Not really. They've had long stretches of not winning championships, but they rarely go that long without at least being front runners.
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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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Myoclonic Jerk
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Diablo Rosso
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Lighting looks off. That's all I can say.
bobnowhere
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Soon, guys.
Amazingly only Rubens Barrichello didn't make the restart, partly due to a small cut on his leg and also that both Stewarts were destroyed. I remember watching it happen, it was pinball in the fog.
Big Takeover
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^^ From start of the weekend to finish, probably the most memorable GP I've ever seen.
JV huge Eau Rouge crash in FP2, and then knife edge Q run which had Frank grinning ear to ear in the pits. Biggest crash ever with Ralf stopping on the side of the road, and Ricardo Rosset no-lifting into the pile. Hour long delay. Michael-Coulthard incident+fight. Huge Fisi crash. Damon-Ralf team orders. Jordan first GP win. There were about 10 cars that could have won, but they all kept crashing. Only 6 left at the finish.
I used to tape (VCR) all the races back then. I probably watched this one 50 times.
JV huge Eau Rouge crash in FP2, and then knife edge Q run which had Frank grinning ear to ear in the pits. Biggest crash ever with Ralf stopping on the side of the road, and Ricardo Rosset no-lifting into the pile. Hour long delay. Michael-Coulthard incident+fight. Huge Fisi crash. Damon-Ralf team orders. Jordan first GP win. There were about 10 cars that could have won, but they all kept crashing. Only 6 left at the finish.
I used to tape (VCR) all the races back then. I probably watched this one 50 times.
I will wait to find out this is an unfinished buggy mess before considering buying it.
Codemasters has screwed us over too many times.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Venezuelan government backed newspaper Correo del Orinoco says Pastor Maldonado is fighting for Ferrari seat in 2014 - lol
He'd do a better job than Massa.
He'd do a better job than Massa.
In his dreems. What a silly porposition.
Myoclonic Jerk
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New Star Grand Prix game
He would certainly smash into a lot more stuff than Massa.
RBR? No. FER? Nope. LOT again? Nah. Kimi to GP3 confirmed.
lol
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/08/16/raikkonen-tests-gp3-car-in-barcelona/
I saved myself an arseload of cash and heartache and just purchased F1 CE on PS3. I wish Studio Liverpool were still around and still had the license for F1
LOT brings last shot car to Spa:
- return of the DDRS
- car gets 10cm longer, mainly on the front axle, so that a redesigned new nose is necessary
- car is so different, they have to make the crash tests anew
- Permane thinks the DDRS will save .3 secs per lap in Spa
- but Permane is adamant, that the change has nothing to do with the new tyres
- Pitlane thinks they are trying to work out their front axle problems this way (its said their fa is too heavy, thus their front tyres are graining first)
- return of the DDRS
- car gets 10cm longer, mainly on the front axle, so that a redesigned new nose is necessary
- car is so different, they have to make the crash tests anew
- Permane thinks the DDRS will save .3 secs per lap in Spa
- but Permane is adamant, that the change has nothing to do with the new tyres
- Pitlane thinks they are trying to work out their front axle problems this way (its said their fa is too heavy, thus their front tyres are graining first)
Waiting until Hammer24 confirms it or not
If it was to be a new(ish) driver, I hope it's him... but I was hoping it was someone like Kimi who could genuinely give Vettel a run for his money, as opposed to Ricciardo who will no doubt take a few years to get accustomed to driving a top-tier car.
If that's the case, I think RBR can safely say goodbye to the Constructors' for the next year or two until the team and their drivers find their feet. Because I could almost guarantee that Vettel and Ricciardo, even in a Newey-designed car, could not do it in their first year with that driver configuration.
Or maybe I just hope that RBR see just how valuable Webber was in obtaining those points and how much they'll miss him come Constructors' time.
Told ya'll so.
Psychotext
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What a waste of a top end seat.
bobnowhere
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Cautious woohoo!
The only way we'll find out if he's good enough is to give him a go.
Maybe. I doubt it though. I'd rather a young driver get that seat than anybody else, Kimi included.
Templar Wizard
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Yeah. Do people get their memory wiped after every season or are they really that stupid?
They finished second in the contructers quite a few times, but had about half the points of the winners. They were not competitive at all between 91 and 96. Finished 4th in the points most years then.
Maybe not quite mid pack, but certainly not front runners.
Templar Wizard
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Looks like rain for raceday with dry qualifying.
http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=f1;page=7;country=Belgium;sess=#forecast
http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=f1;page=7;country=Belgium;sess=#forecast
Templar Wizard
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There is an expert everywhere isnt there?
I'm happy about this
Was hoping for the Kimi thing to happen, but that was only to give Vettel a run for his money... WDC drivers head-to-head. But I'm hoping for great things from RIC. I wonder if Webber will take on somewhat of a mentor role until the end of the season (and even into 2014)?I'm expecting (and hoping) that Ferrari's interest in Kimi will drop now that he isn't up for a seat at Red Bull.
As for Ricciardo, it's now up to him to not be completely forgettable for the first year at Red Bull. I would have rather seen him do another year at Torro Rosso to get ready.
PdotMichael
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Ricciardo is like the worst possible driver for the second Red Bull seat. He couldn't even beat Vergne in the last 1 1/2 years. Even if you say he has the talent to become a good driver, it's still many years too early for him.
Myoclonic Jerk
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He has 2 years to grow in a right setup..
Templar Wizard
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If RBR doesnt recruit from their feeder program, whats the point of the feeder program?
Ric is a good driver who has extracted alot out of the TR, highest dry qualifying etc..
He was good in the YDT in the RBR, he has earned his spot.
Including Vettel, his main concerns should be RBR's achilles heel: KERS and its importance in 2014, less aero focus meaning less Newey magic.
Ric is a good driver who has extracted alot out of the TR, highest dry qualifying etc..
He was good in the YDT in the RBR, he has earned his spot.
Including Vettel, his main concerns should be RBR's achilles heel: KERS and its importance in 2014, less aero focus meaning less Newey magic.
I still think his talks are a smoke screen to leverage LOT. But who knows, how greedy he is nowadays.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Who's Alonso having a pop at now?
brotkasten
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Probably ever since he lost 2010. He needed something to keep him from having a mental breakdown.
Psychotext
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Since his brain broke after not being able to pass Petrov for the championship.
Will never forget that race. One of my favorites. OH GOD!
Depends on your definition of 'front runners' I guess. I think if you're competing for podiums on a fairly regular basis, you're at least a front runner.
As for finishing 4th most years,
1991 - 3rd
1992 - 4th
1993 - 4th
1994 - 3rd
1995 - 3rd
1996 - 2nd
Paints a slightly different picture.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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If Vettel is going to walk another championship this year, then a full-scale Alonso meltdown is just about the only thing that can save it at this point.
Eddie Jordan believes Kimi will go to Ferrari. And Eddie has already proven is no fool about these kind of stuff.
That would explain why Alonso was so eager to criticize Ferrari's car and especially why LdM criticized him and made a point to do it publicly with a press release.
Alonso knows he can't handle Kimi with a similar car so he's pissed. Maybe he should go to RBR to still have a chance to beat his teammate.
That would explain why Alonso was so eager to criticize Ferrari's car and especially why LdM criticized him and made a point to do it publicly with a press release.
Alonso knows he can't handle Kimi with a similar car so he's pissed. Maybe he should go to RBR to still have a chance to beat his teammate.
Alonso can handle Kimi. They are both class acts. It would be great to see them as teammates
Mastah
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Like Massa couldn't handle Kimi with a similar car?
It seems that this stupid chicane is gone.
Oh god, I fucking loved that when I saw it live. Hair-raising stuff. Ballsy.