What was the problem Bottas had? His team said the start was so bad it didn't show up as a start on the telemetry.
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What was the problem Bottas had? His team said the start was so bad it didn't show up as a start on the telemetry.
Business
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It would add uncertainty to the race that's for sure, which maybe is not bad for the show. Drivers would pit and wouldn't know for certain if they are coming out on clean air or behind a car, a driver wouldn't know how is he doing exactly on fuel so he may risk or not and end up with no gas in the last lap... and so on.
Having said that I still think it works good enough now, but I wouldn't dislike it if they reduced the amount of communication between driver and box.
You heard HAM on the radio Sunday? Even slipstream drag is a thing again.
Not really. The drivers skill shows on Friday, when he decides with his engineers, to what setting the clutch will be handadjusted for the start on Sunday. Misjudge, like ROS has done a couple times, and there is nothing you can do in the car.
Psychotext
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Ignore this.
What's the bite point test thing they do for then on the parade lap and the laps to the circuit?
Also, I think there should be more transparency with the radio messages. Make all of it public after the races. All of it.
The problem during the races is that we only get a fraction of what is actually said and it can add a slat to an event that isn't there.
theignoramus
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Then how come Mark Webber's starts were always bad and Alonso's starts are always good?
Its a software reset/test; and a test to see if it behaves as expected.
Because some drivers are better at determining the setting.
Not only that, but the past few years saw the Ferrari take off like a rocket ship. Massa was usually right behind him weaving through the grid at the start.
theignoramus
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In other news, Sir Jackie Stewart is not even remotely pleased about Hamilton breaking his record of 27 wins.
I believe the man has an axe to grind against the modern era of F1 drivers because they dont race in the gentleman's manner that he did in the 60s and 70s.
I remember reading his list of top 5 drivers and apart from Alain Prost, there wasnt a single person from the 80s, 90s or 2000s from that list...Schumacher and Senna didnt make it, because he didnt approve of the ruthless things they did to win.
Sheesh, the guy sounds almost hostile.
I believe the man has an axe to grind against the modern era of F1 drivers because they dont race in the gentleman's manner that he did in the 60s and 70s.
I remember reading his list of top 5 drivers and apart from Alain Prost, there wasnt a single person from the 80s, 90s or 2000s from that list...Schumacher and Senna didnt make it, because he didnt approve of the ruthless things they did to win.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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I think you should practice your parsing.
theignoramus
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I think Stewart is forgetting he criticized Hamilton's decision to move from Mclaren (an emotional decision he called it) so he can hardly stand there and complain about Lewis being gifted great cars. The move to Mercedes was a gamble that paid off handsomely a year later.
The problem lies with the front-wing and the floor.
EDIT: Stewart is silly.
EDIT2: Somehow I completely missed LdM stepping down. What a sad day, I actually liked LdM
Can't tell if I'm surprised that Bernie is going to be around in F1 longer than LdM.Fair call, I didn't think you were... just... yeah
On another note, another pearler from WTF1's FB:
Fair call, I didn't think you were... just... yeah
On another note, another pearler from WTF1's FB:
Track was dryer and continued to dry up during Lewis' run.
http://fiftybuckss.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/on-board-highlights-italian-grand-prix/
Do not tell me the gap!
lol
They also ran the boot.
brotkasten
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I wonder how the press will react, should Ferrari be more competitive next year (LOL). Are they going to give LdM some credit or is he going to be Ballmer'd?
I think they will undergo serious transition under new management... that could mean several years before they are at the top again.
Perez will soon sign new contract with Force India. It would be awesome if FI can overtake Mclaren in WCC
Myoclonic Jerk
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As much credit as they gave Brawn for this year's Mercedes :|
I was happy to see Dominicali go, I was calling for his head for years. Didn't expect LdM to get the axe too. But it's very well deserved. Leaving SD in his place for years and years, let down after let down has shown that he's not really on top of his game.
Redbull has emerged, a new team, yes new, Mercedes has became a strong team and now dominant. All happened while he was watching
NICE! https://twitter.com/takiinoue/status/509589365505687552
Can't wait for the Lewis x Nico doujins.
Can't wait for the Lewis x Nico doujins.
There's nothing LdM or Ronny D could have done about that. They put everything into fighting for 2007 and 2008, RBR and Brawn just took advantage of the situation and the sport is waaaaaaaaaaay better off for it
Maybe Ferrari will learn their lesson and stop firing high-profile people when results don't come in during one season.
NICE! https://twitter.com/takiinoue/status/509589365505687552
Can't wait for the Lewis x Nico doujins.
red bull is mai waifu
Psychotext
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As previously stated, I approve... but I'm not entirely convinced they're going to actually do it. Even if they do I bet we'll hear some strange sounding code messages all the same.
brotkasten
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Lets see how rookies are going to handle this.
zomgbbqftw
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Good.
Engineer: "Annie going to the left to get across the road, where Nicole is waiting for her with two muffins"
Nico: "WTF"
Psychotext
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Myoclonic Jerk
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There's nothing LdM or Ronny D could have done about that. They put everything into fighting for 2007 and 2008, RBR and Brawn just took advantage of the situation and the sport is waaaaaaaaaaay better off for it
I don't think that's enough of an excuse! McLaren were fighting too and they were able to bounce back faster than Ferrari and on average, in the last set of regulations, they were faster than Ferrari!
They had all the success factors and the pinch from the last set of regulations to enable them to build a championship winning car this year. And what did they do? wasted the opportunity again. That's bad management and bad decision making and we've seen it happen in Ferrari year after year since Todt left. Starting with firing Kimi.. It all went downhill from there
Good. No more "brake 10 meters later in turn 5 for a better exit" bullshit.
"Hate to 'break' it to you, but Friday's meeting at 5 has been moved forward by 10 minutes"
Myoclonic Jerk
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Good move.
haha this is great
Also, does this mean that there is no more switching dials on the steering wheels, as that affects the performance of the car?
no "Fernando is faster than you" ? FAIL
theignoramus
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There is nothing stopping drivers from using one of the two dozen dials on the steering wheel to relay information, then the team responding with a coded message on a board in the pitlane. Is it as fluid as a simple two way radio chat? No, but it's a workaround.
It will eliminate driver's being given specific instructions on how to drive the track though, which is good.
It will eliminate driver's being given specific instructions on how to drive the track though, which is good.
That's exactly what they are trying to stop.
Psychotext
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Will be good to see a bit more pit board action.
Sure McLaren bounced back faster, but Ferrari also lost the title in 2010 and 2012 by tiny margins. You won't like this, but I'm pretty sure hiring Alonso was a much better choice than keeping Kimi
I really wish the FIA would stop changing the rules during the season. Nothing annoys me more, regardless of who it benefits/hinders.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Not allowed:
- Tyre condition
- Brake condition
- Fuel consumption
- Engine maps
- ERS mode
- Fuel mixture
- Differential settings
- Formation lap instructions to prepare race start
Still allowed:
- Traffic info
- Pit stop timing
- Team order
A step in the right direction but a complete radio ban would be preferable - no cheating. Steering wheels need to be simplified, brake bias changes should only be allowed, set car up in practice and deal with it. F1 would be a better place.
so that TS website was correct that Luca would be fired after the Fiat meeting, he wanted a $300m payoff but they settled at $150m. not bad.
does this mean Brawn is suffering from ill health? i haven't read anything else on this? I hope it's nothing too serious.
Prodromou starts back at McLaren next week.
As rumors are saying, he is having problems with his heart due to high blood pressure.
brotkasten
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Psychotext
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Pretty happy with that. I see a lot of complaint about it on the F1 sites but for me it's one of the few good decisions the FIA have made in the last few years.
NICE! https://twitter.com/takiinoue/status/509589365505687552
Can't wait for the Lewis x Nico doujins.
These are amazing.
theignoramus
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When does that ban go into effect, 2015?
I assumed it was immediate.
It is
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