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The GAF POP |OT| of Diversity, Hidden Talent, and Stan Wars

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Guess I'm just going to have to ramp it up from now on if these DISSENTERS keep rearing their heads.

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Dr. Malik

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Rumor is that Shakira and Rihanna were both seen leaving the studio, they might be working on a collab

I am not ready for that type of slayage if its true
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Everything Rihanna does, music-wise, is SUPERIOR to Beyonce.

It really isn't. Rihanna is just Beyonce minus the class, talent and solid hits. Rihanna can have as many #1's as she likes, but the only songs people are going to remember her for are Umbrella and We Found Love.

In 20 years, we'll all have forgotten Rihanna, and she'll be working as a fluffer for some greasy porn director in California, remembering when she was rich and famous.
 

Peru

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For real though, all through Rated R exciting traces of her island music roots meant she was a real thing of her own in the pop scene, and although she's BRIEFLY tapped into that later (Man Down) it's been drowned out by the loud bosh tunes and that plinkety Calvin Harris song. 'Music of the Sun' and 'Rated R' represent two exciting, very different takes on that sound that still represented Rihanna's own personality. That's gone for now.
 

Peru

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She's had lots of non-generic hits -- unfortunately they stopped selling as well as her generic hits. Not everything is black and white, Beyonce has had a much more substantial career but to mention Rihanna and that blank-faced Katy Perry in the same sentence..
 
She's had lots of non-generic hits -- unfortunately they stopped selling as well as her generic hits. Not everything is black and white, Beyonce has had a much more substantial career but to mention Rihanna and that blank-faced Katy Perry in the same sentence..

I put them in the same field because they've both conquered radio with pop hits even though they themselves have marginal performance talent. The difference between the two of them however are two-fold:

1) Rihanna has little restraint and has been willing to work with virtually anybody, while Katy Perry doesn't seem to care about collaborations
2) Katy Perry actually WRITES her own songs, which I will unconditionally value more than someone who doesn't
 

royalan

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I put them in the same field because they've both conquered radio with pop hits even though they themselves have marginal performance talent. The difference between the two of them however are two-fold:

1) Rihanna has little restraint and has been willing to work with virtually anybody, while Katy Perry doesn't seem to care about collaborations
2) Katy Perry actually WRITES her own songs, which I will unconditionally value more than someone who doesn't

You know, I've always hated this mindset. Some of the best vocalists/entertainers of all time were not songwriters, and only recently has that been seen as a bad thing. Where would ICONIC vocalists like Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Julie London, Sarah Vaughan, Judy Garland, Dusty Springfield, Shirley Bassey, Whitney Houston, Mariah Ca--oh, nevermind, be if their talent were measured by whether or not they wrote their material?

Likewise, where would Cole Porter, George Gershwin, Diane Warren and Linda Perry be? ICONIC songwriters every bit as famous as the talent they worked with?

Granted, I'm in NO WAY trying to place Katy Perry in the same God Tier as many of the names I just listed, but once upon a time being an entertainer was about honing your specific talent, and working with people who were just as talented in other areas in order to create overall artistry. It wasn't about every artist being some catch-all jack of all trades. Because one truth remains: if a song sucks, most people won't give a single fuck whether or not the artist wrote it.

Besides, I wouldn't give Katy sole credit when Max Martin is also credited as co-writer on pretty much all of her hits.
 

Kyon

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Katy Perry actually WRITES her own songs, which I will unconditionally value more than someone who doesn't

Sorry but this is the dumbest thing about stans this generation. Alot of LEGENDS dont write their own songs that doesnt make them less of an legend/artist sorry. Funny thing its only little cutters who started this because their fave talked about writing her own songs LOL. Just take a seat. Not here for this. Beyonce STEALS WRITING CREDITS ALMOST EVERY ALBUM SHE'S WORKED ON doesnt make her less of a SLAYER on stage or in the studio. Just leave that argument alone tbh

































































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Majmun

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Sorry but this is the dumbest thing about stans this generation. Alot of LEGENDS dont write their own songs that doesnt make them less of an legend/artist sorry. Funny thing its only little cutters who started this because their fave talked about writing her own songs LOL. Just take a seat. Not here for this. Beyonce STEALS WRITING CREDITS ALMOST EVERY ALBUM SHE'S WORKED ON doesnt make her less of a SLAYER on stage or in the studio. Just leave that argument alone tbh

Then I'm sure Britney didn't write the songs you've mentioned earlier either

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At least Caca uses a real castle and not a video screen.

What's your point? Why would Madonna want to use a castle? She actually uses the stage space to dance and put on a show, not just fuck around like a chubby little prick.

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Kyon

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Then I'm sure Britney didn't write the songs you've mentioned earlier either

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you reaching sis. How are you gonna sit there and tell me Bey hasnt stole writing credits? Remember when she claimed to write Survivor and got her ass sued? Cmon lol Even the Irreplaceable claim. Gurl >.>
 

Majmun

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you reaching sis. How are you gonna sit there and tell me Bey hasnt stole writing credits? Remember when she claimed to write Survivor and got her ass sued? Cmon lol Even the Irreplaceable claim. Gurl >.>

Go look at wikipedia for each Bee album and read the writer and producers list

The receipts don't lie

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you reaching sis. How are you gonna sit there and tell me Bey hasnt stole writing credits? Remember when she claimed to write Survivor and got her ass sued? Cmon lol Even the Irreplaceable claim. Gurl >.>

Wasn't there another claim from a writer/producer just recently?
 

DMeisterJ

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Sorry but this is the dumbest thing about stans this generation. Alot of LEGENDS dont write their own songs that doesnt make them less of an legend/artist sorry. Funny thing its only little cutters who started this because their fave talked about writing her own songs LOL. Just take a seat. Not here for this. Beyonce STEALS WRITING CREDITS ALMOST EVERY ALBUM SHE'S WORKED ON doesnt make her less of a SLAYER on stage or in the studio. Just leave that argument alone tbh

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Preach!

No one gets mad at all the actors that didn't write the scripts that they get Emmy and Oscars for, but for music it's somehow different. Nope. Not here for that.

[quote="Second, post: 38460219"]Go look at wikipedia for each Bee album and read the writer and producers list

The receipts don't lie

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Wikipedia for receipts? Shaking my goddamned head.

Bey's been stealing writing credits forever. We all know Matthew been trying to pass off ghost writer's music as his daughters since the stone age.
 

royalan

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you reaching sis. How are you gonna sit there and tell me Bey hasnt stole writing credits? Remember when she claimed to write Survivor/Kissing You/If I Were A Boy and got her ass sued? And got CLOCKEDT trying to claim she wrote Emotions? Cmon lol Even the Irreplaceable claim. Gurl >.>

Fixed, Sis ;)
 

Majmun

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That blog isn't obscure enough. The language alone makes that person a no-name hater.

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What other fave has won a songwriter of the year award?

http://www.ascap.com/playback/2002/december/popawardsphotos.aspx

Could any of your fave get this star-filled youtube birthday present:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cGJ9eFSbFo

Or sing for the president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-pzlZPRvx8

All other faves are pretty basic compared to Beysus actually

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The thing about Beyonce that annoys me is that none of her ideas on the creative side of things seem to be her own. If they were, she would never had agreed to wear her mothers FRIGHTFUL designs while a member of Destiny's Child.

Just seems to me that she has a handful of gays that tell her what to do and how to look fabulous. Other people in her industry aren't that transparent.
 
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