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The Grand Tour |OT| ...of the world

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DrForester

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Well, that was enjoyable, and it still felt like Top Gear.

I do hope the studio segments get better, but that would be my only criticism. Can they not do any type of news segment?
 
Just finished it and the production values were absolutely incredible. I think some of the studio segments were quite weak, I wasn't a fan of the American driver, and at times it did feel somewhat Americanised at times (the start in particular), but overall it was still a very strong first episode and I can't wait for the rest.
 

The Beard

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Please don't.

It was by far and away the worst part of the show.

It wasn't remotely funny and went on far too long, much like the audience fighting over air forces.

For you. I found both of those funny. I even thought the American driver was decent. The Stig was so tired, especially since the other TGs used him as well. It stopped being funny 8 years ago.
 
Just finished it and the production values were absolutely incredible. I think some of the studio segments were quite weak, I wasn't a fan of the American driver, and at times it did feel somewhat Americanised at times (the start in particular), but overall it was still a very strong first episode and I can't wait for the rest.

The start was bespoke to this Los Angeles episode. Presumably they'll have an African themed one next week. The Mike Skinner Captain America Stig was indeed forced however. Mike's fine, but that was too much. I would have liked to see someone a bit higher profile. Marcus Gronholm Stig anyone?
 
I thought it was pretty poor overall and feel the first episode needed more clout to make an impact. The formula is well past it's best and has become lazy.

The Yank Stig looks a poor choice, the new track is underwhelming and most of the studio segments were cringe worthy.

Meh, I just hope there's one or two good specials come out of it because the rest is just a groundhog day rehash.
 

inner-G

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The intro seemed like a cheesy Forza Horizon wannabe segment

The rest was pretty decent though. Looks amazing video-wise. Glad to support 4K/HDR content
 

Pharaun

Member
I loved the episode, it felt good to see the guys again.

I agree that the NASCAR guy was a little over done. I wish that they would have turned the bit on its head. Let the trio keep talking him up to be a redneck hick but then when we actually hear him have him be very articulate and eloquent. That would have been hilarious.
 

enzo_gt

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My impressions:

What I liked:
- The season montage looks like we're in for quite a thrilling ride, and dare I say it looks like perhaps one of the most diverse season montages we've ever got from the trio.
- I like the tent a LOT. The windows seem like such a great idea for the nature of the show as well. The interior's design feels very cozy as well, from the diamond shaped platform to all the wood to the table setup and decorations. Super excited to see the backdrops over the course of the season.
- Cinematography is as good as it's ever been. This was most noticeable in the Holy Trinity segment.
- Speaking of that, the entire Holy Trinity segment was fantastic. This is what Top Gear is and what Top Gear is all about, and just makes the gulf between this and the poor replacement of Top Gear that much wider.
- The Volkswagen joke omg
- I'm glad that they have a new track, but I think it's way too early to comment on how good it is for testing cars (RE: variety of turns), but we've been used to the Top Gear test track so long that I think, over time, it will build memories, corners will get names based on those memories, and we'll all get used to it. The scenery is also a marked improvement, but I hope it gets a better name in future episodes.
- The M2 test was just a good, solid segment. Nothing exceptional, but I didn't expect much since they were just trying to show off the track.
- The banter and chemistry is seriously untouched from when they left Top Gear. This is the most important thing the show needed to get right and it did.

What I don't know about yet:
- I'm somewhere between appreciating and not liking the intro. The bits with Jeremy leaving the BBC were all fine, but I'm not too hot on the Mad Max tribute. As soon as they all got into different Mustangs it felt a bit.. odd.. and forced (even though, I get it, the bill is being footed by Americans now and we should celebrate, but even the planes felt over the top). Not only was it a bit overindulgent in tone (might be due to musical choice), but I got a feeling that even more attention should have been paid to more of the cars there. Upon rewatching it, I can spot a lot more cars I didn't see the first time around, but still, there was an even greater variety of cars that were present there that didn't get their spot to shine. Just weird to me that you could have the newest Ford GT there and it not getting a spotlight. I guess that also might be the point, but it felt like it could have been shot/edited better to some degree.
- The jokes about leaving the BBC or the way they said things to allude to Top Gear were pretty hit-or-miss, and there were a lot of them peppered throughout.
- Celebrity guest segment was hysterical, but I'm wondering what it will actually be like in future episodes, and we didn't get a good sense of that quite yet.

What I didn't like:
- There were a few times the humour didn't go over so well, like the drone being shot and the edited fight over who has the best air force. Bit goofy at times, and I hope it's just them shaking off the dust and it's not going to get slapstick or anything.
- I get that Ferrari have been super stingy for a while now with lending out and allowing time trials of their hypercars and they riffed off of that for the entire episode, but I feel like they should have at least known or disclosed that some LaFerraris can be driven only on electric power.
- The American doesn't really have the personality of The Stig, and his lines were kind of cheesy in a not-good way. Hopefully he gets better as the series goes on, probably the weakest part of the episode next to the fight about the air force.

My takeaways:
- Fantastic start to what looks to be a promising series, and one that I can comfortably know I don't need to supplement with the husk that is the current Top Gear to get my Top Gear fix. So much time and effort was put into setting up the show, explaining all of the new segments and making references to the BBC split in this debut episode that it's understandable why perhaps it wasn't the most focused thing, but all of that is necessary and I think the trio will get more comfortable as the series goes on. The chemistry is there. The cars are there. The boys are back.
 

HariKari

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They can't have a stig or anything to close to a silent nameless driver due to legal reasons, that would be too 'top gear' so certain things have to be deliberately just different enough while still being essentially the same show.

I'm aware, he just seemed cliche and not particularly funny. The Stig was mainly an excuse for Jeremy to talk more and be witty. There wasn't anything witty about "The American"

I'd prefer the F1 driver they used did it and talked a bit about how the car feels while driving.
 

Chris R

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Cut all studio segments except for the news next season please.

Other than that it wasn't terrible. Was Skinner the best driver that they could find?
 

gngf123

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'The American' was terrible and by far the worst part of the new show.

Outside of that I thought this was a good first episode. It was good seeing them back.
 

Fox318

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Man I can't believe the hate for Skinner. Dude is a real race car driver and its a different take from the standard f1 driver.

Its not like he hasn't raced on road courses before.

They could have gotten a Supercars driver from Australia.
 

gngf123

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Man I can't believe the hate for Skinner. Dude is a real race car driver and its a different take from the standard f1 driver.

Its not like he hasn't raced on road courses before.

They could have gotten a Supercars driver from Australia.

I don't have a problem with his pedigree or that using a NASCAR driver is a different take to using an F1 driver. Dude can clearly drive really well.

The "everything is communist" and "this isn't a real car!" manufactured personality and commentary was just an awful fit and wasn't even close to being as funny as they were obviously trying to make it, and they tried to keep the joke running through the whole segment which just made it even worse.

I guess it's a very different type of humour they are going for this time around which is more familiar to Americans? Only explanation I've got, because otherwise it came off incredibly forced.
 

enzo_gt

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BBC's review of the first episode:
...it seemed the show was aimed at the big screen, not the telly. Or a mobile phone, which is how I imagine a lot of people will view it.
The cheesy smiles are not a set up to a joke, but a precursor to them taking to the stage in the manner of rock stars on tour. A huge crowd of cheering fans has amassed at their feet. There is no irony. It feels uncomfortably hubristic.
Clarkson has repeatedly said during his round of interviews to promote the programme how much he hates his co-presenters. The assumption that this is a tongue-in-cheek comment, adding a dynamic to the sitcom feel the show has of three middle-aged male characters haplessly going about their business as car journalists. But the screen chemistry between him and May suggests there's a ring of truth about Clarkson's claim, which is not much fun to watch.
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They're back! Great episode.

Anyone know the actual translation of what Jerome d'Ambrosio said?
Apparently, this.
 
The NASCAR driver was embarrassing, and I'm sure they chose him to represent their idea of stereotypical Americans. Those studio segments were really awkward and painful at times. But the car segments were great, and that's what we really came for after all.
 
Man I can't believe the hate for Skinner. Dude is a real race car driver and its a different take from the standard f1 driver.

Its not like he hasn't raced on road courses before.

They could have gotten a Supercars driver from Australia.

He got the hate not because he isn't a true racing driver (as in, you know, the ones who have to break and steer once in a while), it's just because of his stupid comments during his lap.
Was a liiittle fun the first time, boring the 2nd time, annoying the 3rd time, and once he came to the first corner (which he managed w/o crashing into a wall or into others!) I wished The Stig was back or someone put at least some duct tape on his mouth.
 
He got the hate not because he isn't a true racing driver (as in, you know, the ones who have to break and steer once in a while), it's just because of his stupid comments during his lap.
Was a liiittle fun the first time, boring the 2nd time, annoying the 3rd time, and once he came to the first corner (which he managed w/o crashing into a wall or into others!) I wished The Stig was back or someone put at least some duct tape on his mouth.

Yeah, a lot of the humor really fell flat for me. The canned studio laughter didn't help things either.

Rest of it looked very slick though.
 

Fitts

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Solid first episode. Glad they're not messing with a winning formula much.

Hoping that this is their way of saying that they're done with celebrity guests. I can probably count the number of Top Gear celebrity interviews I genuinely enjoy on one hand and, in repeat episode viewings, I skip over those segments entirely.
 

Kathian

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I thought it was ok. The clips were great but the studio stuff I would have edited right down.

The American guy was just there this week right?
 

thenexus6

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Ehh, I should preface by saying I don't like Top Gear or any of the three guys really. I used to watch it when I was in school (2004/5 era)

Unfortunately like the new Top Gear they basically just kept the exact same format and haven't done anything new. The jokes, quips and everything just aren't funny to me. That Nascar guy in the M2 was painful to watch.

Its a shame because the camera work is still great, music is still great and I enjoy watching cool cars driving around. I might just watch it every now and then when a car I like is featured like the NSX from the montage at the start.

Also some parts dragged on so much, and the editing wasn't great in places.
 

s_mirage

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I thought this was excellent. The celebrity bit had me in stitches, and it was basically just Top Gear with perhaps higher production values. The only thing it missed was The Stig, but that was obviously unavoidable.
 

Noobcraft

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I hope The American isn't a regular thing. That sucked.
It would be kind of neat to have a little bit of genuine feedback from him as he goes around.

I looked at this first episode as sort of a burying the hatchet moment for the crew. Hopefully next week they reign it in a bit and deliver a more natural show.
 

Tbf the whole taking the stage thing at the start seemed incredibly overwrought to me as well. They were being received as heroes all because one of 'em was a dickhead and punched a guy.

Still, that punch might've been a great move in the long run. Their last couple series of Top Gear were on the decline, and Amazon seems to have injected a bit of new life into them. First episode felt like a return to form.
 

Podge293

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I thought it was ok. The clips were great but the studio stuff I would have edited right down.

The American guy was just there this week right?

That was my guess aswell. Didn't they release a video of another "stig" in the build up to the show.

I'm guessing they'll have an "African" driver next week and so on and so forth

Aswell as the starting sequence. I assume that changes per location.
 

Spinoff90

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Yeah that was from their live tour. I would think The American is permanent. Would defeat the purpose of comparing lap times of cars if the driver is constantly changing.
 

Ullus

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Great first episode, never been a fan of the studio parts, and that continues to be the case.

Beautifully filmed as always. Looking forward to the next one.
 

Gigarator

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I expect the American stig has already recorded all his segments for the series since the track is UK based, I doubt he'd want to stay there 12 weeks just to do that when they could have it all in the bag in an afternoon so I think he's here to stay.

I'd like to be proven wrong though.
 

gngf123

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I expect the American stig has already recorded all his segments for the series since the track is UK based, I doubt he'd want to stay there 12 weeks just to do that when they could have it all in the bag in an afternoon so I think he's here to stay.

I'd like to be proven wrong though.

Well the idea behind the times was that everything would be the same except for the car, so the driver will need to be the same too. He is here to stay.

I'm just hoping they see the feedback and cut out the few lines a week he speaks.
 
Just got round to watching it this afternoon and really enjoyed it. I like the new format and the banter was good. I felt Top Gear needed a bit of a refresh and the move to Amazon seems to have energized them a bit. If this is an indication of what's to come, it'll be a good series.
 
The intro was pretty over the top and felt a bit Americanised, but I still enjoyed it. There was another part in the 'coming soon' segment that gave me Mad Max vibes too.
 

Arials

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With "The American" I suspect the lawyers have told them they can't have another silent driver because the BBC lawyers would pounce on it.

Also, when Clarkson said that Amazon insisted that they have an American that rang true to me. There was no joke there or anything when he said that. Like how the BBC hired Ross from Friends (or whoever it was) for their new Top Gear to try and sell it in the US, Amazon execs probably think having that extra guy being American will make it more appealing to the big US audience. Of course Amazon would probably rather the character they insisted on held his own rather than being a one dimensional stereotype who has the piss taken out of him by the others, but part of the reason the Stig worked so well is there's so little scope for a personality to come out when all you're doing is the timed lap segment.
 
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