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The Formula 1 2013 Season |OT| End of the Webber Era
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To the point. I like it.
Psychotext
Member
I guess they must have had a pretty good idea of the problems early on then. How many more races are those gearboxes due to do? (Or was this its fifth?)
I would love CM to surprise me and make a good game but I just don't have faith in them any more with the series.
ooooh
marvelharvey
Member
This one's certainly under the character limit.
Edit: I've yet to play a Codemasters' F1 game and that's all thanks to the constant berating they receive on GAF. Thanks for saving me money everyone <3 <3 <3
Not 2013 that's for sure. Have been looking at some of the gameplay, it is just 2012 with updated sponsors. I was reading that they didn't even update some of the tracks that have had some changes done to them.
Aye I noticed that when they did a lap of Spa they hadn't updated it.
They're a load of lazy fucks with no clue what they're at. How they can make the DiRT games so good yet F1 so bad is beyond me. The sooner they lose the license the better.
They probably spend more than 50% of their budget on the F1 Licence....
I like. make it Webber related.
How is DiRT good? It's fucking crap compared to the earlier Colin McRaes. Those were proper Rally games.
marvelharvey
Member
Saw this posted on another forum:
1971 F1 Team Managers Race, with the F1 drivers hanging out the pit boards each lap.
Who would win today?
1971 F1 Team Managers Race, with the F1 drivers hanging out the pit boards each lap.
Who would win today?
Mastah
Member
Only Singapore, they both got new gearboxes for German GP weekend.
BBC reports about Kimi to Ferrari in case anyone is interested.
That being said, I have complete confidence in EJ's sources, so for me it's pretty certain as it is.
That being said, I have complete confidence in EJ's sources, so for me it's pretty certain as it is.
Damn straight.
Hey man, I thought you were cool. It feels like you just multi-21ed my heart
Damn straight.
Hey man, I thought you were cool. It feels like you just multi-21ed my heart
Lol I love Webber, but sometimes it's too easy to let that pass by.
Said every Webber joke ever
I'm going with my second nomination as my final one, FYI. We should plaster Webber's name in as many places as we can, it's the last year
They're fun at least.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Fernando his binky on Twitter is lobbying to keep Massa. The thought of Kimi as his teammate scares Fernando.
PdotMichael
Banned
I forgot how close Massa was in 2007 - even with the old point system.
What went wrong?
What went wrong?
A rogue spring defending Rubens' honor as best Brazilian.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
He got a spring to the head at 200 MPH.
When Massa was in the lead, nobody would get close to the guy before the incident. And don't forget he would have been world champion had Timo Glock not decided to gift his buddy Lewis the championship in 08 in the last couple of corners.
Or if his engine didn't blow up in the last lap whilst in the lead in Hungary, or if he didn't decide to take the Gas pump with him for a drive through the pit lane in Singapore but whatever
Either way, he was a great driver, but he has never been the same since. Would love to see him successful again, because he seems like a great guy as well, but unfortunately Ferrari can't have him driving their car any longer just based on that.
Psychotext
Member
Yeah, he used to be a hell of a driver. =/
I was also destroyed to see Massa lose it at the very last moment but I can't believe people still think Glock let Lewis pass on prupose. Dry tires under such conditions? It's a miracle he managed to complete that lap.
PS: And yes, Massa was really good before his accident. Or maybe he is still good and Alonso is that better? Next year will show.
Twitter accounts of paddock members is going ballistic with Alonso rumors....
Some of them are completely convinced Ferrari will overhaul their driver lineup and fire Alonso after his tirade on Saturday.
German press according to Will Buxton are saying he will go to Lotus with Santander sponsoring them and Renault paying his salary which doesn't make any sense imho.
Others are convinced he will return to McLaren replacing Button (which is the reason McLaren didn't taken up his option year yet).
Some of them are completely convinced Ferrari will overhaul their driver lineup and fire Alonso after his tirade on Saturday.
German press according to Will Buxton are saying he will go to Lotus with Santander sponsoring them and Renault paying his salary which doesn't make any sense imho.
Others are convinced he will return to McLaren replacing Button (which is the reason McLaren didn't taken up his option year yet).
Templar Wizard
Member
One engineer who has worked closely with [Alonso and Raik] is in no doubt. [about who is better]
"I think Alonso, pretty convincingly," he said. "Everywhere - especially qualifying and the first laps of the race."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24016050
roll on 2014 if the rumors are true!
"I think Alonso, pretty convincingly," he said. "Everywhere - especially qualifying and the first laps of the race."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24016050
roll on 2014 if the rumors are true!
Dutch Gronk
Banned
But where would Button go then? I would love Kimi back, he's my favorite driver, but if it would mean losing Alonso, I'm not sure. Based on his performance the last 3 years, I would like for him to have another go at the championship in a Ferrari next year.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
There's a new two year contract for Button to sign at McLaren, but he keeps talking about Ferrari:
Kimi and Button at Ferrari?
I´m still convinced its just smoke and mirrors from the ALO management.
Who´d take him?
LOT can´t afford him. MCL is not going to touch him with a nine foot pole, after what he did to them. Who else could pay his demands AND has a little hope to be competitive next year? And ALO bringing money instead of getting, I just can´t see that.
He is between a rock and a hard place, and he knows it. That's why he´s losing it so often the last couple weeks. Will be a nice blowup next year.
Who´d take him?
LOT can´t afford him. MCL is not going to touch him with a nine foot pole, after what he did to them. Who else could pay his demands AND has a little hope to be competitive next year? And ALO bringing money instead of getting, I just can´t see that.
He is between a rock and a hard place, and he knows it. That's why he´s losing it so often the last couple weeks. Will be a nice blowup next year.
Templar Wizard
Member
Sorry Hammer, but thats total nonsense. Please detail how Alonso is losing it so often?
I believe this has more truth to it:
http://www.espn.co.uk/ferrari/motorsport/story/124507.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
Dont you running with the Autosport forum rumors too
Big Takeover
Member
That was absolutely brilliant. Chapman, who knew?! Of course his car would break.
Today's team managers are as interesting as a bag of rocks. Although, I'd still like to see it.
Stefano would, LdM would be waving with pit board with words "FIRED = 2nd" and Felipe with second board "FO' SURE"
I really hope that Ferrari is so serious about their 2014 car development as they are for drivers for 2014
Well, one thing I learned in 27 years of watching F1: where there is smoke, there usually is some smoldering fire as well in this circus. It can´t be coincidence that since RAI is talking to FER, slight cracks in the happy valley of red racing have appeared. ALO has a history of not getting along with competitive teammates. He´s frustrated by his contract situation, the lack of a fully competitive car for several years running, and now the RAI thing. He did let his frustration show the last couple interviews. Of course the media will blow this out of proportion, but that's still something he usually doesn´t do. He´s showing nerves, and that's nothing you want to see in a live contender for the WDC.
Dont you running with the Autosport forum rumors too
Sorry, don´t know that forum, so I don´t know what rumors they talk about.
Templar Wizard
Member
Yeah, I bet you have never heard of Autosport and would never visit their forum
The only cracks I can see is that the entire team are frustrated that they are head and shoulders above everyone else, except Vettel and that amazing aero package and they are all extremely focused but it just doesn't seem to be working.
They are still behind him.
The teammate thing is total garbage. Pre Alonso Ron Dennis fallout, Fisi, Trulli were regarded as fantastic drivers. Yet now, because of favourtism towards Hamilton back then, Alonso cant take a fast teammate. But everyone forgets that Massa destroyed Kimi post 2007 and that Ferrari retain him because they think he is fast.
As has been said many many times, Ferrari want the strongest package and they thought they had it with Massa. They offered the drive to Webber last year! everyone here thinks Webber is fast, why would Alonso accept him as a teammate???
ergo total garbage.
The only cracks I can see is that the entire team are frustrated that they are head and shoulders above everyone else, except Vettel and that amazing aero package and they are all extremely focused but it just doesn't seem to be working.
They are still behind him.
The teammate thing is total garbage. Pre Alonso Ron Dennis fallout, Fisi, Trulli were regarded as fantastic drivers. Yet now, because of favourtism towards Hamilton back then, Alonso cant take a fast teammate. But everyone forgets that Massa destroyed Kimi post 2007 and that Ferrari retain him because they think he is fast.
As has been said many many times, Ferrari want the strongest package and they thought they had it with Massa. They offered the drive to Webber last year! everyone here thinks Webber is fast, why would Alonso accept him as a teammate???
ergo total garbage.
Yeah, I bet you have never heard of Autosport and would never visit their forum
No, I don´t, sorry.
Sure, but its not the team doing interviews, ALO is.
I disagree. Trulli, Fisichella, Webber have all never been serious contenders for the WDC. And despite what many people here think, MAS is no more than a luxury water bearer, just good enough to keep you in the constructors alive.
Hey, if ALO beats RAI next year on a consistent basis - good for him! I just don´t see it. He´ll be faster in the first couple races, as RAI will need time to get reacquainted with the red diva. But what will happen from the second half of the season on?
Whatever, it´ll be fun to watch.
Lets give this argument another direction, ok? So Merc and FER now have awesome strong driver pairings for next year. Doesn´t this make the RBR move to take RIC rather weak? How will the compete for the constructor next year?
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
Yeah, I bet you have never heard of Autosport and would never visit their forum
The only cracks I can see is that the entire team are frustrated that they are head and shoulders above everyone else, except Vettel and that amazing aero package and they are all extremely focused but it just doesn't seem to be working.
They are still behind him.
The teammate thing is total garbage. Pre Alonso Ron Dennis fallout, Fisi, Trulli were regarded as fantastic drivers. Yet now, because of favourtism towards Hamilton back then, Alonso cant take a fast teammate. But everyone forgets that Massa destroyed Kimi post 2007 and that Ferrari retain him because they think he is fast.
As has been said many many times, Ferrari want the strongest package and they thought they had it with Massa. They offered the drive to Webber last year! everyone here thinks Webber is fast, why would Alonso accept him as a teammate???
ergo total garbage.
Everyone who have followed F1 for even 1 season would know that Alonso asks to be No.1 in any team he's in or he will create a problem. Happened in Renault, happened in McLaren, and if Kimi joins Ferrari next year and starts kicking his butt royally, he will surely create a problem.
Saying otherwise is pure ignorance. I'm sorry
Templar Wizard
Member
I disagree entirely, the only thing Alonso said is that he would like a RB for his birthday.
Everyone from Ferrari, if anyone would like to move past the tabloid headlines, has stated that RBR is faster than Ferrari and they really need to improve. Just read any comment from Pat Fry, but as Alonso says, that doesn't sell newspapers
Also, you need to pick up a newspaper sometime, Webber was very much a contender for the WDC into the last race of 2010... but I guess that doesn't help anyones argument.
Raik beating Alonso? not going to happen. But 2014 will tell, anyways I think it will be Hulk in the other seat at Ferrari, there can be no other realistic choice.
Your final point, RBR have all the data, they choose Ric not because they like his teeth. He is a very fast driver. Its up to him to deliver, just like the garbage written about Webber v Vettel, Vettel was 2nd in the WDC in 2009... Ric has the same opportunity.
This is a golden age for talent in F1, next year will be platinum.
Everyone from Ferrari, if anyone would like to move past the tabloid headlines, has stated that RBR is faster than Ferrari and they really need to improve. Just read any comment from Pat Fry, but as Alonso says, that doesn't sell newspapers
Also, you need to pick up a newspaper sometime, Webber was very much a contender for the WDC into the last race of 2010... but I guess that doesn't help anyones argument.
Raik beating Alonso? not going to happen. But 2014 will tell, anyways I think it will be Hulk in the other seat at Ferrari, there can be no other realistic choice.
Your final point, RBR have all the data, they choose Ric not because they like his teeth. He is a very fast driver. Its up to him to deliver, just like the garbage written about Webber v Vettel, Vettel was 2nd in the WDC in 2009... Ric has the same opportunity.
This is a golden age for talent in F1, next year will be platinum.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
Lotus are funny
https://www.facebook.com/LotusF1Team
"Not that this mornings confirmation made us smile or anything "
https://www.facebook.com/LotusF1Team
"Not that this mornings confirmation made us smile or anything "
Psychotext
Member
What, no Mclaren?
Templar Wizard
Member
I wanna see the 'contracts'!
Total ignorance from you MJ. Just because El Ron promised him number one status and then decided to change that at race 5 doesn't make it true for Alonso. use your own mind. As Coultard says El Ron does a great honeymoon, but his marriage is awful.
Alonso STAMPED his status at Ferrari with results not ink.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
What, no Mclaren?
lol..
It makes me happy that 2 years ago Lotus (Boullier) screwed up to sign Kimi for 2011 and said silly things like "I need to look him into his eyes and make sure he's motivated".. and now they are so desperate to retain him.
Personally I don't see Kimi moving from Lotus although he wants to.
Well after 2012 there isn't a chance I'm buying another. Truth be told, I'm utterly burnt out on the game series now.
Also, Lotus are the best team by far.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
What contracts are you talking about? I never mentioned contracts, but if you would like to talk about them, how do you know that Alonso doesn't have a clause in his Ferrari contract to promise priority?