Oh man, you reminded me I wanted to rip that sound for a cell phone tone. Love it.The Enterprise-A bridge from VI will always be my favourite. It looks sleek and futuristic, and also looks worn and realistic, the layout's perfect, the clock, and that creepy intercom chirp.
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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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DrForester
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Pretty much any bridge but the Enterprise D.
And the E Bridge...
Pretty much any bridge that has more than one seat in the middle sucked.
Least Voyager got rid of the councilors chair...
And the E Bridge...
Pretty much any bridge that has more than one seat in the middle sucked.
Least Voyager got rid of the councilors chair...
lastplayed
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Wouldn't it be awesome if you got a call: "I can see you... can you see me?"
I agree. I like the bridges where the Captain's chair is alone. Other chairs just seem to take away authority.
I think that was the point. It was supposed to reflect a more deliberative captain.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Yes they are, especially Code of Honor. Probably one of the absolute worst ST episodes ever. My condolences.
Fortunately, the later seasons get a lot better. TNG is still the best Trek!
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
If Riker doesn't have a beard, skip the episode.
Good rule of thumb but....Tasha...
The Librarian
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If you're really that serious about skipping, just watch these:
TNG S1
Encounter at Farpoint
The Big Goodbye
DataLore
Coming of Age
Skin of Evil
Conspiracy
Neutral Zone
TNG S2
Elementary my Dear Data
Matter of Honor
Measure of a man
Q Who
Tasha blows.
lastplayed
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Encounter at Farpoint needs to be watched to better appreciate the series finale.
GameplayWhore
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I was under the impression that 11001001 was received fairly well.
Also, Skin of Evil? That's not a very good episode, and I don't think you really need to watch it to appreciate
Yesterday's Enterprise
The Librarian
Banned
Well, it involves the death of a character, so I consider that fairly significant.
GameplayWhore
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It iiiiis if you put it that way, or you could just say "Hey, remember the Engineer and the Chief of Security in Season 1? They accidentally stepped on a black hole while walking around on the red matter planet".
There, problem solved. If we can live with seeing one major staff member disappear from S1 without explanation, we can live with another doing so.
edit: Or did you forget that the Enterprise had a revolving door for some staff members early on?
StalkerUKCG
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The Librarian
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It iiiiis if you put it that way, or you could just say "Hey, remember the Engineer and the Chief of Security in Season 1? They accidentally stepped on a black hole while walking around on the red matter planet".
There, problem solved. If we can live with seeing one major staff member disappear from S1 without explanation, we can live with another doing so.
edit: Or did you forget that the Enterprise had a revolving door for some staff members early on?
Given how much nostalgia and related stuff is attached to said character later on, I'd say it's still necessary.
This list is excellent. Watch those episodes, and you're set for the first two seasons. If you want to be a completionist, return to those seasons when you're done with the show.
DrForester
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Skip NOTHING. You can't appreciate the great episodes without also experiencing the bad.
Voyager's second seat for the XO I can kind of understand, but a seat for the counselor? Two spare seats in case some random person drops by...
Voyager's second seat for the XO I can kind of understand, but a seat for the counselor? Two spare seats in case some random person drops by...
SpoonyBard
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True. There are only a couple of REALLY bad episodes in season 1...
Enterprise D was made in peace time, mainly for diplomatic missions and exploration. Having some extra seats next to the captains makes sense, I think, in that environment.
It only seems useless because Deanna was useless. Imagine if they had a competent Betazoid in that chair.
lastplayed
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Imagine if they went with this bridge... it even has a balcony!
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
That's pretty cool but honestly, it looks.... casual. Like, the rec room melded with the Bridge. I can see why they didn't go with that design.
benjipwns
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I agree with this in part. I think you have to watch the absolute worst ones. In DS9, VOY and ENT too.
Not the middling boring ones, but the abject dreck.
Especially if you're watching it with somebody, wife, friend, boyfriend, whoever. Alone is one thing. When my one roommate was getting into Trek for the first time (later he mainlined DS9) after he watched First Contact randomly, I showed him II and VI and then was like "now it's time to watch The Final Frontier before anything else." I think that was one of the times I saw the positives of it and decided it was better than Generations.
I always loved these looking in the compendium or technical manual or whatever it was back in the day. And being like WTF. I think the one old Phase II book had similar designs.
Even the bridge as it was kinda looks like the Ferengi ships.
If Roddenberry had these designs and was trying to pitch the show in 1996 it'd be "Friends in space" or something.
Got back from STID. Fun, and I still like how they handle the characters a lot. Story was fairly tight initially but started going haywire.was pretty laughable, and I thought theGravity existing in freefallwas groan-inducing and way premature given that the crew hasn't been together enough to evoke that level of emotional response, imo, and its solution was pretty obvious even from this daft fellow.death of Kirk
But overall I liked it a lot (especially since I've always wanted to see more). It's still causing the same trouble to the "bigger picture" that the previous film did, especially in thatSection 31, both things that put them rather far beyond TNG in technological capability and kind of limits potential for future drama a bit. I suspect that both elements will be ignored when necessary.the Federation now has the technology to pretty much destroy all its enemies in seconds from the comfort of home with some mass produced transwarp bombs (hell, why even build a super ship when this technology exists??), and they also have the ability to cancel death
Now I finally get to go back through the last twenty pages and read the black bars.
Say, since you're chatting about DS9, has DeCandido's DS9 rewatch, recently started and quite insightful, been mentioned?
They will probably hand wave
the trans-warp technology since
1) Scotty didn't actually invent it in 09, just use it
2) Section 31 refined it with Khans help and he was killed and, presumably the base that refined the technology was completely destroyed
3) Admiral Robocop was, presumably the current section 31 head, and not on was he killed, but his advanced ship was completely decimated
4) 90% of the Admiralty was wiped out
Add all of that together and I think it's safe to say that the Federation suffered somewhat of an organizational and technological setback. It's silly to say that the information on trans-warp and all the advanced technology under Section 31 was just lost, but I think it's even sillier to keep it around.
Besides, the next film will be about the 5 year mission.
1) Scotty didn't actually invent it in 09, just use it
2) Section 31 refined it with Khans help and he was killed and, presumably the base that refined the technology was completely destroyed
3) Admiral Robocop was, presumably the current section 31 head, and not on was he killed, but his advanced ship was completely decimated
4) 90% of the Admiralty was wiped out
Add all of that together and I think it's safe to say that the Federation suffered somewhat of an organizational and technological setback. It's silly to say that the information on trans-warp and all the advanced technology under Section 31 was just lost, but I think it's even sillier to keep it around.
Besides, the next film will be about the 5 year mission.
GameplayWhore
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(also your general logic is just sound enough for space opera, so I think I can accept it if they do that, though I'll still bitch from time to time anyway)
I'll believe that when I see it. It's just as likely that
they'll be called back from the mission partway through, or despite it being a deep space mission they'll somehow still be a short trip away from Earth or New Vulcan, or they'll be on home shore leave when a third Earth-hating terrorist comes by to cause trouble for the Federation, and they're the only ship in the galaxy for some reason.
Lumpy Onion
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Wow, just watched TNG "The Offspring". Such a beautiful episode. Not a single shot fired or moment of impending doom yet it effected me more emotionally than any episode I have seen yet. So good. I have a couple random episodes left in S3 before Best of Both Worlds.
I kinda think I want to go back and watch some of S1 and S2 of TNG and see some of the episodes mentioned a few posts back. I want to see an episode that I vaguely remember from watching as a kid. It involves Wesley Crusher and some kind of strange cult or something where he is studying.
Having all these shows at the push of a button is fantastic! Pretty much validates subscribing to Netflix streaming for that alone.
I kinda think I want to go back and watch some of S1 and S2 of TNG and see some of the episodes mentioned a few posts back. I want to see an episode that I vaguely remember from watching as a kid. It involves Wesley Crusher and some kind of strange cult or something where he is studying.
Having all these shows at the push of a button is fantastic! Pretty much validates subscribing to Netflix streaming for that alone.
lastplayed
Member
It finally arrived.
I was a bit worried about some of the markings. In one video review it had "USS Excelsior" on the secondary hull. But not here, Enterprise all the way.
It even comes with a spare set of batteries. But they won't be installed until Tuesday.
I was a bit worried about some of the markings. In one video review it had "USS Excelsior" on the secondary hull. But not here, Enterprise all the way.
It even comes with a spare set of batteries. But they won't be installed until Tuesday.
I get that reference.
It may have already been posted, but I found this amusing little commercial while searching for other things on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfNv9qLvy4
Features Shatner and Doohan, but it must have been from too far outside of a film production as Doohan is in the D's engineering section.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfNv9qLvy4
Features Shatner and Doohan, but it must have been from too far outside of a film production as Doohan is in the D's engineering section.
DrForester
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Enterprise D engineering was used for the engineering section in 5 and 6 I believe. They were very good and redressing TNG sets so it wasn't that obvious.
Other great Star Trek 6 example. I didn't realize it was 10 forward until pretty recently.
viewtifulsub
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They also blew up the conference room (the dining room in TUC.) Data's quarters was redressed as Spock's, I believe.Enterprise D engineering was used for the engineering section in 5 and 6 I believe. They were very good and redressing TNG sets so it wasn't that obvious.
Other great Star Trek 6 example. I didn't realize it was 10 forward until pretty recently.
lastplayed
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Man TUC looked great.
The hallway sections in 5 and 6 are really obviously TNG sets. I actually find it a bit painful.
radios shipping overview
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They used those same corridor sets in STII and III before TNG. The amount of reuse that went on between the different movies and series is pretty ingenious (and/or pathetic - see the Bird of Prey explosion in Generations).
It was much more obvious between TNG and 5 and 6 than to the older films, though. I don't think they had a lot of time to change them between filming.
lastplayed
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Some more pics... I need a better setup.
One thing I really don't like is the black wash they've smeared all over it. I assume it's supposed to be weathering, but it just looks dirty.
One thing I really don't like is the black wash they've smeared all over it. I assume it's supposed to be weathering, but it just looks dirty.
The Librarian
Banned
Looks gorgeous!
Some more pics... I need a better setup.
One thing I really don't like is the black wash they've smeared all over it. I assume it's supposed to be weathering, but it just looks dirty.
Sexy.
I wish it was easier to get some ship models here, I really have no interest in putting them together myself from the little model kits, I am terrible at at. And the nice big ones can be really expensive.
It is a shame Star Trek never got the Action Fleet style toys that Star Wars had, those things even as kids toys can look really nice sitting on a desk or shelf, and there was a literal ton of them to buy for almost every different ship.
Enterprise D engineering was used for the engineering section in 5 and 6 I believe. They were very good and redressing TNG sets so it wasn't that obvious.
Other great Star Trek 6 example. I didn't realize it was 10 forward until pretty recently.
Oh, I knew about the set redresses, just mentioned it probably not being too close to one of the film productions since it wasn't redressed at all. Of course they probably wouldn't do so for a commercial, but it's nice that they got permission to use the set. One minor error during ST VI with the redresses was that they forgot to change some of the control panels so they still have the TNG-era LCARS layouts.
Here's a site with a great list of reused sets between the various films and series:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/reused_ship_interiors.htm
lastplayed
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Thanks. She's a majestic ship.
Tried having a look on eBay? That's where I have to get all my ships from. The shipping can be almost as much as the model but in total it's about the same price as a new Xbox game or something. And it only took just over a week to ship from the US all the way to NZ.
I've got my eye on the E-E and the Wrath of Khan Enterprise now... gotta keep my eye on that wallet though.
StopMakingSense
Member
Always reminds me of the time I ran into Kurtwood Smith at Walt Disney Concert Hall and told him I just watched ST6. He got a kick out that that.