Waste of resources. Probably statement was made pre-race, when they thought that they really caught Mercedes and received nice reality check during the race. Unless they will use remaining races for testing new parts, some of which could appear on 2016 car. But that will soon be a case for all teams.
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Waste of resources. Probably statement was made pre-race, when they thought that they really caught Mercedes and received nice reality check during the race. Unless they will use remaining races for testing new parts, some of which could appear on 2016 car. But that will soon be a case for all teams.
massivekettle
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Yep. Apparently, Ferrari is going to totally revamp their chassis and PU for 2016. Marchionne sounding extremely confident. I've heard the term "revolution" to describe their 2016 car earlier this year.
It's going to be the first 100% Allison car too...
We might be looking at a Kimi or Vettel WDC...
Only technical issues can stop Lewis this season
It is Monza weekend and of course Ferrari will tell everything to please their fans, sponsors, investors and Italian press. Even more, if the empire big boss comes around to check the team.
We will see next March, how many of that boasting will come true.
It is Monza weekend and of course Ferrari will tell everything to please their fans, sponsors, investors and Italian press. Even more, if the empire big boss comes around to check the team.
We will see next March, how many of that boasting will come true.
Sounds like a disaster in the making.
Lose a couple of world champions for more "young Senna's"? You'd get more "fun" in crashes and stuff, but I prefer better racing instead. Even today it was a joy to watch Kimi go through the field.
If anything I'd like to see a senior driver do a race every now and then. Maybe one of the smaller teams like Marussia and McLaren could do it as a marketing exercise.
Red Bull won't use Renault engines in Formula 1 in 2016
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120696
Hope Honda supplies them lol
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120696
Hope Honda supplies them lol
Breaking News: Disgruntled Alonso leaves McLaren and joins Red Bull for 2016.
Breaking News: Red Bull announces that it will use Honda engines in 2016.
Could you imagine...
Well that certainly shakes things up next season. That Lotus acquisition is also probably going to go down too, correct?
Breaking News: Alonso announces retirement to go in acting career 2017
Breaking News: Alonso stars in the The tragedy of the Samurai 2018
Yea, don't see why not. It will be good for Renault, less bitching in general.
Fox Mulder
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Redbull needs to do what they need to do, Renault has been shit. Walking away from a close works deal and into a second class customer deal with anyone else must be a hard choice in the end.
Agreed, sounds a lot like McLaren in 2013(?). That was the last year of the previous formula, correct? Whichever year it was where they were close to winning pace the prior year and redesigned everything with worse results.
Jesus Christ dude, you won by a fucking landslide.
Dude gets more annoying as the days roll by.
I actually thought this was a great moment. He just realized he has the championship in the bag for this year.
brotkasten
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The word "revolution" from Ferrari always sounds like "another 5 years without title" to me.
Breaking News: Alonso found dead at apartment, reportedly hung himself.
Breaking News: Computer experts suggest Alonso's last read e-mail sent by Red Bull chief Christian Horner, titled "Sorry Fernando, it's gonna be Honda. Hang in there."
theignoramus
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Not until the head of Honda's F1 program is fired.
Fox Mulder
Member
It's possible, but Renault got worse this year and spent lots of money themselves.
Surprised no-one's really mentioned Ricciardo during this race, did well to go from 19th to 8th, especially considering he'd just taken Ericsson on the last lap and was seriously close to nailing Hulk as well. Given that POS Renault, incredibly solid race.
Side question: Is there any possibility whatsoever that Honda could have a decent PU next year? Do they use tokens if they work on developing an engine behind the scenes if it's not used during the current season?
Side question: Is there any possibility whatsoever that Honda could have a decent PU next year? Do they use tokens if they work on developing an engine behind the scenes if it's not used during the current season?
massivekettle
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And also keep in mind that he was probably extremely confused and possible worried given the weird instructions from the team at the end of the race...
nature boy
Member
He's hyping Ferrari because yes it's his job but also there's a Ferrari IPO in the near future.
Also, his boss was at the Italian GP, so he has to double down on the optimism.
Not to say Ferrari won't be successful, the investment has been huge, but his words go far beyond the F1 team.
Although I still think Mercedes will win this years and next years titles.
Not if they change their way of operating - if they want success, they can't use their F1 program as a training program for their engineers.
And Mclaren's "size zero" concept was a huge and stupid risk considering the state of Honda's PU.
He's had two good starts since the rule change, I hope that's a sign he's improved (or maybe it's just everyone got a lot worse lol).
I'm guessing this was just after the race during the fuss over the tyre pressures, probably one whole bag of mixed emotions going on, I would probably be curled up in a corner somewhere just crying, just had the perfect race and Grand Chalem weekend, put a firm hand on the WDC trophy for that so important 3rd time... and then have to deal with a mound of shit over 0.3psi which had absolutely nothing to do with you.
RBR will end up either with Ferrari or Mercedes engine. German manufacturer is still waiting for Lotus decision and they will supply RBR only if they lose Lotus.
Horner would rather see Ferrari engine, but Red Bull big boss wants Mercedes and he is putting pressure on Bernie to help them with this matter.
Horner would rather see Ferrari engine, but Red Bull big boss wants Mercedes and he is putting pressure on Bernie to help them with this matter.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Grand CheFUCKINGHELLlem
Myoclonic Jerk
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Grand Chelhammer?
I was wondering if he'd claimed a Grand Chelem this weekend but I couldn't be bothered to check. Nice to see he got another
PdotMichael
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Yeah, eh. How is Ferrari is supposed to solve the mid season developement weakness if they are never stop developing again so early?
Business
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Ricciardo was fantastic, it was a shame he lost a tad more time in blue flags than Hulkenberg and Ericsson in the last few laps or he'd have gotten Hulkenberg too. I'd say all 4 Red Bull drivers were great, maybe Kiviat shining a bit less. Perez was great too, consistently faster than Hulkenberg on all tyre conditions. Those were the performances of the day in my opinion.
massivekettle
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Grand ChelHAM. Or Uber Grand Chelem?
Probably trying to get Renault to hurry up and complete the purchase of Lotus already.
brotkasten
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This quote from Vettel is like the perfect Ferrari mantra of the last few years.
"I had a great car today, not good enough to win but good enough to just finish second."
"I had a great car today, not good enough to win but good enough to just finish second."
He has nothing in the bag. OK I'm not saying he wont be the Champion but what happened to Nico could happen to him.
Myoclonic Jerk
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True, but if he's almoat always in front of Nico when he finishes a race he has nothing to worry about
Mercedes will destroy everyone else from next race anyway.
Gongrats Lewis. Well deserved
I don't know, that guy is born to be successful, I'd go as far to say he could be the one to break MSch record of 7 wdc... if McLaren-Honda wasn't there to stop him.
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Btw I find it really impressive that Massa is 6 points ahead f his team mate. The guy has a very consistent year. Even though his too old for this
I took that moment as him just appreciating the tifosi/fans. He's always going on about how much he appreciates his fans, and there's nothing quite like the Monza podium - even if they're all cheering for the guy stood next to you.
It's too early to say he has the Championship in the bag, we've still got the Singapore 'swing' to get through first. But yeah, with a current 53-point lead he's definitely in a more dominant position than this time last year.
It depends more on Ferrari's new technical staff than on Vettel. If they can finally manage to develop a car in one direction instead of stagnating or going backwards, then Vettel will surely be a WDC candidate. He is a very consistent driver who rarely makes big mistakes, which is the most important driver skill if you want to win a championship. And he also seems to get along better with his crew, which, being part of the nebulous human factor, isn't completely irrelevant.
JadedWriter
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OT2: Don't cry for Rosberg, he's already dead.