamilton was.
Either way, let's hope we don't get more stupid post-race penalties. Nobody enjoys them.
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I agree. There were dull stints for sure, but on the whole I thought it was pretty good.WorriedCitizen said:
A good way of telling for me is how much fast forwarding I do when watching a recorded race... and I probably only skipped 10 minutes today.
Having watched it from Hamilton's perspective (BBC F1 forum, 16m in), it's pretty clear he only "moved" once.John_B said:
Edit - That said, the Hamilton decision is still bollocks, unless they found that he lifted or something, which I don't believe is the case.
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Petrov flying was crazy.
Loved seeing Alonso mess up his overtake. Shame it didn't end his race.
Really impressed with Webber and Button, and of course Heidfeld did great too.
Really good race.
Loved seeing Alonso mess up his overtake. Shame it didn't end his race.
Really impressed with Webber and Button, and of course Heidfeld did great too.
Really good race.
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I thought we'd left this post-race interference shit behind.rogue_pigeon said:
Psychotext
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Seems you're correct, here's what he had to say about it:S. L. said:
"I knew I was going to get a penalty. I'm not surprised," explained Hamilton. "I was in with the stewards, so I anticipated it. I always try to assume the worst-case scenario. It's only one spot, and it's not really made me feel any worse than how the weekend has gone anyway."
Asked whether he felt it was fair, Hamilton said: "It's racing. I'm not going to argue or disagree with the penalty."
"From my side I'm not allowed to move more than once. Do I class it as dangerous? No, but that's the rule. Twenty seconds is not such a bad penalty for it. As for Fernando, he hit me, he got a 20-second penalty, but it didn't really do anything to him. It doesn't exactly work out as a penalty, but again, that's racing."
results are up
Liga wise we didn't do that hot. But AtlasF1 didn't do either
Some brazilian forum seems to be our closest rival now and they seem to be pretty serious about this thing, so we have too keep our act together
Also I did my Kobayashi bet wrong, i meant to bet he'd do more than 1 point -_-
Liga wise we didn't do that hot. But AtlasF1 didn't do either
Some brazilian forum seems to be our closest rival now and they seem to be pretty serious about this thing, so we have too keep our act together
Also I did my Kobayashi bet wrong, i meant to bet he'd do more than 1 point -_-
scarybore
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That's one hell of a mistake to make if true, would certainly explain his bad pace in the last third of the race.
S. L. said:results are up
http://www.abload.de/img/captureauyi.png
Liga wise we didn't do that hot. But AtlasF1 didn't do either
Some brazilian forum seems to be our closest rival now and they seem to be pretty serious about this thing, so we have too keep our act together
Also I did my Kobayashi bet wrong, i meant to bet he'd do more than 1 point -_-
I did better than I expected, up 5 places into joint 7th and just under 20 million to spend.
I messed the bets right up, and Acrid is now stretching his lead.S. L. said:results are up
Liga wise we didn't do that hot. But AtlasF1 didn't do either
Some brazilian forum seems to be our closest rival now and they seem to be pretty serious about this thing, so we have too keep our act together
Also I did my Kobayashi bet wrong, i meant to bet he'd do more than 1 point -_-
Hopefully my tactics for China will work...
Hey, not everyone can have Adrian Newey.avaya said:
Remember a year or so ago when you said that Ferrari and McLaren would easily catch RBR? About that...
Watched the delayed airing on Speed, fun race. Was extremely excited when the Renaults were up there. I wish there was a better way to judge the tire strategies on the broadcasts though. Seemed like all race my friends and I were asking "How is Heidfeld in 7th, how is Button in 2nd" etc.
Poor to see Hamilton dinged but his race was so shit overall. Curse Buemi for shitting up Perez, ruined my Sauber. Another race goes by that I wish Kubica was well, I swear he could have been fighting Vettel/McLaren these past two races. As happy as I was to see Heidfeld get 3rd, he was boring to listen to.
Poor to see Hamilton dinged but his race was so shit overall. Curse Buemi for shitting up Perez, ruined my Sauber. Another race goes by that I wish Kubica was well, I swear he could have been fighting Vettel/McLaren these past two races. As happy as I was to see Heidfeld get 3rd, he was boring to listen to.
Makes you wonder if he could've gone much better on 3, but even though his final placing itself was disappointing, I was impressed with how he held it together. To start at effectively 10th place and work his way to 4th with an extra stop (and no KERS) was a fantastic effort.
S. L. said:results are up
Liga wise we didn't do that hot. But AtlasF1 didn't do either
Some brazilian forum seems to be our closest rival now and they seem to be pretty serious about this thing, so we have too keep our act together
Also I did my Kobayashi bet wrong, i meant to bet he'd do more than 1 point -_-
Yuck. Dropped a few on poor driver choice. On well, at least I have a good chunk to spend, I got 5-6 bets right.
And I don't see Hamilton's move as a problem if that is the reason for the penalty.
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Wow, I somehow stumbled my way into second position in the subleague.
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