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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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ClassyPenguin
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He was chasing down Hamilton and Raikkonen who were on 20 lap old mediums, Vettel chasing down with fresh softs which are over a second faster than new mediums. They lasted 4 laps and dropped off in the last lap. Seems about right what he did. Nothing unexpected really.
How did Kimi stay ahead of Hamilton, is the Mercedes that bad in race speed? I thought only the nose was damaged, the from wing bits are missing too.
OriginalThinking
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He was chasing down Hamilton and Raikkonen who were on 20 lap old mediums, Vettel chasing down with fresh softs which are over a second faster than new mediums. They lasted 4 laps and dropped off in the last lap. Seems about right what he did. Nothing unexpected really.
How did Kimi stay ahead of Hamilton, is the Mercedes that bad in race speed? I thought only the nose was damaged, the from wing bits are missing too.
I'm pretty sure the Lotus is better at managing tyre wear than the Mercedes. With better tyres, Merc might have been in with a shout of winning.
Mornin´ guys!
While I´m still wearing my tinfoil hat, lets discuss for a moment how conveniently RBR, Merc and (to a lesser degree) FER sorted their #1 - #2 driver problems. Very convenient, right?
I think this weekend pretty much confirms WEB is a goner after the season. There are now so many sources connecting him to Porsche and next years Le Mans car, that it can´t be ignored anymore. And with VET going to FER latest in 2015, I can totally see RAI landing there at RBR.
Don´t know if its been discussed yet, but all the drivers using DRS under yellow got a warning, a second warning will automatically mean a time penalty.
Lauda confirmed, that after Bahrain Pirelli will bring new tyre mixtures, which will be harder. They can´t for Bahrain, as the tyres have already been set by FIA up to this race.
Oh, and the biggest LOL of the race goes to BUT. He drove slow, as he thought he´d otherwise ruin his tyres. Then the team asked him to despite his feelings push harder. He then drove 2 secs a lap quicker - and surprise surprise, the tyres didn´t degrade more. MCL is left wondering why, they still don´t understand those tyres the slightest.
While I´m still wearing my tinfoil hat, lets discuss for a moment how conveniently RBR, Merc and (to a lesser degree) FER sorted their #1 - #2 driver problems. Very convenient, right?
I think this weekend pretty much confirms WEB is a goner after the season. There are now so many sources connecting him to Porsche and next years Le Mans car, that it can´t be ignored anymore. And with VET going to FER latest in 2015, I can totally see RAI landing there at RBR.
Don´t know if its been discussed yet, but all the drivers using DRS under yellow got a warning, a second warning will automatically mean a time penalty.
Lauda confirmed, that after Bahrain Pirelli will bring new tyre mixtures, which will be harder. They can´t for Bahrain, as the tyres have already been set by FIA up to this race.
Oh, and the biggest LOL of the race goes to BUT. He drove slow, as he thought he´d otherwise ruin his tyres. Then the team asked him to despite his feelings push harder. He then drove 2 secs a lap quicker - and surprise surprise, the tyres didn´t degrade more. MCL is left wondering why, they still don´t understand those tyres the slightest.
Yes that's true. The problem was, that the weather forecast said it would be way colder on race day than it actually was, and the Mercs setup the cars accordingly. Thus they had more degradation.
Good to hear Bernie say that Pirelli will be bringing more tires for use in practice from Spain onwards
Also, why didn't Raikonnen change his front wing? Surely the benefits of a new front wing would have outweighed the extra time in the pit stop. Especially as it was pretty early on
Also, why didn't Raikonnen change his front wing? Surely the benefits of a new front wing would have outweighed the extra time in the pit stop. Especially as it was pretty early on
RAI said the team wanted to change, but he felt good enough with it, and didn´t want to lose the time.
Actually it was other way around. RAI wanted to change the wing but the team decided to keep it since it would take too much time to change.
"Kimi Raikkonen said he wanted to change the damaged front wing he carried until the end of the Chinese Grand Prix.
Raikkonen damaged his car’s nose and lost several front-right wing elements in a collision with Sergio Perez early in the race.
Afterwards Raikkonen said he “didn’t know” why the wing wasn’t replaced. He told the team during the race he wanted a new one."
Yeh, the feet make her look like a midget
Myoclonic Jerk
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Kimi said it made the car understeer a lot so the front tyres were getting destroyed more than they suposed to
It's the other way around. And I think the team took traffic into consideration. It worked well, they might have had the chance to challenge for the win but the risk is bigger than the reward here
Porsche denies Mark Webber deal
http://www.emirates247.com/sports/other/porsche-denies-mark-webber-deal-2013-04-15-1.502660
Sounds like it was all just bollocks, starting with rumours that steam-rolled thanks to Twitter and were picked up by mainstream media with little to no research.
http://www.emirates247.com/sports/other/porsche-denies-mark-webber-deal-2013-04-15-1.502660
Sounds like it was all just bollocks, starting with rumours that steam-rolled thanks to Twitter and were picked up by mainstream media with little to no research.
bobnowhere
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Seems like very careful pr management, notice how he says they are testing later on this year and Webber, while still racing for RB, will not be a part of that. No mention of 2014 onwards.
While I'm not convinced anyone would sign a 5 year sports car deal, he doesn't really deny anything. I imagine some talks have been held maybe even a letter of intent signed, but I doubt anything more than that.
Yeah, you´re right, sorry for the mixup.
For the Porsche thing: its not like this weekend was the first we ever heard of it. And where there is smoke there is usually some fire, at least when F1 is concerned.
So what's the deal with McLaren?
Now that they can develop two of the same car given that Button and Perez have similar styles I would have thought they would be doing far better. It's almost like they started from scratch and are playing catch-up which coupled with tires they don't like puts them in a crappy place.
Now that they can develop two of the same car given that Button and Perez have similar styles I would have thought they would be doing far better. It's almost like they started from scratch and are playing catch-up which coupled with tires they don't like puts them in a crappy place.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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They did.
So seems as if Pirelli have quietly changed the tire compounds for next weekend from H/S, which was the combination originally settled upon, to H/M. http://www.pirelli.com/corporate/en/press/2013/04/15/bahrain-grand-prix-preview-sakhir-19-21-april-2013/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PirelliPress+%28Pirelli%3A+Press+Release%29
I thought the new compound was going to be for after Bahrain. This is better.
Shame. I would have thought they could use Jensons car from last year but I guess there were too many things in the setup that were meant to account for Hamiltons driving that it wasn't wise to do so.
Shame. I would have thought they could use Jensons car from last year but I guess there were too many things in the setup that were meant to account for Hamiltons driving that it wasn't wise to do so.
They haven't modified the actual compounds for this race, just switched them
Evolution_1ne
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Psychotext
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Bionic Button motherfucker, YEAH!
:lol never seen that.
Evolution_1ne
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there's a gif of the "El Lobo" bit but I can't find it
I laughed so hard when I saw that shit
I generally don't mind Sam Posey's stuff, but they shouldn't have added any graphics, :lol
That is amazing! LOL
BackwardsSuggestions
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Christ I was trying to forget this awfulness.
Evolution_1ne
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awfulness? That right there was the pinnacle of American Motorsport coverage my good man LMAO!!
edit: Quick and dirty
And they played it twice in the season. At the season opener and again at Canada.
ClassyPenguin
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oh god that intro
Yeah. Tire strategy is one thing, but when tires last only 7 laps before the cliff is another. It's such a wildcard that I just think cars aren't being set properly.
Yeah. Tire strategy is one thing, but when tires last only 7 laps before the cliff is another. It's such a wildcard that I just think cars aren't being set properly.
Wax Free Vanilla
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lol
Psychotext
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Pitstop breaks for the cars. Half time entertainment.
Those would be perfect dlc characters for Injustice. The Ice Man is the perfect answer to Sub Zero.
ZeroCypher
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It's moments like this that make me miss animated avatars
STICK IT BACK ON THE BBC YOU STUPID, MONEYGRABBING GOBSHITE TROLL
Not you, WFV, I'm sure you're lovely.
Article on the viewing number woes and the free set top boxes: http://www.pitpass.com/48862-Ecclestone-reveals-free-Sky-F1-plan
Clowns.
Clowns.
No. Fucking. Shit. Obviously when going to pay TV there will be less viewers to see the sponsors on the cars. They only just thought of this now?
Fucking idiots.
So, how many of those 28.6m are from the BBC..
A little clarification on the ongoing technical problems, that the cars still don´t receive some central data, which f.i. in the last race gave us the drs-under-yellow problems:
European laws force the FIA to invite tenders for central equipment every three years. That's why they changed this winter the electronics supplier from IMM (a Magneti Marelli daughter) to the cheaper bid from Riedel, a German company. And they simply don´t get it to work.
That's why the electronic sending of flags into the cockpit is suspended since the start of the season, and the electronic disabling of DRS doesn´t really work.
That's why the eight drivers (Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, Kimi Räikkönen, Romain Grosjean, Jenson Button, Valtteri Bottas, Daniel Ricciardo and Max Chilton) didn´t get the mandatory 20sec time penalty, but a "yellow card" warning.
European laws force the FIA to invite tenders for central equipment every three years. That's why they changed this winter the electronics supplier from IMM (a Magneti Marelli daughter) to the cheaper bid from Riedel, a German company. And they simply don´t get it to work.
That's why the electronic sending of flags into the cockpit is suspended since the start of the season, and the electronic disabling of DRS doesn´t really work.
That's why the eight drivers (Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, Kimi Räikkönen, Romain Grosjean, Jenson Button, Valtteri Bottas, Daniel Ricciardo and Max Chilton) didn´t get the mandatory 20sec time penalty, but a "yellow card" warning.
Pirelli brings hard and medium (of the softs). The tyres have been produced for a while now, no changes on short notice possible. The new compounds will be ready for Barcelona.