Vettel V Hamilton V Alonso all in competitive cars next season!
Ahahahaha, almost had a straight face
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Vettel V Hamilton V Alonso all in competitive cars next season!
Would be funny next year when I quote all these posts the day Alonso seals the title.
Psychotext
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brotkasten
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[Felipe Massa] told F1i.com: "I believe that Nico's situation will only get worse next year because Lewis keeps winning and also 'winning' the team for him.
"I think Nico's only hope is to change teams so he can start fresh all over again."
He'd know.
"I think Nico's only hope is to change teams so he can start fresh all over again."
He'd know.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Redbull is so desperate they became a charity case..
I bet they're regretting all the negative media they caused around Renault now..
Did Renault buy Lotus yet? That went quiet
I wouldn't even rule McLaren being competitive next season out completely. It's not completely unrealistic to concede Honda the ability to fix their disastrous engine when they are actually allowed to work on it.
That said, it's not like McLaren has consistently built competitive cars over the last years. So they might also end up with another shitbox.
brotkasten
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Looks like Christmas came early for Kyvat, as Horner confirmed him for next season.
Wonderboy won't be pleased.
Wonderboy won't be pleased.
To be honest if Kvyat's proven anything this year it's that an extra season (or two) at Toro Rosso can be more beneficial for a young driver than being thrown into a Red Bull. Even granting that I'd argue Kvyat's had some good results recently, it took him quite a while to get there and his crash in Japan proved he's still not 100% yet.
EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm happy Kvyat is at Red Bull next season - he's been keeping Ricciardo on his toes recently.
Good, glad they're sticking with him. They've ditched far too many promising drivers that haven't been given a full chance.
Business
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Right call in my opinion.
Wonderboy and Wonderboys' dad wanted to stay at STR. Learn more and more at a more low profile team...
brotkasten
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I meant Sainz.
I agree, he just looks desperate staying in the dominant team hoping Hamilton goes full-tilt so he can win. Even if he does grab the title, it won't look 100% authentic because the argument will be " well Hamilton just got bored after three titles" - regardless of whether it's true or not he's been shown up two years in a row.
Verstappen needs at least two years total in Toro Rosso, three would probably be ideal. Throwing a hot-headed rookie into a top team is a turbulent affair (thanks, McLaren).
JadedWriter
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Where would Nico even go? McLarry?
Good call cause Verstappen isn't done cooking yet.
nature boy
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Dunno what's funnier: people thinking Wonderboy was moving to a big team for 2016 or brotkasten trying to label Sainz as Wonderboy.
LicenceToK1ll
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Sainz latest performances have not been anything special I agree to qualify him as a Wonderboy
PdotMichael
Banned
At least Wonderboy has a car with an engine next year.
Kölsch Bloot
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With all the recent talk about RBR sticking to Renault or using one of their PUs in an un/rebranded version I'm getting the feel this has been the plan all along.
Make Bernie/FIA worry about four cars leaving to bag an alternative PU solution for 2017. Then have Illien rework the Renault and take the best possible product (reworked Hybrid PU or an Illmor 2,4l V6 Biturbo w/o Hybrid) for 2017
Make Bernie/FIA worry about four cars leaving to bag an alternative PU solution for 2017. Then have Illien rework the Renault and take the best possible product (reworked Hybrid PU or an Illmor 2,4l V6 Biturbo w/o Hybrid) for 2017
nature boy, when is Sainz going to help Verstappen get Toro Rosso ahead of Lotus in the constructors championship?
More serious: Good on Kvyat, beating Ricciardo so he deserves to stay in F1 next year.
nature boy
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Outside of the 3 times he was ordered to let Wonderboy pass?
brotkasten
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Why do you think he was ordered to let Verstappen pass?
Sainz always locks his brakes when he "lets Verstappen pass"
See, what a team player.
nature boy
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For the same reason Wonderboy was ordered to let Sainz pass in Singapore.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Depends on him actually.
How much is he charging the promoters for that race?
I know that Bahrain and Abu Dhabi, for example, gets charged $40+ mil annually to host the race. Now they're left with no option but to hike up the tickets prices and that leads to less growth if not a decline in the sports popularity in the region, which is new to the region to begin with
The whole business model of F1 needs to get revamped, it's no longer the case that rich countries will pay anything to get F1 at any cost, even rich Gulf countries are tightening their belts with subsidies from Gas, food, electricity, housing..etc are being cutdown. So sooner than later, if not already begun, people will start asking their governments if those funds worth it or not
To give a specific example about Bahrain, they've just lifted this month the meat subsidy and saved the Govt $100 mil per year.. now.. meat vs F1? People are pissed, and I assume that's the case or will be the case in so many other countries too
Bernie & Co. should think of a better way to raise the popularity of the sport so that people would come to races and that will lead to more fans, more merchandise sales, more money to F1 teams and F1 as a whole
So instead of Bernie asking promoters to "copy" Mexico, he should help new places and other promoters to effectively do their job. The loss of Korea, India, Jerez which were all new circuits will make any new country/promoter think twice before considering having F1
Not that strange if you look at Verstappen senior's career. If there's anyone who knows what it's like to be in a top team when you're not ready yet it's him.
brotkasten
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That sweet post-race salt.
Speaking on Monday, Hamilton was asked if he felt that the team had orchestrated the result.
"I never think those kind of things," Hamilton responded.
He added: "But I know the team has felt the need to be extra warm [to Rosberg]."
When asked to elaborate, Hamilton said: "I do know what I mean, but I'm not going to say what I mean. You should ask Toto Wolff [Mercedes team boss] and Niki Lauda [Mercedes non-executive chairman].
"You should put those questions to them about how they feel about it, and what they have to do behind the scenes to keep him happy."
http://planetf1.com/news/lewis-merc-were-extra-warm-to-rosberg/
Speaking on Monday, Hamilton was asked if he felt that the team had orchestrated the result.
"I never think those kind of things," Hamilton responded.
He added: "But I know the team has felt the need to be extra warm [to Rosberg]."
When asked to elaborate, Hamilton said: "I do know what I mean, but I'm not going to say what I mean. You should ask Toto Wolff [Mercedes team boss] and Niki Lauda [Mercedes non-executive chairman].
"You should put those questions to them about how they feel about it, and what they have to do behind the scenes to keep him happy."
http://planetf1.com/news/lewis-merc-were-extra-warm-to-rosberg/
Totally agree, Kvyat showed he can get results. Regarding Max, he is fast all right but if he doesn't manages to get hold of his ego he isn't going anywhere. Also he needs a better coach than his father.
I think bringing up India, where there was a huge public programme to try and build the profile of motorsport, and the Grand Prix has only broken down because of a dispute over tax, is incorrect here. (No idea if similar happened in Korea)
Read some of his interviews. Especially after he caused a collision with Grosjean in or around Monaco.
darkinstinct
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That sweet 2015 Ferrari engine.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Mercedes has the two worst cry-babies in Formula One history under contract. Not just post race, they are equally annoying with their in race chatter and constantly asking for team assistance with this or that.
JadedWriter
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How have they been any worse than Alonso this year whom seems like the most disrespectful one during his radio sessions this year, in my opinion...granted yeah I'll agree Rosberg has been a bit of a tosser this year. You know what fuck it they've all had their moments. Raikkonen should be added to that list and I don't mean from an asking for radio assistance perspective either.
PdotMichael
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Humble Vettel.
He's probably not wrong though.
It certainly looked like Hamilton was handling his tyres better than Rosberg and that the team made the decision for an additional pit-stop to protect Rosberg as much as it was out of safety reasons.
Whether Hamilton actually would have had a better chance to win is still debatable, though.
Having said that, I think the reason Hamilton is talking about it is just to stick the knife in a bit, just like him laughing off the gusts of wind. He probably wants to get to Rosberg a bit more ahead of next season. Could back-fire, of course.
brotkasten
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It's definitely mind games.
"You wouldn't have won this race, if it wasn't for the team's assistance."
Mohonky
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Just caught the race;
- Hamilton fan but Nico did well today, he still had an off that he shouldn't have but Hamilton had an excursion too, just a slippery track. Don't really feel the comment about Merc just making sure Nico gets a win to keep him happy, Hamilton just didn't have the pace and Nico held his nerve. We've seen it at a few tracks now.
- Vettel get into Raikkonens supply before the race? Guy was a complete mess, I don't think he's ever been that bad in a race before.
- Bottas to Raikkonen; "cop that asshole". Well played.
- Honda; we have no idea what we're doing.
- Race was fairly uneventful really, but the crowd was insane. Someone give that crowd full year tickets and travel so we can have them at every race.
- Hamilton fan but Nico did well today, he still had an off that he shouldn't have but Hamilton had an excursion too, just a slippery track. Don't really feel the comment about Merc just making sure Nico gets a win to keep him happy, Hamilton just didn't have the pace and Nico held his nerve. We've seen it at a few tracks now.
- Vettel get into Raikkonens supply before the race? Guy was a complete mess, I don't think he's ever been that bad in a race before.
- Bottas to Raikkonen; "cop that asshole". Well played.
- Honda; we have no idea what we're doing.
- Race was fairly uneventful really, but the crowd was insane. Someone give that crowd full year tickets and travel so we can have them at every race.
The team has won the constructors and the drivers championship. The only other scraps from the table would be to finish 1-2 in the drivers table, so there might be a tiny bit of Rosberg favour at the team just now.
But even saying that - they had a pitstop in hand and if they bring in one driver they are likely to want to bring in both, so they can cover off any eventuality - if (as did) a safety car came out and they were on super old tyres while others were on fresh, they may have been in danger of losing the race. Unlikely, but if they have the time in hand why not?
and post pit-stop I wouldn't be surprised if they were asked to hold station to bring the points home.
I don't think ego matters much in this sport. So many successful drivers are dickheads but no one cares because they're fast.
Psychotext
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Thing is, had they pitted Rosberg and then Hamilton's tyres fell apart, he'd have blamed the team anyway. Let the whiny fuckers make their own decisions.
nature boy
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Lewis is just as much as a crybaby as Alonso, people have short memories.
Every time he's not happy he makes these kinds of accusations, only never to materialize them.
The way he responded to what happened in Monaco. Wonderboy doesn't take criticism.