SpoonyBard
Banned
After McCoy.
And I still thing the writers didn't know what to do with him being a genetically engineered superpowered genius, so they ignored the whole thing for most part.
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The General Star Trek Thread of Earl Grey Tea, Baseball, and KHHHAAAANNNN
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After McCoy.
And I still thing the writers didn't know what to do with him being a genetically engineered superpowered genius, so they ignored the whole thing for most part.
benjipwns
Banned
Doesn't he constantly talk about "frontier medicine" in the first few episodes? That romantic view, from his privileged background, of being out there in the wild west settling the untamed. (Plus pining over Dax.)
Then we last see him going into a black ops agent's mind to get a cure for a genocidal virus with his non-enlisted blue collar buddy. (Also bedding a different Dax.)
Plus all his secret agent fantasies, just be recruited into said black ops organization and lunch with a plain and simple tailor.
The one part I like about his genetically engineered thing is that he's actually quite too insistent, even though the writers apparently had no idea before, at telling people how he botched his exam. So it kinda works even though he was just supposed to be arrogant and annoying before.
Then we last see him going into a black ops agent's mind to get a cure for a genocidal virus with his non-enlisted blue collar buddy. (Also bedding a different Dax.)
Plus all his secret agent fantasies, just be recruited into said black ops organization and lunch with a plain and simple tailor.
The one part I like about his genetically engineered thing is that he's actually quite too insistent, even though the writers apparently had no idea before, at telling people how he botched his exam. So it kinda works even though he was just supposed to be arrogant and annoying before.
The Librarian
Banned
Even better than McCoy, I believe. Bashir grew into himself, and his relationships with Garak and O'Brien were far more enjoyable than McCoy had with Spock and Kirk. My honest opinion is that his bromance with O'Brien was the best bromance in all of television.
TNG had the worst doctors
DrForester
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McCoy > The Doctor > Bashir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phlox >> Pulaski > Crusher
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I don't think McCoy was the best doctor, I prefer Baker or Eccleston.
Wait, where am I?
Wait, where am I?
BattleMonkey
Member
From what I remember they had a publisher that went belly up and they were trying to find a different one to pick up the game for over a year.
In case anyone's interested, Amazon has the TNG film Bluray set for $24.96.
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Melchiah
Member
Lot of the bits that were meant to be funny went past me, as I found it hard to like any of the characters. Well, excluding the Cardassian tailor, whose name escapes me right now. It seems to be a common problem regarding Star Trek series for me personally. Voyager is perhaps the exception, but even there was one character I just couldn't stand, namely Neelix. That's one of the reasons Babylon 5 clicked better with me, as there were no annoying characters whatsoever among the regular cast. Well, the commander in the first season was kinda stiff, but that's pretty much it. EDIT: I spoke too hastily, the telepath leader in the 5th B5 season was annoying beyond belief.
The trill were actually introduced in a TNG episode. Though there were some significant differences.
I really like Crusher and all the eps where she's either in charge of the ship or solving a mystery kinda thing.
Even when Deanna was in command, Crusher was showboating. Like that time when she and Geordi decompressed a shuttlebay, lol..
That was the ep where Crusher was like "I can't be lesbians with you, sorry" in the end right?
Also, I really hate foil relationships. They're so shallow on tv and easy to write that they're tiring to watch.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yikes. You'd think that'd mean that the rights would go back to Paramount or whomever though.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how the Star Fleet Battles universe work? Is it considered "Star Trek" or is it its own different thing?
Yep. Two trill "lesbian" episodes, both end in failure. lol
Although, I suppose if you're not attracted to women that's just the way it goes... even in the 24th century.
Strangely, I don't think the whole "Trills can't sleep with old lovers" thing was established yet in that episode.
Escape Goat
Member
Worf made perfect sense. A person in charge of coordinating Starfleet and commercial traffic in an area experiencing hostile aliens. Plus, we saw Worf move into command and do more than be the muscle. I think he worked great for DS9 but his relationship with Dax was dumb.
McCoy > Bashir > Crusher > Phlox / Pulaski >>>>>>>>>> The Doctor.
I really, really hated The Doctor.
DrForester
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What didn't you like about Holodoc? I thought most people were generally happy with him.
SpoonyBard
Banned
Just ordered TNG season 1 BR set for 38 euros. Yay!
benjipwns
Banned
Yeah, they did find some solid uses for her. She's good when tethered to Picard, in charge in Descent, having crap happen in Remember Me, the one where the scientist is murdered, where she figures out the time loop in Cause and Effect, etc. There's a couple where she replaces Troi as Picard's moral confidant that I thought worked well. She gets spotted pretty well in First Contact too.
Just endless shame about Sub Rosa.
You think you've seen everything about Trek.
SniperHunter
Banned
The doc from Voyager was pretty cool, but his continuous obsession with Seven of Nine got lame as time went on.
Not a huge fan of the doctor on VOY. I feel there was far too much focus on him on the few times I watched while other people like Harry just stagnated.
I love that tethered ep. Dammit their chars should have gotten marrieds, even if it's absolutely awkward that her prev husband was his friend the two characters had a lot more chemistry and depth than all the skank-o-da-week types (VASH).
Time loop thing is an excellent ep, but her being the POV made it even better for me.
Oh lord Sub Rosa, forgot about that almost. I loved the setting of the episode though, it seemed to be a higher uh budget to it? As a kid I didn't know about budget but the idea of varied locales or effects made certain eps cooler than they were.
I love that tethered ep. Dammit their chars should have gotten marrieds, even if it's absolutely awkward that her prev husband was his friend the two characters had a lot more chemistry and depth than all the skank-o-da-week types (VASH).
Time loop thing is an excellent ep, but her being the POV made it even better for me.
Oh lord Sub Rosa, forgot about that almost. I loved the setting of the episode though, it seemed to be a higher uh budget to it? As a kid I didn't know about budget but the idea of varied locales or effects made certain eps cooler than they were.
That's because Harry was boring and the Doctor was interesting.
Escape Goat
Member
Harry was an ensign for 7 years. Most people are an ensign for 3 at most unless they fuck up royally. And he was supposed to be the eager, Mr Starfleet guy. The convict who didn't graduate Starfleet Academy got promoted faster than he did.
He probably got promoted to junior junior ensign when Voyager made it home.
If they ever make a new Star Trek show, I'd like to see a guest appearance by all the lame characters manning a ship of the damned: Riker's clone, Pulaski, Troi, Wesley, Kim, Chakotay, etc.
Zombie James
Banned
Didn't help that Harry was written like a complete pussy. Who the hell would scream and freak out about having a "nightmare" where you bone Seven of Nine?
Tom graduated didn't he? Keep in mind he's not the same person as he played in TNG.
Maybe the "nightmare" was that he was boning Seven of Nine, but "Little Harry" couldn't "get promoted" either.
If... youknowwhatImean.
Escape Goat
Member
I guess he did graduate. Still, he progressed faster than Harry and he wasn't even trying.
ThLunarian
Member
The next Trek series needs to be called "Starfleet Medical", and take place in a Star Trek hospital. Bashir and Holodoc could be main characters. And Pulaski could be the dean of medicine.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I always liked Harry, but I thought they wrote him horribly. However, there were a few episodes where he shined so bright (and showed his potential) that it just made it all the more infuriating.
Like the future episode where he and Chakotay try to save Voyager from crashing into a frozen moon like 30 years ago. Harry was fucking awesome in that episode. And the ep where the entire crew and ship were really the gel creatures from the Demon Planet and they were slowly deteriorating and dying. That was one of my favorite Voyager eps, and again Harry was really good in that one.
Harry was a great character and actor that was horribly underused and ignored by the writers.
Voyager has a few truly great eps, but for the most part the series just pisses me off. So much wasted potential from a fantastic premise.
Escape Goat
Member
Anyone can be a doctor in star trek so we can have a huge rotating staff. If you can wave a laser beam over someone you can pretty much cure them of any injury.
Zombie James
Banned
For the longest time I've always loved the idea of doing a series from the other side of the fence. Like a series based on the lives/adventures of a Romulan crew.
ThLunarian
Member
I heard somewhere (possibly in this thread) that Garret Wang was a total asshole to work with, especially when it became clear to everyone that the series as a whole was terrible. That might be why the writers didn't bother giving him a chance.
Escape Goat
Member
I heard he would come in late all the time even after the showrunners chastised him about it. But then he made a pact with Satan and got on Peoples Top 50 Hottest Actors and they decided not to cut him (bye bye Kes instead).
I always found it odd people talk about new Trek series'. Abrams has a put a halt on any tv series for the near future and intends to keep it film only for now. Bob Orci says the only possibility of a Trek show in the near future would be a animated series in the Abrams timline.
ThLunarian
Member
*shrug*. I also genuinely think it would have been awesome to do an episode of "Enterprise" where Dr Sam Beckett leapt into Captain Archer's body, and have Al be a guest star. As you can see, I don't have very many awesome ideas that are actually plausible.
GameplayWhore
Member
Wasn't he simultaneously the ship's helmsman, nurse and shuttle builder? He also was far more evolved than the rest of the crew at one point, and he seems the type to go the extra mile and sleep his way up the ladder of success.
I'd say he was trying pretty hard.
Screw that. Hire Hugh Lauire and make the show House in Space.
Yikes!
La-La-Land just announced that they'll be producing a 15-CD soundtrack of :all: episodes of The Original Series.
Gonna be expensive, but folks've been waiting for this stuff for decades.
Good for Paramount loosening up and letting this stuff get restored and released. The dollars don't hurt, of course.. but it's niche, to say the least!
La-La-Land just announced that they'll be producing a 15-CD soundtrack of :all: episodes of The Original Series.
Gonna be expensive, but folks've been waiting for this stuff for decades.
Good for Paramount loosening up and letting this stuff get restored and released. The dollars don't hurt, of course.. but it's niche, to say the least!
GameplayWhore
Member
You mean call it "Station"?
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Got through "Our Man Bashir" tonight. One of the more entertaining holodeck(suite) episodes. Such a shameless (albeit decent) ripoff of James Bond. Garak good as always.
I kind of enjoyed "The Sword of Kahless" as well.
"Little Green Men" was interesting, though I'm not a huge fan of the Ferengi-centric episodes.
The two-parter starting with "Homefront" is next. Don't know if I'll get through all of it tonight, though it sounds pretty good based on the description.
I kind of enjoyed "The Sword of Kahless" as well.
"Little Green Men" was interesting, though I'm not a huge fan of the Ferengi-centric episodes.
The two-parter starting with "Homefront" is next. Don't know if I'll get through all of it tonight, though it sounds pretty good based on the description.
DrForester
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Did you like "The Magnificent Ferengi"?
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Watching in order, so I haven't seen that one yet. I never saw DS9 on TV either, at least that I recall (being a young kid when it would have been airing.) My parents didn't watch it either, like they did TNG and Voyager.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
I happen to be in S6 of my re-watch. Fun little episode. Just finished "Far Beyond the Stars" though. So good. Especially loved the meta touches to the pulp era of science fiction.
lastplayed
Member
The Magnificent Ferengi was bloody
brilliant.
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Homefront was an idea that was good but it's not executed superbly. It's still fine, but I think the budget and constraints of episodic TV harmed it.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Oh, and Neelix is like the Star Trek version of a less bad Jar Jar Binks.
Thought just crossed my mind now.
Thought just crossed my mind now.