Agreed, putting more emphasis on the driver's is a good development.
Having a driver or two stall or lose ten places due to a slip up at the start only adds to the excitement.
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The Formula 1 2015 Season |OT| Formula E Feeder Series
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Agreed, putting more emphasis on the driver's is a good development.
Having a driver or two stall or lose ten places due to a slip up at the start only adds to the excitement.
Psychotext
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Yup, the computerised starts are utter bullshit. I remember being so disappointed watching them keep going round before the start and doing practice starts at the end of the pits. Some drivers had four or five goes at it. Ridiculous.
Psychotext
Member
Ugh... I really hope we're not going to see the Vettel ability debate started again. It ruined numerous pages in the last thread.
We did it and it's fantastic. There are several good spots to watch from with the best being the first turn area as it's raised and they slow down significantly right in front of you.
PdotMichael
Banned
Driver performance isn't a linear function.
It's that simple.
It's that simple.
Ah yes, first turn seemed great. So did the area around all the food stands. Did you have to get there early to get a good viewing area of first time? Or could I roll up and find a decent spot?
They usually can. I just don't understand these new measures. How does it affect the race if the team are suggesting clutch settings over the radio, or drivers are doing practice starts to get used to the clutch? All it does is make all the drivers more likely to make random mistakes. I don't get why that's a positive. It's fucking hard to get an F1 car to start consistently by their very nature. That's why we have these issues in the first place, and they're still not perfect as they are now (as Mercedes proved on Sunday and Webber proved multiple times while at Red Bull). I don't get why making it harder does anything except make the start slower and more likely to be filled with mistakes.
I mean, I get that it's happening, I get why it's happening, I just think it's counterproductive from a viewing perspective.
Psychotext
Member
I fail to see how mixing up the grid is counterproductive from a viewing perspective. Cars out of position has always made for good viewing.
With regard to the start, these aren't random mistakes, these are the best drivers in the world controlling their car. Should be also provide traction control? I mean, avoiding wheelspin is hard and can compromise them in on the start and on the exit of corners.
With regard to the start, these aren't random mistakes, these are the best drivers in the world controlling their car. Should be also provide traction control? I mean, avoiding wheelspin is hard and can compromise them in on the start and on the exit of corners.
I love this:
Sadly I don't think there's a classy way RB blue and AM green could be merged. But I still think they're a better match than with Infiniti.
They make it sound like it's a flag used in the ini file of Codies' F1 2015 game.
Jaguar morphed (eventually) into RBR? I think I knew that, but it's been a VERY long time.Back to the roots, I say!
Sadly I don't think there's a classy way RB blue and AM green could be merged. But I still think they're a better match than with Infiniti.
Because it is. It is literally a flag in the configuration of the standard ECU all teams get.
Because it makes F1 look amateurish. And it makes the starts slower.
Then they need to be allowed to control the car to the best of their ability. But we're restricting them being able to do that by the very nature of these rules. I don't understand why a team shouldn't be allowed to pass on data to a driver given it's still up to the driver to implement it. And people arguing that drivers shouldn't take practice starts... really?
No, traction control over the bulk of the lap makes driving less challenging and I'm glad it's banned.
Like, if you want me to explain my position, I can't really say much besides I think the start should be fast and I don't enjoy watching drivers suffer because the clutch didn't kick in. Broadly speaking I think the 'driver control' reforms have ignored the amount of extra controls a driver now has to deal with in the course of a lap, as well as the fine margins between success and failure, but like I say, I understand why they're being implemented. I just think the way they're being implemented makes the sport worse.
Psychotext
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There is no "clutch didn't kick in"... there's "I let the clutch out too soon" or "I misjudged the bite point". It's exactly as it is now, but based on the driver's ability to judge the bitepoint for themselves rather than having a computer do it.
... and fuck yes I'm arguing against practice starts, at least as they exist now. Watching drivers go round the course multiple times to pit exit is farcical. Doing them in any of the practice sessions is just fine by me, or even just one or two on race day. Not as many as they feel like.
... and fuck yes I'm arguing against practice starts, at least as they exist now. Watching drivers go round the course multiple times to pit exit is farcical. Doing them in any of the practice sessions is just fine by me, or even just one or two on race day. Not as many as they feel like.
Just posting this here seeing as I just noticed it, but there's an OT for the F1 2015 game: F1 2015 |OT| Bernie says "Think before you buy.
I can't remember... is this the one that Codies were half-assing so they could put the next game in their new engine? Or am I thinking of 2014 and *this* is the new one?
I can't remember... is this the one that Codies were half-assing so they could put the next game in their new engine? Or am I thinking of 2014 and *this* is the new one?
I think this is a ridiculous viewpoint and I think I'll just leave it at that.
This is the new one.
Psychotext
Member
/shrug
Fox Mulder
Member
They presumably half assed 2014 while building up a new engine for this 2015 release.
It's lacking features, but looks pretty and hopefully the handling and AI are good.
Mastah
Member
Nice onboard with Hamilton, Rosberg, Raikkonen and Vettel when it started to rain during 38th lap:
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom...e---onboard-with-the-best-at-silverstone.html
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom...e---onboard-with-the-best-at-silverstone.html
We got to the track hours early, maybe 3-4 hours because of the various support races that happen early on the day of. We got a good spot, but it fills up fast, maybe with an hour or two to go it becomes near impossible to find a good spot. And by good spot I mean enough room for a blanket and chairs for 4+ people.
If you just show up with a backpack and want to stand or sit on the ground, you can always squeeze in as people mill about and move around the whole time, just don't show up 5 minutes before the start and expect to stand in the perfect spot in front of others who have been there for hours as you will get called out on it if you try it.
All in all it's a great experience and people are friendly but it's like any other live event, be considerate of those around you.
http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/07/10/fia-confirms-21-race-2016-f1-schedule/The FIA has confirmed a 21-race F1 schedule for 2016 which will be the busiest in the sports history.
As expected the event in Baka, Azerbaijan has been added in July, while the German GP is back after missing this year.
The other major changes are that the Russian GP has moved from October to May, as the fourth race of the season, whiloe Malaysia has moved to September, and is now twinned with Singapore.
Psychotext
Member
Hmm... tempted to do an USA / Mexico double header.
Italy.
That opening stretch makes a lot of sense, though I'd probably push Baku up to be either immediately before or after Sochi.
The most obvious casualty to knock it down to 20 races is Germany if they have payment issues again. I could also see Hungary or Austria missing out.
Is Malaysia's move to September to do with the rain?
EDIT: Other things announced: Honda get a fifth engine (which... eh, not going to do anything with it anyway), power unit penalties now only affect grid position (fine), Formula E champion gets a superlicence (surely that should be the other way round given the thread title)
http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/07/10/...to-engine-penalties-and-super-licence-system/
The most obvious casualty to knock it down to 20 races is Germany if they have payment issues again. I could also see Hungary or Austria missing out.
Is Malaysia's move to September to do with the rain?
EDIT: Other things announced: Honda get a fifth engine (which... eh, not going to do anything with it anyway), power unit penalties now only affect grid position (fine), Formula E champion gets a superlicence (surely that should be the other way round given the thread title)
http://adamcooperf1.com/2015/07/10/...to-engine-penalties-and-super-licence-system/
fu3lfr3nzy
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I like how USA is the only country that indicates what city the track is from, coz you know, for clarifications sake
Only a 3 week summer break? I wonder if it is planned that Germany or Baku will not make the calendar, or Monza.
PdotMichael
Banned
I like how USA is the only country that indicates what city the track is from, coz you know, for clarifications sake
Well, I guess because Jersey was planned as another USA track at some point.
Fox Mulder
Member
Im definitely gonna try to go to Austin next year.
I still might get to go this year... There is a conference work might pay for me to attend in Austin the work week after the race. If I go to the conference you better bet your ass I'm flying down early to catch the race.
I like how USA is the only country that indicates what city the track is from, coz you know, for clarifications sake
To be fair, Baku is technically the GP of Europe.
next year
next year
"Formula One President and CEO Bernie Ecclestone has stated that the promoters are in breach of contract and that new proposals from other parties would be welcome."
Yeah looks a little bland.
Tilkes comments
EDIT: Far more importantly, might we finally be getting a viable successor to the Grand Prix Manager and Grand Prix World games? After years of GPRM never actually getting anywhere, a new contender has appeared.
World Championship Race Team Manager 2015 got greenlit on steam in April and they said about 3 weeks ago that they are hoping to get a small demo out this month.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=334059290
http://www.raceteamgame.com/index.html
Tilkes comments
EDIT: Far more importantly, might we finally be getting a viable successor to the Grand Prix Manager and Grand Prix World games? After years of GPRM never actually getting anywhere, a new contender has appeared.
World Championship Race Team Manager 2015 got greenlit on steam in April and they said about 3 weeks ago that they are hoping to get a small demo out this month.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=334059290
http://www.raceteamgame.com/index.html
brotkasten
Member
That is really great news. I'd rather play a good manager game than one of Codemasters' racing games.
Rock Hardy
Banned
Hello Valencia 2.0. I fucking hate street circuits. Is there any don't this will result in a dreadful race? I think Singapore is the only decent street course on the calendar, and it's still pretty crumby. No bueno.Is this the layout for Baku? It looks terrible
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Talk of Honda using all of their tokens for Hungary PU, redesigned combustion chamber, new valves, modified turbo, 70bhp boost.
Psychotext
Member
As someone who still occasionally plays the EA F1 Manager for the hilarity points, this is good to see... but I don't think it's a coincidence that (with the exception of the Kalypso games which I'm told are terrible) every single time I've seen someone try to make one they've hit problems.
I'd take that over how it is now.
I guess it will all depend on how far they get.
GPRM looked to be the thing we all wanted but after 12 years its still not made an appearance and the devs can go 6 months without saying anything about the project.
This one at least has gotten to Steam and might manage to get into early access.
I've said to them via facebook that communication is paramount after other games that have been promised and never appeared, and that following something like the Kerbal idea of just a paragraph every week from each member about what they are doing.
Tired of hearing the "well that's time that could be spent making the game" argument over little bits of info like that. Writing a paragraph doesn't take that much time out of your week and keeps the fans connected with the development of a game they've paid to access before release. That's assuming this gets that far.
Roude Leiw
Member
Dont forget that its DTM weekend.
LIve streams of the quali and races can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/DTMinternational/featured
LIve streams of the quali and races can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/DTMinternational/featured
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Ayyy lmao.
Fox Mulder
Member
would be nice if they actually get their shit together instead of wasting a year of two veteran drivers. I've just tuned out anything mclaren or honda say anymore until I see it on track.
JadedWriter
Member
This looks like it was designed using an Etch a Sketch.Is this the layout for Baku? It looks terrible
And that's if they don't flame out on the installation lap like Magnussen in Australia.
Elvin Atombender
Member
Merhi made himself look quite bad in the World Series race that just finished.
He caused a huge crash when he braked hard just after the finish line when he had two cars still fighting for position at full speed right behind him. One of them went into his back at high speed and flipped over.
He caused a huge crash when he braked hard just after the finish line when he had two cars still fighting for position at full speed right behind him. One of them went into his back at high speed and flipped over.
Mastah
Member
Merhi almost stopping after crossing finish line and getting 10 second penalty for track limits - result:
http://imgur.com/MHjYU8o
Fucking idiot.
http://imgur.com/MHjYU8o
Fucking idiot.