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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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fu3lfr3nzy
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Shaneus am cry.
Considering how long it's been rumored, at least there's confirmation now.
While TR guys makes sense to switch to RB next year, I'm hoping the rumors about Kimi are true since moving to RB will increase his chances of a second WDC
ah who am I kidding 
Yes, glad Webber signed with Porsche. Good to see him race in Le Mans next year in a prototype. Had more fun watching LeMans this year than F1 for the last 3 years.
At least a discipline where it's just about the racing and not all that bullshit that's there with F1. It's going to be fun not to see him stressed out.
At least a discipline where it's just about the racing and not all that bullshit that's there with F1. It's going to be fun not to see him stressed out.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Complete unsurprise on Webber, I've never seen him going past 2013.
brotkasten
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Webber leaving F1 shouldn't surprise anyone. Even this season was a bit of a stretch for him. The best thing about him leaving is the race for the #2 seat at Red Bull now. That is, if they didn't sign Kimi already.
Bugger.
At least he's left on his own terms, though... can't complain about that.
Prediction: RBR will not get constructors next year, unless they can get someone like Kimi on board.
Was kind of hoping he wouldn't, but to echo what Dilly said, the sport hasn't been anywhere near as exciting as it should've been and staying anywhere would've meant he'd have to bend to both team and sport rules/regulations. I bet he's itching to get into that Porsche LMP1.We all had a good idea he won't be at RBR next year, but leaving the sport entirely
It's going to be great seeing him race around Le Mans in that LMP1 Porsche.
It's going to be an exciting battle in 2014 and onwards between Audi, Toyota and Porsche.
Told you so
SILVERSTONE PREVIEW aka Last Call to beat RBR
To get a little hype in here, lets start the previews before the engines start for FP1.
Track Facts
track length: 5,891m
average race speed: 217 km/h
top speed: 309 km/h
highest g-force: 3,5 g
longest full throttle passage: 13 secs
breaking on a lap: 11 % (6.1 secs according to Brembo)
straights on a lap: 46 %
gear shifts per lap: 46
full throttle on a lap: 61 %
slowest part: 85 km/h (turn 4)
highest speed in a turn: 300 km/h (turn 10)
distance from grid to first corner: 420 m
gas mileage: 2,55 liters/lap; 62 liters/100km
laptime lost per 10 kgs gas in the tank: 0.39sec
tyre usage: 4/5
break usage: 1/5
Since the first GP in 1950 the track has changed its shape several times. Nonetheless the former airport is a true classic that gets fans blood boiling.
A rather gritty surface, combined with a real test of courage in the Copse-Maggots-Becketts passage will show whats in the cars and drivers.
As this years tyres, especially the front ones, deform way more in faster turns, cars will need to be setup higher on the front axle. This is the only real weakness left in this years RBR car, as they lose a lot of their fabulous downforce when setup this way.
So this could well be the last hurra for the likes of ALO and RAI to keep the championship somewhat open. The warmer the weather will be, the better their chances will be on Sunday.
Tactically the teams need to focus on KERS. The very smooth layout without hard breaking spots will make it hard to keep the energy level in the batteries on a constant level. The cooler temperatures make it harder to keep the breaks on temperature as well.
Traditionally, Silverstone is the spot where teams bring their big updates. This year, for many teams it will be the last updates they bring, as many are going to concentrate on next years new regulations. Even teams like MCL could give up on the season after this race, if they see the championship to be unwinnable for them.
Predictions:
Pole - VET
Race - FER > RBR > FOI > MER/LOT
I expect FER to put up a show. If their Spain result is going to be any indication, they´ll dominate. RBR has only small weaknesses left and will be hard on their heels. FOI will impress, this years car is a true and underappreciated winner. MER still has tyre troubles, the weather will dictate their outcome (the cooler the better). LOT is at the end of their dev sched, bringing the last updates for the year. In warmer weather they´ll be able to compete, otherwise they´ll keep falling further behind.
Gentlemen, start your engines!
Psychotext
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A lot of people called that one. I'm personally looking forward to seeing him at Le Mans and this further justifies my trip there next year.
Seriously. Why would Kimi leave super-chilled Lotus for the ultra-political Red Bull team to sit alongside Vettel?
brotkasten
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Perhaps because he want to win races and maybe another championship or two.
It will be interesting to see, if this actually gives him a boost for the remainder of the year.
I mean, there is definitely a weight off his shoulders now. And I don´t exactly see him give a rats ass for team orders the last couple of races. If he really has it in him, now´s the time to show.
I mean, there is definitely a weight off his shoulders now. And I don´t exactly see him give a rats ass for team orders the last couple of races. If he really has it in him, now´s the time to show.
ClassyPenguin
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Oh, Mark. Multi 21!
Seriously depressing news. I would have thought he would move to another team, but he does seem to love his Porsche's.
Seriously depressing news. I would have thought he would move to another team, but he does seem to love his Porsche's.
Fuck it, I should go as well. Going to be epic, now we know that Toyota can challenge and Porsche are back with an LMP1 car.A lot of people called that one. I'm personally looking forward to seeing him at Le Mans and this further justifies my trip there next year.
I have no idea how I'd go about organising it, though. I guess you need a hotel maybe? Man... shit would be amazing.
That's a really good point. In other years, he's gone all weird when confirming his contract... now he really doesn't have to give a shit he can surely cut loose. Also helps that it's happened relatively early on in the season, means that he can have a substantial crack with a new attitude rather than only have a few races to do it in.
Give 'em hell, Aussie Grit!
bobnowhere
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Yep, if they don't promote one of them they may as well just pack up the their junior driver program and spend the cash on mad promotional stunts. Up until they last two GP's I would have though Ricciardo was the one, but the changeable conditions has shown off his one big weakness. He is far too cautious and until he realises that he won't get a better job. F1 and racing in general is about taking risks not taking the easy/safe way out all the time.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Have the Toro Rosso boys been enough. I mean they are kinda average. They don;t show enough uh, chutzpah.
Let´s face it: the chance of RAI getting the cockpit is >80% now.
RBR has shown they´re able to put a competitive car on the track every year. But they still need top notch drivers to compete in both categories. If they take a young talent now, where would that leave them when VET goes to FER? And maybe, next years car wont be able to dominate as much as we´re used to? They could be gone from the top very quickly!
RukusProvider
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Doesn't have vettels outright pace to be an issue.
Psychotext
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You can camp, or if that's a little too ghetto for you, there are these:
http://www.lemansrace.com/deptcontent/mobile-rooms-on-circuit/91/
Which I plan on using. Not cheap though.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Hey, so I think this news justifies a thread title change. Anyone else think this is more appropriate and eye-catching?
The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
That's what I thought
Yes, Make the changes so.
brotkasten
Member
Come on now, he almost won a race this year!
Mark Webber: F1's 'proper bloke' will be sorely missed
Fake edit: Footage from Mark's first win, in Germany.
PS. Thread title <3
Fake edit: Footage from Mark's first win, in Germany.
Yeah, I reckon I'll stay there too... roomie
Not from the pits, smartarse
I can't give any kind of answer now, but it'll be REALLY interesting to see what he can do at Silverstone, if anything. I don't think they'll be that great regardless, but it'd be nice to think that he could have a realistic shot.
Sooo, what odds do you guys give him to actually really win one this year?
PS. Thread title <3
If Vettel went to Ferrari in 2015 I don't think RBR, so long as they continue to be a top team, will have any problems attracting a top driver.
But that's two catches right there.
Will a top driver be available and not contractually bound?
And will they really be a top team next year?
I´m VERY cautious on both counts. The other teams aren´t dumb. If the situation will be like that, they´ll all scramble to extend the contracts of their top talent.
And from every rumor and gossip it seems that from next year on, when we see a more engine rather than car dominated sport, Merc will set the standard.
Big Takeover
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Great move by Mark. It's a tremendous opportunity for him. Heading Porsche's Le Mans program is the absolute very best job there is in sportscar racing. None better. Beats the hell out of treading water in F1, that's for sure.
brotkasten
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In other, more interesting news: Alonso's beard this weekend is pretty fabulous.
Aaaaaaand:
"Raikkonen on his links with Red Bull: "I was drinking Red Bull when I was in Ferrari." So now you know."
Aaaaaaand:
"Raikkonen on his links with Red Bull: "I was drinking Red Bull when I was in Ferrari." So now you know."
Good move Web. Le Mans has a rolling start.
brotkasten
Member
Maybe it's just painted on.
Dave_6
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It was mentioned during the last couple hours of the Speed broadcast that Nissan is aiming for a return to LMP1 in 2015. Color me excited!