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[Sleeplessnights]

I only recently realised that the white gap in the logo is actually a number 1

It's not that easy to notice and the red flag could be considering the one if you didn't know.

 

[Dilly]

How about a trade off, less aero but the return of ground effect like in the 90's?

 

[AndyD]

It's being doubled to 120kW for 2014.

Does that mean it can be used longer, or stronger for the same amount of time. Those two are very different in what impact they can have.

 

[Adamm]

How about a trade off, less aero but the return of ground effect like in the 90's?

Wasnt there talk a while back of ground effect returning with the new engines?

 

[Scuderia]

It's not that easy to notice and the red flag could be considering the one if you didn't know.

Yeah i always assumed that was the one...

fu

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Yeah i always assumed that was the one...

fu

Don't get too annoyed, we have some great know it all people here

Spoiler

/Sarcasm

but most people probably didn't know.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

How about a trade off, less aero but the return of ground effect like in the 90's?

Venturi Tunnels (a narrow tunnel under the side pod, shaped like an inverted wing. As air enters and is forced through the narrow center, its speed increases, creating a low pressure area between the bottom of the car and the track. This creates a suction effect, which holds the car to the track) a la Indy car, rather than full ground effect cars would be ideal.

 

[ANDY_098]

Does that mean it can be used longer, or stronger for the same amount of time. Those two are very different in what impact they can have.

It will have twice the power (120kW), and apparently ten times the storage capacity (4MJ).

Wasnt there talk a while back of ground effect returning with the new engines?

There was talk about it, but in the end it was decided that the 2014 aero regs would be based on the existing ones.

 

[S. L.]

Does that mean it can be used longer, or stronger for the same amount of time. Those two are very different in what impact they can have.

both, the power output is doubled and it can be deployed up to 33 seconds per lap (4MJ), but you can only harvest energy for 16 seconds per (2MJ) lap or so I remember it.

 

[Xun]

Do you guys expect the 2014 cars to look that different?

I'm assuming they'll just be smaller.

 

[acm2000]

look, no, sound, yes, especially pit stops, KERS powered pits is gonna be odd, i hope at least the engines dont have to be shut off, otherwise the gentle buzzzzzzz of a car gliding down the pit lane is gonna be very weird

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Do you guys expect the 2014 cars to look that different?

I'm assuming they'll just be smaller.

Slightly smaller, with better proportioned front wings and non-platypus noses. That's it really.

If the ground effects concept had been implemented into the regulations, then there would have been a big shift in the aesthetics of the cars. The biggest shift since the nineties.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Here's a very rough idea of what the noses will look like in 2014.

 

[Adamm]

Why will the noses be lower in 2014? Will the teams still not try to keep them as high as possible?

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Why will the noses be lower in 2014? Will the teams still not try to keep them as high as possible?

In the regulations.

 

[pants]

Let's put it to a vote, which year(s) regs and racing did you enjoy most? For me :

1987 - 1997 were just about amazing.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Let's put it to a vote, which year(s) regs and racing did you enjoy most? For me :

1987 - 1997 were just about amazing.

+1

 

[Adamm]

In the regulations.

Ah yes found it. Bulkhead must be no higher than 525mm (compared to 625mm in 2012) and the nose tip no more than 250mm(compared to 550mm in 2012).

I like that look alot better.

 

[Sleeplessnights]

The biggest change in my eyes is the increase in KERS power (End of DRS?) and Self-starting motors, less DNFs.

 

[fu3lfr3nzy]

The biggest change in my eyes is the increase in KERS power (End of DRS?) and Self-starting motors, less DNFs.

Forgetting the biggest change above all those? V8 to Turbo V6 engines

 

[Psychotext]

In case anyone missed it:

How to Go Faster and Influence People: The Gordon Murray F1 Story

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod..._Influence_People_The_Gordon_Murray_F1_Story/

Just saw the bit about "the box". Christ that was some sneaky thinking.

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Forgetting the biggest change above all those? V8 to Turbo V6 engines

Defiantly, but I meant other than the engine change.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

Let's put it to a vote, which year(s) regs and racing did you enjoy most? For me :

1987 - 1997 were just about amazing.

I can't argue that the championships were incredibly exciting, but in terms of sporting regs and the general design of the cars I really liked 2000-04. Also, I've said this before but I think the cars in the mid 60s, just before the introduction of wings, are the most gorgeous in the history of the sport.

 

[S. L.]

look, no, sound, yes, especially pit stops, KERS powered pits is gonna be odd, i hope at least the engines dont have to be shut off, otherwise the gentle buzzzzzzz of a car gliding down the pit lane is gonna be very weird

The technical rules for 2014 published by the FIA state cars must run “in electric mode” with “no ignition and no fuel supply to the engine at all times when being driven in the pit lane.”

will be interesting what will be done when the KERS unit fails...

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I can't argue that the championships were incredibly exciting, but in terms of sporting regs and the general design of the cars I really liked 2000-04. Also, I've said this before but I think the cars in the mid 60s, just before the introduction of wings, are the most gorgeous in the history of the sport.

Oh yes.

Eagle MK1

Ferrari 156

Ferrari 312

Lotus 49

 

[Dilly]

If it sounds like this I'm down!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk

 

[brotkasten]

If it sounds like this I'm down!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFShHZv4wk

Absolutely. I love the sound of electric engines. Cheap sci-fi movies of the 80s and 90s influenced me too much to hate it. I love it just as much as the brutal and raw sound of V8s.

 

[dubc35]

I only recently realised that the white gap in the logo is actually a number 1

It's like the old Big Ten conference logo (collegiate conference mostly in the Midwest part of the US). They increased to 11 teams but kept the name, now at 12 and still have the name. Notice the 11 in the logo.

Back OT, the Ferrari 312 is drool inducing.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Absolutely. I love the sound of electric engines. Cheap sci-fi movies of the 80s and 90s influenced me too much to hate it. I love it just as much as the brutal and raw sound of V8s.

You'll enjoy this then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9rA1eZYK3Q

May well be the future of F1.

 

[brotkasten]

You'll enjoy this then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9rA1eZYK3Q

May well be the future of F1.

I really enjoyed it, thank you. I can see how motorsport fans would hate it, but for me it just screams future.

It must be scary to drive in an open cockpit like the Radical at such high speed around the nordschleife.

 

[Megasoum]

I only recently realised that the white gap in the logo is actually a number 1

There's an arrow between the E and the X FYI...

 

[Deadman]

That gordon murray documentary was great. Shame hes not in f1 anymore.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Bottas tops timesheets

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101149

 

[Sleeplessnights]

I was watcing the 2011 season review when

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Prost speaks out on Senna film.

When the Senna film hit cinemas last year Alain Prost was widely reported not to have watched it.

This was despite Prost being interviewed for the film about his arch-rival, in which he featured heavily.

It now seems Prost has seen the film and, speaking to ITV during their coverage of the Goodwood Festival of Speed, he explained his complaints about the finished picture.

Asked if he was happy with his depiction in the film, Prost said: “Absolutely not. No I don’t agree at all.

“I’m really, I would say, upset, in a way. I tell you why in 30 seconds. Because I spent a lot of time shooting for this. I spent many, many hours trying to explain things.

“We had one Ayrton Senna before Formula One, we had the Senna when we were fighting in Formula One and we had the Ayrton Senna when I retired

“And then comes back the human side of the story with two personalities and people would understand much more what happened when we were fighting, why he was fighting like this, and would have understood much more the last three or four months where he was calling me almost once or twice per week asking me questions, asking me to go back to the GPDA, asking questions about Williams, about safety, about personal life – very big secrets that I will never tell anoybody.

“It would have been good to have that, it was all in the rush that I have done. And at the end they wanted to do a commercial thing going to the good and the bad. I don’t care too much about being the bad boy.

“But what I care is look at that. We are here in Goodwood, we have a lot of fans, it’s history of motor racing. I would have loved to have this end of the story.

“At the end of the day all of what you can see is the human side. Otherwise you have no history, you have no tradition and that is really a big shame.”

Source

 

[Xun]

Prost speaks out on Senna film.

Source

Beat me to it!

Also André Simon died the other day, if it wasn't mentioned already.

 

[skybaby]

Ha, really?

I noticed that shit when I was a young kid.

Damn younglin...
HEY CAN YOU SEE A CAR HERE????

 

[Xun]

look, no, sound, yes, especially pit stops, KERS powered pits is gonna be odd, i hope at least the engines dont have to be shut off, otherwise the gentle buzzzzzzz of a car gliding down the pit lane is gonna be very weird

Yeah I knew they'd sound different, but I do think they'll be (albeit slightly) smaller as well.

Slightly smaller, with better proportioned front wings and non-platypus noses. That's it really.

If the ground effects concept had been implemented into the regulations, then there would have been a big shift in the aesthetics of the cars. The biggest shift since the nineties.

Platypus noses aren't likely to pop up next season, right? Or so I read a while back.

Here's a very rough idea of what the noses will look like in 2014.

Looks good in my opinion!

Damn younglin...
HEY CAN YOU SEE A CAR HERE????

I don't know how anyone could not see it.

How long did that logo run for? I remember seeing it as a kid.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Yeah I knew they'd sound different, but I do think they'll be (albeit slightly) smaller as well.

Platypus noses aren't likely to pop up next season, right? Or so I read a while back.

Looks good in my opinion!

I don't know how anyone could not see it.

How long did that logo run for? I remember seeing it as a kid.

Gone for next season.

 

[Xun]

Gone for next season.

As I thought.

Although I honestly haven't been as bothered by them as I thought I'd have been.

 

[brotkasten]

Gone for next season.

When are we getting the wide rear wings back?

Spoiler

lol

 

[i-Lo]

Gone for next season.

And the turbos are coming back right? Any idea of the power to weight ratio may be like?

 

[Xun]

And the turbos are coming back right? Any idea of the power to weight ratio may be like?

Not the next season, no.

 

[dubc35]

In case anyone missed it:

How to Go Faster and Influence People: The Gordon Murray F1 Story


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod..._Influence_People_The_Gordon_Murray_F1_Story/

I'm still very new to the sport; only heavily followed in the last three years or so. Amazing documentary! One of the best I have seen so far. Thanks for posting it. I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.

 

[kharma45]

It's being doubled to 120kW for 2014.

Which hopefully signals the end of DRS, KERS is a much fairer system that can still greatly aid overtaking.

 

[smiggyRT]

When are we getting the wide rear wings back?

Spoiler

lol

I miss these so much, they looked so damn good.

 

[Xun]

Which hopefully signals the end of DRS, KERS is a much fairer system that can still greatly aid overtaking.

I think DRS should remain, but as mentioned only for a certain amount of time per lap.

When are we getting the wide rear wings back?

Spoiler

lol

The rear wings will be getting smaller, sadly.

 

[brotkasten]

The rear wings will be getting smaller, sadly.

What?!

 

[Ghost]

Codemasters Family Friendly F1 game announced: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482332

 

[Orgun]

Codemasters Family Friendly F1 game announced: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482332

I like the art style