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The Formula 1 2015 Season |OT| Formula E Feeder Series
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I'd love to go back to Budapest, fabulous city.
Psychotext
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JadedWriter
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Big Takeover
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Did McLaren really pay Alonso that much? They were the only suitor in the market...
brotkasten
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Holy shit. I mean, it's not like he's poor, but considering what he's doing and what could happen to him, 50k a year does not seem like a lot. Wasn't it like 250k for the drivers in the lower teams?
Bottas is a rookie and Red Bull is cheap.
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bobnowhere
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Red Bull have very high success payments. Ricciardo probably made 2-3x his wage in bonuses from his wins last year, 1 million a race win if I remember correctly. This year, not so much.
brotkasten
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Success payments from a mid-field team doesn't seem like a fair deal.
And damn, Kimi's just driving the money safely to the bank account. No need to hurry at all, even if it's his last year. Must be nice!
JadedWriter
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But Bottas finishes most of the races he's in and is a consistent point scorer. Lotus is pretty much just paying Maldonado to break the car and make their carbon fiber supplier rich. Bottas even has more podiums than Maldonado. Isn't he in his third season now with Maldonado in his fourth?
This might explain why Ricciardo has such a fake smile planted on his face after some of the races. I think after the Canada race dude said he was fighting back tears.
brotkasten
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Wow, you're right. This is Bottas' third year! For some reason I thought he joined last year and this was his second. Maldonado joined in 2011. How time flies.
JadedWriter
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Yeah I guess he's officially in his fifth season, but I tend to not count the season until it's actually over. The only thing Maldonado has over Bottas is wins, crashes and the amount of cars he's flipped over.
Ganzlinger
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Man, Red Bull doesn't like to spend much on drivers, eh?
And poor Merhi :/
And poor Merhi :/
Mohonky
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Haha Mclaren and Ferrari are getting ripped on Raikonnen and Button.
Surprised the average wage is around $3-4m, then of course it blows out at the top end of the field. Most of the drivers are actually on less than I would have imagined.
Merhi on $50k pounds surprises me a lot. I mean, it's not chump change and plenty of successful athletes in other sports get paid less, but in a sport as glamorous as F1 it's amazingly low.
Do these wages count money taken for individual sponsors?
Surprised the average wage is around $3-4m, then of course it blows out at the top end of the field. Most of the drivers are actually on less than I would have imagined.
Merhi on $50k pounds surprises me a lot. I mean, it's not chump change and plenty of successful athletes in other sports get paid less, but in a sport as glamorous as F1 it's amazingly low.
Do these wages count money taken for individual sponsors?
You will get cooked. Get ready. And also get ready to run under some cover when thunderstorms rolls over Panonian plain
bobnowhere
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I'm pretty sure a lot of the Red Bull system drivers also "owe" money to RB for funding them in lower formula. Hence they are on lower wages.
So how do the "pay drivers" get paid? Sponsorship/driver give team money, some of it goes to the driver as wages?
Also, I would think a lot of compensation for the drivers come from sponsors rather than the team similar to other sports (mental model is mostly American sports so could be incorrect for F1).
Also, I would think a lot of compensation for the drivers come from sponsors rather than the team similar to other sports (mental model is mostly American sports so could be incorrect for F1).
Big Takeover
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Ham(15), Alonso(17), Seb(21), and Kimi(32) are all on the Forbes annual list where they break out the endorsements. It's surprising little compared to a top US athlete for example. Lewis makes a fraction of what everyone else in front of him pulls in.
(USD)
Ham - 3mil
Kimi- 2mil
Alonso - 1.5mil
Vettel - 1mil
Américo Teixeira, a very serious and well informed Brazilian journalist said that Nasr won't go to Williams next year. It's not commercially interesting for Williams to have two drivers from the same country, and he has a 2 year contract with Sauber, where Banco do Brasil specifies that their sponsorship deal is up only if Nasr drives for the team. So unless something big happens, Nasr will stay at Sauber.
Psychotext
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Cheers, will give them a look.
As for my fellow race gaffer, I may have to roam over to silver 4 and see if I can guess which you are.
I think we might have melted by thenCheers, will give them a look.
As for my fellow race gaffer, I may have to roam over to silver 4 and see if I can guess which you are.
dont santander bank roll alolso?
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Given that Jenson has managed to score points in that shitbox, I'd say he's worth every penny.
brotkasten
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In a weird way, I find it still impressive that the McLaren with the terrible and handicapped engine is still faster than the Marussia with last year's Ferrari engine. Makes me feel bad for Marussia.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Well it's not only last year's engine, but also last year's car with very slight modifications to conform to this year's regulations.
brotkasten
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Oh, right. I forgot that their new car is still coming in August.
Mastah
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These breaks are godsend. During F1 weekends I'm watching something like 22 hours of F1, GP2 and GP3 over 3 days. If there's IndyCar or MotoGP, that's 25-30 hours. Sucks to be motorsport addict, so weekends like last one with only IndyCar race are so refreshing
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brotkasten
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I'd LOVE to see that. Not because I hate McLaren or anything (I really don't), but because it would be some kind of success for Marussia and that would be great. Damn, you stupid little underdog team...
brotkasten
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Yeah, I'm very happy that the new rear wings are finally wider again. It just looks so much better. The wider wheels would look better with bigger rims, though.
The end of these stupid, high, narrow, toyish rear wings? Yes!
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/formel1-auto-2017-9689160.html
The wide front wing looks pretty funny and is that slanted rear wing their way of "making the cars look more aggressive"? Because it's looks like something a fan would come up with.
Anyhow, I'm sure the teams will make the cars look good.
I'm glad to see that Sauber is keeping Nasr and Ericsson. They're both solid drivers.
Anyhow, I'm sure the teams will make the cars look good.
I'm glad to see that Sauber is keeping Nasr and Ericsson. They're both solid drivers.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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I'd like to see a large simplification of the front wings, personally, and I'm also not keen on the apparent increase in barge board size, but otherwise they seem to be on the right track.
Cool. Been impressed with Nasr. Hope Ericsson improves in the second half like he did last season though, he's been fairly average thus far.
Mohonky
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That is a lot of rubber on the rear.
Dont mind the current wings to be honest, I like the height of them, the 2017 ones look kind of low.
Well at the current rate the FIA will run out of penalties to give than Honda will engines over the year. i've never heard of teams having so many penalties, they are starting the grid from last position by default. Not that it matters, they would only get ahead of Marussia anyway.
Dont mind the current wings to be honest, I like the height of them, the 2017 ones look kind of low.
Well at the current rate the FIA will run out of penalties to give than Honda will engines over the year. i've never heard of teams having so many penalties, they are starting the grid from last position by default. Not that it matters, they would only get ahead of Marussia anyway.
Business
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Yes please.